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  1. The pictures I promised: http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Topic=2&ID_Community=MyTimeMachine
  2. ((For instance, he has stated that his society is not involved in space travel. He's also stated that the temperature in and around his device while in use is approximately 100 degrees (approx 375 kelvin). )) I’m not sure I understand the connection between no space travel and the temperature around the device. ((If the Hawking Radiation of a black hole stated in Kelvins is…)) The singularities are not unstable; therefore, uncontrolled evaporation is not possible. In addition, there is no extemporaneous matter near the singularity that would cause it to give off radiation or heat. ((Or - he's taken a slice of the Earth about 1.2 miles wide at the equator from pole to pole down to the center of the Earth and compressed it into a singularity. And his machine has two of them, GE has a larger unit (C206) and there are multiple machines of each model (C204 & C206). )) A singularity about the size of an electron would only require the mass of a large mountain. The singularities inside the C204 are much small than that. And no, I didn’t make them. ((If his society doesn't space travel - then they are gobbling up the Earth to make their singularities.)) You know… E = MC squared can be written to solve for mass too.
  3. Dear Fellow Time Travelers: In about 30 days, I will be leaving this worldline to return home to 2036. I first want to say thank you for the wonderful conversation and insight into your society. I have learned a great deal and my opinion on quite a few things has changed dramatically. I will finish the questions that have been posted on this site up to this date. Unfortunately, I must now spend my spare time preparing to leave and I will not be on the computer very much. I do however want to repeat my offer and add a slight twist. After going over my flight plan home, I have discovered my VGL holdover period is a bit longer than I expected. I will be spending at least three weeks in April of 1998 as I make my way back to 1975. Therefore, I not only offer you the chance to leave a message to yourself in 2036 but I offer you the chance to leave yourself a message in 1998. I will take any compiled messages and email addressees you provide and send them on the net when I get to 1998. Granted, this will not affect you on your worldline now but you make take some comfort that another “you” on another worldline has the advantage of knowing something you wish you knew three years ago. Based on the earlier questions I’ve seen, I’ve decided a day-to-day record of the Dow a day in advance should convince you that the messages are real in 1998. In addition, I am hopeful a series of photocopies and photographs will be available for you that may give you more insight into the technology of the distortion unit. I will let you know the address of the site when it is available. I also plan to have my parents videotape my departure. If they succeed, it will also be posted after I leave. I look forward to these last few weeks with my family and I will check in periodically to check this site. Live in Peace 2001,
  4. ((Your argument as to my point was not sufficient. You suggested that an alternate you would most likely return to your world line. It just does not seem logical for one to go back in time on a mission for their world line only to return to an alternate worldline where the mission goal may or may not have bearing if completed. By the way, the Kerr ring singularity is a spacetime possessing CLOSED timelike curves. You would clearly need a naked singularity so that the chronology violating region would not be hidden behind the event horizon.)) As you are aware, approaching a rotating singularity can be done quite easily without experiencing the negative side effects of a massive gravitational field and it’s very possible to “pass” through the center of the ring. Besides, if you did need a naked singularity, all you would have to do is increase the rotation or electric charge so the inner even horizon equals the diameter of the outer event horizon. I realize my posts here have become tiresome and my “story” is old so If I don’t post it’s not because I don’t enjoy the physics debate. If you’re interested, I will be posting more pages from the manual and a cut-a-way drawing of the distortion unit.
  5. ((The fact that he added that he could not complete a 0 divergent trip meant that he could not return to his timeline and hence a mission into the past to help his people was logically flawed. In fact, since I posted that, his postings have been infrequent and sparse.)) I thought we went over that to your satisfaction? Doesn't everyone know after looking at a Perrose for a Kerr singularity that you have to travel faster than light to get to the "exact" same worldline? I can see your not amused that we would be confused as the same person. I did find it flattering. I think you find some of the physics questions we're dealing with on other sites quite interesting...perhaps even convincing.
  6. Good luck with your film. I will be happy to let you know. Until then...
  7. ((Time Travel_0 thanks for your reply. Can you please clarify some of these points?)) It’s what I live for although I can’t help but feel you’re not exactly asking these questions for their own sake. ((Describe what you mean by functional. After all, what are the functions assigned to clothes rather than protection from environment. Do you wear light colors, dark colors, loose, tight fitting? What materials are used for the clothing?)) Seems a bit obscure to have a discssion about. Do we wear radiation suits? No. Do we use pockets a lot, Yes. ((How does this smoke and haze allow for solar cells to be efficient?)) Do you have any idea how effiient solar cells are today? Sometimes it’s sunny and sometimes it rains. Sometimes large dust clouds high in the atmosphere pass overhead. I don’t understasnd the point you want to make. The sun looks the same. ((Where did you learn to write and how old were you? How long did it take you? Did you learn before, during, or after the fighting. What do you attrubute to your learning to type fast?)) I was home schooled and I spend a lot of time typing. ((((Gosub / Return. In one form or another, isn’t that a pretty standard function in most computer languages?)) No. )) I beg to differ on this point. I may not be a computer programmer but I do know that going away to preform one function and returning to the original function is basic to all software. Perhaps it may be called something else in various languages. ((Did you have a historical consultant or advisor to help you?)) No, fairly easy job. ((What do you call these batteries?)) Good and bad…same as you. (((A Rubix cube as in the toy, right?)) Rubix cube a toy. Where'd you get that idea?)) I’ve seen reffrences to them in various science papers. If I’m mistaken, what are you referring to?
  8. ((1.) What weapons did you use to protect yourself throughout your life? Do you have a weapon with you now, just in case?)) I used a shotgun in the war. Yes, I think it’s prudent to be prepared for anything. ((2.) What is your favourite food? (whether you had access to it or not)) Oranges, I love them. ((3.) Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?)) The President or “leader” in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base. ((4.) While you were in the 1970's what did you think of Nixon as President?)) To tell you the truth, I was more fascinated by the different standards Presidents are held to. ((5.) Do you plan to do any more time traveling when you return to 2036? )) I don’t know if I will be chosen for a another mission. If I do, most likely, I will fly as an advisor or historical consultant. ((6.) Do you have any doubts about this time travel experience and the computer mission that you are on? )) Absolutely. I have to believe there is an easier way to do this. ((7.) What have you leered the most from the people of this board? )) There is a fire of intelligence and expression out there in the people who are criticized for their open-mindedness. I fear it will only be uncovered in the rest of the population through conflict. I was under the impression that most people were sleeping in this period but I suppose that generalization is too broad for any time period. ((8.) Where did you learn the use of "Gosub" and which computer language? )) Gosub / Return. In one form or another, isn’t that a pretty standard function in most computer languages? ((9.) Where did you learn to write perfect English? How much time did it take? )) I’m not so sure I write perfect English. I do read a great deal more than I see most people doing here. ((10.) Was China your enemy? )) Not my enemy? I never fought any Chinese but their ability to hit Western cities with missiles made a lot of people unhappy. ((11.) Do they have Pac Man or Donkey Kong in 2036? )) I am aware they are video games but I have not come across them. ((12.) Does China have a manned space program between 2001 and 2036? )) I believe they are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It shouldn’t surprise you if they do that soon. ((13.) Do you have any problems with the number thirteen? )) Not personally. ((14.) If the worldlines are changed by everyone's choices, this means we are all manevering through timelines as we make these choices. Since everyone is making different choices, why do we still meet people that coincide with our previous worldline? )) Your worldline takes form as the choices unfold. People do not disappear because you must follow the same physical laws that hold you here. (i.e. Information cannot travel faster than light on a worldline.) ((15.) In your opinion, would timelines be better represented as an inflated balloon, or a layered Rubix cube with interchanging and overlapping interactions? )) Balloon in balloon in balloon. A Rubix cube as in the toy, right? ((16.) Does your group have a television in 2036? )) Information does arrive on video but cathode ray tubes are out and crystal or plasm is in. Distribution is over the net, not broadcast. ((17.) Does your group have a flashlight in 2036? If so, what type of batteries does it use? )) Yes, we have flashlights and we use similar batteries for most things. We do recharge a great deal. Have you ever seen those wind-up radios? They’re pretty interesting I think. ((18.) How is electricity generated in 2036? )) “Most” publicly generated power is through very efficient solar cells. On a local or household level, there is steam, hydro and inversion generation. There is a debate on using a singularity to generate power. ((19.) Does the sun look any different in 2036 than it does now? )) When you can see it through the high level smoke and haze, not that I’m aware of. ((20.) What sort of clothing do you wear in 2036? Is there strong attention paid to what people wear in the group? )) Clothing is much more functional. I’m not sure what group you’re talking about. ((21.) Where were you born? )) I was born in Florida. ((I'm sorry that the list is so long, but I hope that you will enjoy answering them, and we will all learn from them. )) No Problem. ((TimeTravel_0 if you have any more questions you would like to know about us, please post them. )) Thanks. TTA...I promise to get to your questions. I just hope you aren't too dissapointed when you don't get the answeres you want. I wonder if you're change in attirude is in prelude to your well crafted literary trap? Do you think I'll fall in?
  9. TTA...I just want to make sure of one thing, you don't like me very much do you? I promise to try and be more insulting. Actually, it's sort of a good feeling knowing you're out there keeping me honest. Thanks.
  10. Greetings everyone! I’ve missed you all too. As I’m sure Pamela can tell you, my email system is made up of quite a few addresses, locations and computers. Some of them work better than others and for a period of time, I have been unable (in my own way) to get to this site. It appears I’ve come back at just the right moment. I see you’re all asking yourselves questions about who I really am, what I want and why I’m here. Frankly, I really can’t blame you but perhaps it’s a bit easier now to understand why I not only didn’t expect you to believe me but I didn’t want you to. As far as my credibility, I thought we had reached some sort of happy medium and we could call each other friend. I see however that may not be the case and I must admit I’m a bit disappointed. It seems that unless I follow your expectations of what a time traveler should be doing thinking or feeling than I must be a fraud. Or is it just safer to keep telling yourself that? ((im not paranoid(not too paranoid) but i think it was a terrible idea for TT0(if his story is true) to have told us anything about it.)) Where was this setiment and concern for my safety as I was telling my “story”? ((TT_0 was always saying he has nothing to prove to us..then WHY..WHY come to a TIME TRAVEL forum(and numerous others) to spout off your achievements..)) Is it really that hard to believe that plain old human interaction has it’s own merits? ((I do not say this as a detriment to his words, (since I'm already on record as considering him to be a creative and intelligent person who has a lot to say philosophically), but merely that his declarations on being a time traveler are based on quantum theories that have already been clearly proven to NOT be so.)) Which quantum theories are you talking about? Please forgive me but If I missed a question or if there was something else to go into I would have been happy to do so. ((Either way, it sure would be interesting to hear what kinds of stories you’d share with us next. I know I’m anxious to hear them. How about you?)) TTA wants to hear more from me? Now there’s a turn of events. …and Borgus, I’m not even sure where to start. Please. Tell me how you really feel. In retrospect, you do force me to examine whether or not talking like this was a good idea. I still think it was.
  11. ((Are the Olympics still being played in your time?)) As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in in 2040. ((would it not be possible to use that recording to back track to your original starting point without any divergence at all? It seems that all it would take it is a couple lines of programming in the computer-controlled system)) Perhaps it’s better to say it’s so highly improbable as to be considered impossible. A good example is the concept of trying to get closer to something by cutting the distance in half for every step you take. Since the computer is basically making calculations from an imperfect model of reality, there are no absolutes. I also believe there is a theory that states you would have to violate the speed of light limit to have a perfect ZD. ((Have you ever read the book Six Nightmares by Anthony Lake? Why only two windows of opportunity for you to start your time machine? Would this have something to do with the weather?)) I haven’t read that book but I will try to find it if you recommend it. The weather isn’t a factor as much as gravitational tidal forces are at the point of arrival. ((You mentioned that the same goes for soldiers in our worldline. Yes, true. But do you not disaprove of war, just like me? I think it's immoral so I stand with my previous statement.)) I disapprove of murder. Man as a species is incapable of changing his nature through will alone and war is a tool of biology. The ability for war sleeps in each one of us and we must decide what we will do before the beast awakens. As for morality, again I point to the “universal” balance of good and evil. For every worldline where there is peace, there is a worldline that has destroyed itself. ((what's the use of bringing back an IBM 5100 to a slightly different worldline, knowing that there are just as many or even more worldlines in which no-one returns to bring back the IBM 5100. It sounds a bit like charity in favour of other worldlines.)) The decisions and actions we take as individuals can only help those who we have direct interaction with. I believe it is wrong to be capable of helping and do nothing. My struggle is in the irony that if everyone just “did nothing”, on every worldline, there would be no action and thus no immorality or evil (no good either). ((I'm very interested in your further comments on the greed of humanity during this time, and perhaps still in your time. You're unique perspective of humanity at this point (2001 and 2036) is valuable. Please share as much thoughts as you can.)) Please feel free to ask anything you like. ((Also, can you record a quick voice message for us before you leave?)) Yes. I am considering trying to videotape my departure and having my parents post it after I leave. That should keep you all busy for a while. ((having lived through the self destruction of the human race, what sort of future do you imagine after 2036? Will humans colonolize and expand through the solar system? Or will we be forever bound to our inward existance, measuring the past, fearfull of the future.)) Keep in mind that not all humans were destroyed but we were all affected. There is a effort going into colonizing space because it is believed that the problems of overpopulation were a large cause of the war. Personally, my generation sees itself as having a duty to try and repair the mess our fathers handed to us. When we were young, most of us had a small taste of the world you live in now and our only dream is to clean it up and give it back to those still able to have children.
  12. TTA, there must be... at least one thing you like about me.
  13. One of the reasons I like this board so much is that the questions are more thought out, the people seem to be a bit smarter than normal and I’m not continually bombarded with questions about stock tips. I will admit that on a conceptual level, you are picking it up much faster than I did. (If you leave your worldline, some of your friends and family members will never see you again on that worldline. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be a very immoral thing to do.) I’m not sure why you think it would be immoral. Don’t soldiers today go on duties they may not return from? It depends on how you define what the real “me” is. If you consider the mirror example again, as all of the “mes” step one room to the right, the family and friends in that room (and the time traveler for that matter) would not be able to tell the difference. The probability of us noticing a difference is based on the divergence of the trip. If all events and outcomes are certain, there are worldlines where I do return for every worldline I don’t return to. All the “moral” events would then balance out to zero. Again, it’s hard to judge good and bad outcomes…only good and bad decisions. ((Besides what's the point of fixing the Unix problem if there's an infinite number of worldlines where this problem doesn't even exist or has been fixed. After all your own worldline doesn't get the IBM 5100 anyway, so the people that sent you on this mission are still having that problem.)) Our actions and decisions are based on the knowledge we have in our own worldline. Yes, the bell shaped curve is a useful tool but if we are capable of change for the better than we feel we should at least try. Even if “I” don’t return to my exact worldline, a similar “me” probably will. Besides, I just look at it as helping a worldline where their time traveling me didn’t show up but I did. ((Also, you stated that "to the people on your worldline you'd only be gone for a split second". This can't be true, because to them you'll go away and never return.)) Again, I refer to the mirror example. ((Oh, I seem to have missed another statement by Trott saying that another "Timetravel_0" will return to the worldline, but that sounds virtually impossible!)) I’m not sure I said another time traveler “will” return, I think I said they “could” return. The location/gravity “map” I have of my path getting here could be duplicated with a fairly high degree of accuracy. It’s just that my machine was not designed to do that. I think it’s a mistake to rely on the concept of the impossible when dealing with the reality of multiple worlds. Keep in mind there are an infinite number of “yous” on infinite worldlines having completely different experiences with “me”. ((Timetravel_0 stated clearly that returning to your own worldline is thought to be impossible.)) …my “exact” ZD worldline that is.
  14. I missed you to TTA. ((And you never showed us a picture of your machine or your uniform.)) Actually, there are numerous places I have posted pictures. I believe the links are still on the board. ((why haven’t you commented on what you said about not caring about your worldline? I know someone made the mistake of answering for you, but I don’t think that will happen again.)) I’m not sure what you’re asking. I think those statements speak for themselves and your interpretation of them may be… unique.
  15. ((where does it say it is limited to 11 pages though...I don't see it.??....wait a minute...you are not looking at the third open folder at the top of the page are you? ....YOU posted that! hehehe)) I was just trying to be clever. However, I am still unable to see any postings past 412. Can everyone else see them?
  16. ((So, it would seem to me that your "mission" to go back in time to help your society in the future seems rather illogical, because in fact you can not help them without the ability to make, what you termed a "ZD", a zero divergence trip.)) The reality of infinite possibilities is rather difficult to get a grip on and if it were not for the math, I would delegate it to the realm of religion. I like to think of it as standing in a room with mirrors on all the walls. I can look to my right and left and see many “mes” all doing exactly the same thing. If we all took a step to our right and passed through a dimensional doorway to the next mirrored room, it would be very difficult to tell if anything had changed. In that sense, there are an infinite number of worldlines waiting for me to return with the computer. If I can get to one of them, I have completed my mission. ((Similarly, a TT_0 ("not ours") will return from a worldline similar to our own to "our TT_0's" worldline and be such a perfect doppleganger that the "originating" worldline recieves the IBM, and his Mom never knows the difference.)) Bingo!! Seems like something they would do a lot of psychological testing for before they sent us off.
  17. I now see it plainly states the topics are limited to 11 pages. I guess this only proves I'm not the brightest singularity in multidimensional spacetime.
  18. Greetings everyone. I’ve been away for a while so I apologize for not getting back to these questions sooner. Since Trott brought up a few things I had addressed in the mysterious mail that never made it to the board…I will post it here. The others are responses from other questions. ((First, where does your interest in the (our) U.S. Constitution stem from? Why do you think it is so vital for us to read and understand it?)) After the war, the United States had split into five separate regions based on the various factors and military objectives they each had. There was a great deal of anger directed toward the Federal government and a revival of states rights was becoming paramount. However, in their attempt to create an economic form of government, the political and military leaders at the time decided to hold one last Constitutional Congress in order to present a psychological cohesion from the old system. During this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible. The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it. ((Second, do you not like your "new" Constitution? Or feel that it is not as effective as the original?)) From my viewpoint, it’s very effective. I am a very strong believer in local or state’s rights. ((Third, you keep saying that you will be going back to your worldline soon, how soon will this be?)) There are certain windows I must wait for in order to leave. There will be two this year. The first one opens this spring. ((Is it physically possible for you to get back to THIS time line once you leave?)) Not with the machine I have now. ((If all 7 Billion of us here each had our own time machine do you think that would we would end up trashing the rest of the local worldlines?)) Since everything is already happening and possible on different worldlines, the answer is yes….and no. ((Correct me if I'm wrong here but I see you as a Libertarian who expounds on the need for humanity to get back to certain basics. Like the issues defined by the Constitution and your comments earlier on firearms tend to make me believe you are a Gun Rights activist.)) I suppose from your vantage point that’s a fair assessment. I would call myself more of a centrist. Although I understand the “gun rights” issue here, I cannot relate to it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother. I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she’ll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn’t help. If it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn’t trying to kill me. ((could you give us your thoughts on how us "less enlightened" ones here in this worldline of the here/now can solve the technical problems of time travel so that we may be able to enjoy the same first hand knowledge you have that gives you these social insights?)) When you say “us”, what do you mean? Do you mean “you”? Where would you go if you had my machine? How do you think the rest of the world would react to the U.S. having a time machine and they didn’t? ((You said that you traveled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable.)) Yes, a “ZD” is thought to be impossible. However, consider that an exact entry point “may” not be necessary to get home. The important factor is the path, not the destination. Under multiple world theory, there are an infinite number of “homes” that I could return to that don’t have me there. The divergence for that window is somewhere near .0002377%. ((Someone correct me where I'm wrong here but as I understand it, these Parallel Universes or Alternative Timelines are "created" by events in our own, (timelines) or even in others.)) Parallel universes exist independently of each other and only interact to avoid the collapse of the wave function for any given particle or event that you are looking at. I like to imagine it as a series of parallel lines crossed by a wavy wave. Each point on the wavy line where a straight line crosses it represents an alternate outcome. The multiple “yous” on each worldline record a different result for the activity of the particle. ((Actually, in science, "Multiverse" theory is something that has NEVER been proven. For lack of evidence. It crops up from time to time as a way to explain certain SEEMING paradoxes like the EPR double slit experiment with polarized light. But then, just because it can be used to explain something doesn't mean it is so.)) I agree with you that an explanation doesn’t make it so. However you can build a model to describe physical behavior. Even if the model is not complete, its “truth” can be measured by how well it predicts the behavior it describes. ((So help me here. Where did multiverse come from as a theory? Where is the observable evidence of it's existence and the experiments to back it up that can be duplicated with certainty and repitition?)) I believe the closest non-related evidence for multiple universes right now comes from the physics (derived from special relativity) of rotating (Kerr) black holes. If you examine a typical Penrose map, science agrees that you can travel to “other universes” through these cosmic oddities. They can’t be different places in your own universe (worldline) because you would have to violate the speed of light limit to get there. Since the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint, please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in 2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring and exist simultaneously, it would mean there are multiple universes out there where “you” are living a day behind and a day ahead of the “you” on this universe. There are some who believe that memory is some sort of information transfer or communication with the “yous” in the past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, than physics tells us that the same information transfer from our future selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain. Could it be that fantasy or “what if” scenarios are actually future memory from an alternate “us” on a future worldline? According to physics, there is no reason why this cannot be true although I probably fall a little closer to DiViper’s feelings about this as he does on multiple universes.
  19. After trying to post a couple of times and seeing the number of postings increase but not the pages...I assume it is limited to 11 pages. Any thoughts?
  20. Greetings everyone. I’ve been a way for a while so I apologize for not getting back to these questions sooner. ((First, where does your interest in the (our) U.S. Constitution stem from? Why do you think it is so vital for us to read and understand it?)) After the war, the United States had split into five separate regions based on the various factors and military objectives they each had. There was a great deal of anger directed toward the Federal government and a revival of states rights was becoming paramount. However, in their attempt to create an economic form of government, the political and military leaders at the time decided to hold one last Constitutional Congress in order to present a psychological cohesion from the old system. During this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible. The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it. ((Second, do you not like your "new" Constitution? Or feel that it is not as effective as the original?)) From my viewpoint, it’s very effective. I am a very strong believer in local or state’s rights. ((Third, you keep saying that you will be going back to your worldline soon, how soon will this be?)) There are certain windows I must wait for in order to leave. There will be two this year. The first one opens this spring. ((Is it physically possible for you to get back to THIS time line once you leave?)) Not with the unit I have. ((If all 7 Billion of us here each had our own time machine do you think that would we would end up trashing the rest of the local worldlines?)) Since everything is already happening and possible on different worldlines, the answer is yes….and no. ((Correct me if I'm wrong here but I see you as a Libertarian who expounds on the need for humanity to get back to certain basics. Like the issues defined by the Constitution and your comments earlier on firearms tend to make me believe you are a Gun Rights activist.)) I suppose from your vantage point that’s a fair assessment. I would call myself more of a centrist. Although I understand the “gun rights” issue here, I cannot relate to it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother. I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she’ll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn’t help. If it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn’t trying to kill me. ((could you give us your thoughts on how us "less enlightened" ones here in this worldline of the here/now can solve the technical problems of time travel so that we may be able to enjoy the same first hand knowledge you have that gives you these social insights?)) When you say “us”, what do you mean? Do you mean “you”? Where would you go if you had my machine? How do you think the rest of the world would react to the U.S. having a time machine and they didn’t? To tell you the truth, I more worried about the computer system than I am the distrotion unit. ((You said that you traveled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable.)) Yes, a “ZD” is thought to be impossible. However, consider that an exact entry point “may” not be necessary to get home. The important factor is the path, not the destination. Under multiple world theory, there are an infinite number of “homes” that I could return to that don’t have me there. The divergence for that window is somewhere near .002377%. ((Someone correct me where I'm wrong here but as I understand it, these Parallel Universes or Alternative Timelines are "created" by events in our own, (timelines) or even in others.)) Parallel universes exist independently of each other and only interact to avoid the collapse of the wave function for any given particle that you are looking at. I like to imagine it as a series of parallel lines crossed by a sine wave. Each point on the sine wave where a line crosses it represents an alternate outcome. The multiple “yous” on each worldline record a different result for the activity of the event. ((Actually, in science, "Multiverse" theory is something that has NEVER been proven. For lack of evidence. It crops up from time to time as a way to explain certain SEEMING paradoxes like the EPR double slit experiment with polarized light. But then, just because it can be used to explain something doesn't mean it is so.)) I agree with you that an explanation doesn’t make it so. However you can build a model to describe physical behavior. Even if the model is not complete, its “truth” can be measured by how well it predicts the behavior it describes. ((So help me here. Where did multiverse come from as a theory? Where is the observable evidence of it's existence and the experiments to back it up that can be duplicated with certainty and repitition?)) I believe the closest non-related evidence for multiple universes right now comes from the physics (derived from special relativity) of rotating (Kerr) black holes. If you examine a typical Penrose map, science agrees that you can travel to “other universes” through these cosmic oddities. They can’t be different places in our own universe because you would have to violate the speed of light limit to get there. Since the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint, please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in 2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring and exist simultaneously, it would mean there are multiple universes out there where “you” are living a day behind and a day ahead of the “you” on this universe. There are some who believe that memory is some sort of information transfer or communication with the “yous” in the past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, than physics tells us that the same information transfer from our future selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain. Could it be that fantasy or “what if” scenarios are actually future memory from an alternate “us” on a future worldline? According to physics, there is no reason why this cannot be true although I probably fall a little closer to DiViper’s feelings about this as he does on multiple universes.
  21. n the future, sociologists spend a great of time discussing the collective mentality before the war that led to the demise of “Homo Materia”. Many of them point to an experiment that was done in the 1970’s or 1980’s. The experiment isolated various sizes of rat populations in varying cage sizes with varying food and cleaning schedules. It was discovered that no matter what, there was a certain ratio of rats to space that once overtaken by population would always lead to aggressive and destructive behavior in the rats until enough of them had died or been killed to get back under the ratio. This was true even when the rats that were given plenty of food and had their cage cleaned every day. Besides the occasional school or office shooting and violent video game, I can’t help but think about that experiment every time I see someone stranded on the highway or walking on the side of the road carrying an empty gas can. I ask my parents why we don’t stop and help and they tell me they are afraid of being attacked and of the possible consequences of helping someone they don’t know. I would respond by pointing out that it’s our duty to help someone, not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because we can never know that person’s true worth and the risk of losing then is too great. I didn’t fully understand their stubbornness until I saw a news story about a doctor who was sued for applying emergency first aid to an accident victim who died. I believe your society is biologically geared for self-destruction. However, I feel strongly that does not excuse me from my responsibilities as a temporary member of this community. Although TTA is a bit quirky and eccentric, he does belong to us. He’s this community’s quirky and eccentric guy and although he can be aggravating, I can’t help but feel protective of him. As I’m sure most of us believe, under all of his postings, he has some interesting things to say. When I first read one of his postings, I first shake my head and then I begin to question my own understanding of not only the English language but of the real meaning of the odd things he brings up. If it’s done on purpose, it’s quite effective. I am often forced to go back through the dictionary or grammar handbook just to make sure there’s not some obscure punctuation or grammar rule I was unaware of. As an example, when I read his mission statement, I do think the effect of not writing a complete sentence before the period is dramatic but I am forced to examine the word “it’s” and wonder if it represents the contraction for “it is” or if it means the possessive of the understood subject from the first part. Please understand, I do not point this out to cause harm. People are often first judged by the way they write and speak. I can’t help but think a great deal of anger is a result of frustration to make ourselves understood. Throughout our lives, a real understanding of how to communicate would help anyone express themselves better. As I find myself double checking how to use the English language I only recommend that TTA do the same. I am quite anxious to his ideas or set of rules on the use of time travel.
  22. (( I know, that you have a hidden agenda. You have not made clear your motives, and are only giving us very little proof. Why you holding back...?)) Rest assured there is nothing I have planned in my “hidden agenda” that will make anyone’s life any worse than it already might be. ((Am I right, TT_0? You do alot of work in the background of our society, admit it. Adjusting things to fit your futures agenda. That's the only reason you can ever have an interest in the past.)) I plan to leave soon. There is nothing I can do here that will affect my home. My goals are based on the love I have for my family. Actually, my inertest in the past is a result of going through piles of half burned books and magazines left over from a war started by people you share this planet with right now. On that note, perhaps its more interesting to consider what I won’t be doing to try and stop that war. ((I wasn't trained to kill, like you were.)) ---> Well it's a good thing I got injured in the Army, or else that might have been my fate as well. <--- I could have sworn you mentioned you were in the army? ((What are your personal beliefs TT_0? You said you believe in God, which one? Honestly, do you think the ends justifies the means? Don't you have people regulating Time Travel?)) How many Gods are there? I believe in just one. What are your suggestions for regulating time? Perhaps a list of your “time rights” would be something to spark conversation on the board. ((You said your self you don't care what happens to your worldline. You don't care about your actions, and what they will affect?)) I’m not sure I ever said I didn’t care about my own worldline. If you could find and quote that, I would appreciate it. ((You are a cheater of life... What ever happened to preservering against adversity? You take back home the solution, without trying to handle it there. And in that, you threaten to change billions of lives. And that strikes you as no big deal?)) I think I understand what you’re asking. I’m just guessing that “cheater of life” is not a compliment. I can’t think of a reason why my actions would be immoral and someone else’s would not. You suggest I’m capable of changing lives. I suggest that I’m no more capable of that than you are. I’m just not so sure you recognize your own potential. You don’t need a time machine to save or destroy people. If there was another person doing the exact same things I was but they didn’t have a time machine, would they be putting billions of lives at stake and suffer your judgment? ((So is there any such thing as wrong for you TT_0 while in the past that you are forbidden to do, or is it all just a free for all?)) Yes, I believe in wrong and right. I judge my actions based on God’s law. Is it wrong for me to murder? Yes it is. Is it wrong for me to teach someone how to defend themselves and they commit murder? No, I am not their keeper. Since I am leaving, I will be incapable of causing any harm. But, what damage will you do with anything I have said? ((Yes, actually The Wheel of Time is a fantasy role playing game. Don't you have Final Fantasy XVIII out in 2036?)) Yes, we have games. ((TT_O shouldn't an historian-anthropolagist, even an amateur, be a bit more up to speed on psychology?)) I apologize. I am learning all the time and I wish I were smarter too. You must remember that reading about a society is one thing and being exposed to it is another. ((TT_0, care to answer my questions this time?I made sure to put lots of ??? so I wouldn't get excuses that they weren't any.)) I was not trying to offer excuses. Please forgive my ignorance. I was unaware that question marks were optional.
  23. RGRUNT: Thank you for considering the problem of returning home. You seem to have stumbled on an intuitive proof of some of the physics of time travel. You are correct, getting back to the worldline of origin is easier than picking an exact destination on a different worldline. I wrote down the graphic you outlined. If y1 starts perpendicular to x1 and x2 and is rotated, where is the center of rotation? I imagined it between x1 and x2. If this is so, wouldn't y1 end up parallel between x1 and x2 with each one being 6 inches away from y1 on either side? SHADOW: ((The artificial singularity you travel with, you say it forms a local gravity field. Does it physically reduce the size of nearby objects during operation? And if so by how much? )) Actually, there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways. Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities. Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities affects and alters the gravity sinusoid. The effects of the gravity produced by the unit do not have enough time to significantly alter physical objects within a reasonable distance from the outside of the sinusoid. No, things do not get smaller. ((If the electron injection system alters the shape of the field, would that not force the unit to accelerate through space as well as time?)) There is no relative movement in space due to three main factors. Large, kinetic energy inducing effects of the gravity field are compensated for by the interaction of the singularities. The mass of the unit and any objects inside the sinusoid do not exhibit any huge increases on the departure worldline during travel. The observed path of the traveler is obtained by changing the gravity, not by moving the vehicle. The black hole comes to you. ((The question is define "time")) To me, time has two definitions. I see time as a mathematical component of a 10 dimensional super universe. It is a variable I use to define my location and existence. I also see time as a metaphysical compromise our senses use to define the area of collective existence God has placed us in. When I can measure and sense time, I know I am not with God.
  24. In the post that follows, I’ve tried to answer the latest questions directed at me but I am hoping you all may be able to add some insight into something I’ve noticed. In our attempt to communicate here, some of the comments on this board have become increasingly hostile and negative. I see the same type of interaction when I watch news interview programs. The guise of productive interaction and communication is thwarted by illogical verbal attacks and misdirection. I understand why the news does it. They are trying to hold an audience by generating conflict. For a while, I thought that was the goal here too but it appears that anger and conflict is being created on this site to cause genuine harm and pain. Its hard for me to believe that this is being done on purpose so I have concluded I simply do not understand some hidden element of your collective social interaction. On the other hand, if its being done for no reason, I would understand a little better how people in this time could accomplish so much and yet be so vulnerable to their emotions and fears. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who believed that the only way to sway opinion was through calm, respectful, intelligent conversation. Weather I’m a time traveler or not, I suppose there are numerous ways to view my “story”. By the nature of the communication medium, I believe it’s impossible to prove therefore it’s impossible to believe. I agree that conversation spurs ideas. If I’m not a time a time traveler, than perhaps the seemingly disjointed statements I make will actually create the idea in one of you that leads to “real” time travel. ((What is a WORLDLINE?)) Individual worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects take through space-time under the laws of special relativity. They can be shown graphically on an x-y graph with x representing distance in space and y representing passing of time. In time travel talk, worldlines are used as a way to describe and separate the experiences of a time traveler because various laws of special relativity appear to breakdown and can’t be defined on a single worldline. Worldline has also become synonymous with "alternate universe" and / or "time line". ((I see you take things from this world to bring back to your own world. books, computers what have ya. as well as probably the other TT do as well. Do you pay for those items? or do you just "steal" them? what do you pay with if you pay?)) I pay for these items with money. Personally, I believe stealing is wrong. ((…could not a TT (time traveler)basically take whatever they wanted from any time?)) There are mass limits to what can be taken back. ((… do you have to take psychological tests before you are chosen? what attributes should a time traveler have in your opinion?)) Yes, there are numerous psychological tests. I was chosen based on my educational background and military service. The training lasted about two years. There is a great deal of physical training to counter the physical effects of distortion. They were also looking for drivers who had a fair amount of self-sufficiency and an ability to function under extreme isolation and confinement. ((What are some things they look for when they chose someone for a mission?)) Depending on the mission, time travelers are usually chosen for a particular mission based on their ability to gain the cooperation of someone related to the goal on the target worldline. In my case, my grandfather was directly involved with the building and programming of the 5100. ((If they pick a bad seed by mistake and send them time traveling and that person does harm is there anyway they can go after that person? I am curious about all of this.)) Interesting question. There is a difference of philosophy between us that should be clarified. Since I believe that all possible outcomes and events are possible, probable and certain, it is impossible to assign “goodness” or “badness” to a person or situation. On some other worldline, I am an insane time traveler causing destruction and death while TTA chases me with his band of devoted followers. However, on this one, I am not. Since both events are certain, their value is neutral. Therefore, you can only assign goodness and badness to the events and experiences you have direct control over or witness. Only actions are good and bad, not people or things. I suppose if I was a psychotic killer, I could accomplish my mission, avoid capture and still return to my worldline of origin without penalty. There would be no way for them to know what happened. However, I believe that action is wrong and I would be accountable to my God. ((Interesting, if you are from the future, you could tell us just exactly what IT is. Since no one will know for sure until probably 2002 according to news reports. The picture that I saw on ABCNEWs.com of what they thing IT is did not seem to impressive.)) I suppose this question is my own fault. As a time traveler, I am expected to know every winning horse and hot stock as well as the weather in all parts of the world at all times. I was genuinely interested in your opinion of how “IT” was being presented and advertised. Do you feel manipulated? Do you think it’s really a big deal? Do you like the way the news is dealing with it? ((…didnt TT_0 say in a previous post that we were looked down on by future generations, if he is from a "parellel timeline",how would he know this??)) This worldline and my own are almost exactly alike. ((How is this any different from TT_1 making claims and then sidestepping all attempts to get him to show verifiable evidence to back them up?)) Did you mean TT_0 or TT_1? ((They were about his intentions as a Time Traveler. Ethical, or not? Disregarding his own Time line by spilling the beans. Says alot, don't you think.)) How do you think my actions here affect my own worldline? ((P.S. You might be wondering why the new name. Well I got the idea for this name after playing this cool RPG game. "The Wheel of Time." Just thought I use a new name, as a change of pace.)) Is the “The Wheel of Time” one of those “fantasy” role-playing games you mentioned earlier?
  25. I don't believe I ever said I came back looking for a UNIX bug fix. I came back for a computer system. Don't you find UNIX usefull now? Temprature is about the same although there were anomalies after the war. Fast... if you are able to translate exactly what the questions are, I would be happy to try and answer. Just curious....what does everyone think of "IT"? (ginger)
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