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I am disappointed John. I know you would have seen these messages. I don't understand why you insist on hiding here during such a dangerous period in history. If it's to try to lend a hand then how much effect do you think you will have?

 

I will be back late on 20031122. I am sure you know what for. Please reconsider your position. I will access this site as soon as I arrive. Though it is harder than I expected due to the lack of wireless zones in this period and on this continent as I am sure you know.

 

To everyone else, I apologize for opening the "can of worms" (so to speak) with issues that have been raised while I was here. (Now you can see why I wasn't going to reply.) I will be back soon to answer and bring closure to as much as I can. I will also come back better equipped.

 

Charlie.

 

P.S. I won't be leaving a departure video because that is impossible for a number of reasons. One reason is the Kinetic energy produced by the distortion sphere alone will knock out any electrical device in close proximity externally. If John brought with him a VRU (which is not on his manifest) then he would have been able to record it for you.

 

 

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Charlie,

 

I asked this already, but I'm asking it again. It won't hurt you or anyone else to tell me the answer to this abstract question. Please tell us definitively what causes Mad Cow disease. John knew the answer, and so should you. Is it prions, pesticides or something else? Your refusal to answer this will clearly show us who and what you really are. That's a nice way of saying no one here will believe in you, or try to help you locate John. John was more than willing to tell us about things that we could do nothing about, and obviously knowing what causes this disease will help no one and it will change nothing, so let us in on it.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Mike

 

 

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Should I know you Mike?

 

I always figured we'd see packs of time-travelers appear around the time of great disasters. So what's coming up?

 

Mike, are you really in the Panhandle right now or are you just spoofing the IP? I'm less than an 8 hour drive away and I'd love to look at your machine. Which model are you flying?

 

 

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Charlie! I can help you stay away from Jacob. Lets see a prediction about 11/22/03 to validate your claims first. Florida Jim seems to be more on point then you bud. Let us know a prediction.

 

Do you watch recordings of x-files and st-tng or to you use a time machine to watch them on the original air dates?

 

 

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Wow, so how did you guys pinpoint me to the Panhandle & Crestview area?? :) I am working hard to somehow get involved in a Time Travel Project. Working on my Top Secret Clearance right now. Figure it couldn't hurt. Not sure what level it would take to get into that type of research & development.

 

Overall, I'm NOT a time traveler, wish I was. :)

 

 

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Wow, so how did you guys pinpoint me to the Panhandle & Crestview area?? I am working hard to somehow get involved in a Time Travel Project. Working on my Top Secret Clearance right now. Figure it couldn't hurt. Not sure what level it would take to get into that type of research & development.

 

Overall, I'm NOT a time traveler, wish I was.

 

ohhh sure you are?? hahahahhah I am a what???? are you fool?? no forgive me he och yuck!!!

 

hehehhehehehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

so how was a top secret Clearance!!! work for skull and bones?? or thule secret society?? well that evil and that evil and that a crap to me forgive me...

 

bang bang boom yuck... :devil:

 

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

 

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To John, Florida Jim, and the rest of the Time Travelers

 

My name is Davy Crockett. many of you thought I died defending the Alamo, but what really happened was this. John Titor came to me in his time machine and rescued me. He brought me to the year 2036 and took me to this new state of the art medical institute in Nepal. The sherpas were very nice to me. At first I didn't think it was real, but John was like "believe it buddy". I know ya'll believe me, but to prove my sanity to those few disbelievers I am going to predict a future event. On Saturday November 29, 2003 The Florida Gators will beat Florida State. Believe it. I will soon come back to your world and share with you the secret ways to defeat the northern army in the next civil war.

 

One of the secrets being that we now know how to clone people. Famous generals such as Jackson, Lee, and Patton are cloned and pledged to fight for the mighty Confederate army.

 

That is all the time I have for now.

 

Florida Jim, I see a new baby in your future. You need to propose to your boyfriend because you don't want to have that baby girl out of wedlock. And Charlie I don't get why you even come to this board. Your lack of time travel knowledge is a disgrace to this message board. I don't like you. You think youre so smart, but its really you just putting on a show to make up for your lack of manhood in your pants.

 

 

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I will be back late on 20031122. I am sure you know what for.

Someone on another forum mentioned a feeling of dread he's been having lately, like something is about to happen. He suggested that any attack on the U.S. would probably be symbolic, like 9/11 was. He also suggested that November 22 would have such symbology. It's the 40th anniversary of Kennedy's assassination.

 

Time-traveling tourists from the future, seeking out 'thrills' by witnessing history's biggest tragedies seems as inevitable as 'gaper delay' from rush hour traffic accidents.

 

 

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If there is something going down on the 22nd, it would be great if one of these timetravelors could warn us so we could change this timeline. Remember when that dude from "Honey i shunk the kids" and "taken" came on star trek TNG and claimed to be from the futre, there to see a historical event? it turns out he was from the past and had stolen a futre time travelors craft. He was some kind of inventer and tried to take futreistic thiings like data back with him to "invent". If there is an impendening crisis then we should be able to see it as well. For example look at all the clues we had about 9/11:

 

The Secret News : >9/11 timelines

 

 

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John,

 

I am back. I am on the same continent as before. I hope you have reconsidered everything and are ready to make contact. I will be here for at least two weeks which gives you are much greater window.

 

I am currently accessing local weather information to assist my computer readings to allow me to find the best observating area for the eclipse. Once I have pin pointed a location I will give you the coordinates. I will be at the place for some time compiling data after the eclipse which should allow you time to reach me.

 

Please understand John, your safe return is now a secondary objective. Not even. If you choose to stay here to be of help then all we can do is wish you luck. Personally John, after spending a few days here and studying this society, I can understand if you choose to stay but I don't agree with it. It is far too dangerous. Meet me and I will tell you what I found when I had the planet scanned for you in 2039 using the electronic implant in your arm as the target. There must be something or someone really special for you to decide to remain here.

 

I will post my observation coordinates soon.

 

Charlie.

 

To other forum observers:- Please understand that I do not have to prove who i am to you. It makes no difference to me whether you accept what I say or reject it. There will be those of you who can FEEL and therefore understand what I am saying. Then there are those who will reject what I am saying no matter what I say, just simply to reject it. It is your choice and it doesn't need me to convince you to make it.

 

For those who have Private Messaged me, you will see that I gave constructive answers to constructive questions. To put your minds at rest, there is nothing significant about 20031122.

 

As most of the planet will be unable to view the eclipse, please try and keep tabs of what is reported on other forums.

 

See you soon.

 

Thank you.

 

 

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glugglug,

 

I stated "kinetic energy alone....." Meaning this is just one of many things. I am sure most of you would know the most common form of kinetic energy is friction caused by the rapid interaction of particles of different objects/surfaces etc etc. The primary field generated by the unit causes an energy discharge when it interacts with the surrounding atmosphere (friction). As with all forms of energy there are certain magnetic properties associated. This in conjunction with other factors will render any nearby electronic device from this time period useless.

 

Charlie

 

 

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Hi Jim,

 

The C300 GDT Disp. is a class 6 temporal device. The makes fitting the C300 to any sort of vehicle whether it is a hovercraft, road vehicle or any sort of transportation unit relatively simple compared to earlier models. Depending on the vehicle type, extensive modifications and shielding to the electronic systems needs to be carried out to be able to withstand various electro-magnetic and temporal energies.

 

Obviously, individual customization of the field parameters is needed depending on the dimensions of the vehicle.

 

Jim, in an earlier post you mentioned something about "radioactive" nature of our devices. As a micro fusion reactor is used to power the C204 and C300, no radioactivity should be detectable. I am also quite certain airports are not scanning for hydrogen isotopes in our luggage.

 

Seeing that John has started something here, I have been giving permission to comment more about this time and John's interaction with it. Also, a further insight as to why time travellers are converging here. I have also been authorized to correct some of John's "future" lesson that he gave while he was here. I have been given clearence to spend a maximum of one month in this time period. Although, I do not see myself being here beyond three weeks. I will provide as much information as I possible before I leave. I will write a new thread in this forum covering as much as I can and I will answer questions from that.

 

Before anybody retorts to this by saying things like, "what you do now significantly alters the future etc etc etc." Let me give you a crash course in simplified mechanics of time.

 

Time is linear because we make it so. We make it linear by what we observe here on Earth and the universe. Our clocks, tides and planet movements that are predictable etc. We interact with other people that have the same concepts.

 

The Universe is a mathematical equation that is perfect. Time is a factor in that equation and because it seems stable and never varies it gives the impression that it is fixed and cannot be altered. Obviously, this is incorrect.

 

Time travel is a confusing subject at the best of times but as your present day media protrays it, people travelling in the future and past, this is not possible when it comes to travelling into the future. On a linear time scale, the present time the universe has reached is December 27, 2039. One cannot travel into the distant future from that point (only in increments of a few hours at best) as the rope is still being woven. This is a totally different subject which requires much more explanation.

 

One can travel into the past though, as this is "road travelled" by the universe already. An endless rope stretching back toward infinity. It can be unwoven and rewoven. The past has been built and has grip knots in the rope or markers as such.

 

A term I am sure you are all aware is the Space/Time Continuum. This is a name for stating that matter and energy may be in a other place, or occupying different space, depending on the time. That matter/energy leaves a trail, which is the continuum, over time. Imagine making a rope and various strands are matter/energy and the rope itself in it's woven form is the continuum.

 

Think of time travellers appearing now at this "knot" in the rope (continuum) of time. By being here, we have altered a single strand, at best. Does this significantly effect the rope as a whole? No. There is an effect by it is extremely low. The reason for this is because not a single strand of time has a great effect of the whole. Strands are interweaving and crossover. Essentially, any small changes will be muted by the crossing over of this strand with another as the rope continues.

 

An example might help. (Please don't take this example as a warning!! It is only an example) Just say, I know one of the buildings in a major city that will colapse due to a minor build defect in the materials used. If I arrive at the point in time before the first foundation is layed and change the material used, the building will be okay. But say I arrive after the first foundation is layed and then change the material, it would essential mean that I did make a change affecting that strand onwards but since the strand of that building had already started down a different path, over a greater period of time, it would mute my change.

 

This is the most simplistic way that I could explain it.

 

I must run now. I will be back soon.

 

Charlie

 

 

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Ok, Charlie here we go…

 

The 'believe me or don't, it doesn't matter' line is clearly a cop-out. If this is the best 'protocol' the future can come up with, I'm not very optimistic regarding the intelligence of those in charge of the most powerful weapon since the hydrogen bomb. Anything said after that disclaimer is suspect in its motivation at best.

 

Don't beat around the bush. Tell us what you're here to observe about the eclipse. What makes it an especially historical event? If you can tell us that, even just a day in advance, you'll face less skepticism and more positive interaction from this forum. I'm sure the value of trust from the 'locals' (to some degree anyway) would be worthwhile, especially considering your course on how little you can alter this 'strand' in the first place.

 

 

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Jim,

 

What do you wish me to say? Making up your own mind is one thing. I, myself making it up for you is different. I can provide you with extensive historical data on various aspect of the near future. What we know for sure happens and in what sequence. Time will pass and those events will happen as I stated and you would say, "Wow! He was from the future." I will not be here for those events so your conclusion as to whether am I real or not would be history to me.

 

What I am saying to you is simply one of the corner stone philosophies of my society. Choice. You may think that is what you enjoy now, but you don't. Current society structure is not as free as you may think. You are given limited control of your own choices but on the grand scale the choices are being made for you.

 

The truth is that we have limited understanding and knowledge of society pre 2005. John described in loose detail the wars internally in the United States and externally against the United States. One of the prime reasonings behind the external war was because of the lack of freedom in choice given by the United States Government to the people of Earth. I don't like calling the internal war a civil one. But rather a peoples upraising against a corrupt self-appointed government that put the interests of itself in front of the people. I believe this is the reason why John wants to stay.

 

As I have stated I am willing to provide limited data on what we know about this time. We are still learning ourselves. The eclipse has yet to be documented by us. Some of what we know is that anomolies were detected during the eclipse. I am here to document first hand those anomolies and the actions (no-actions) of JPL and NASA and what is reported through main stream media.

 

Jim. That is all I can tell you. I am truly sorry if it is not enough. Deep down I know if I devulge it all, it won't really change anything. The choice has already been made for you all. But I have orders that I must follow.

 

If it means anything, I believe John under-reported how close humanity is in the future. We are one global community which has learned from it's mistakes. We are one species, one family.

 

Charlie.

 

 

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Despite a lack of evidence, I'll continue to converse with you as if you are a historian from 2039. Though I think it would be a simple matter for you to confirm that as fact and therefore open a less skeptically hindered discussion, I leave that choice to you.

 

I think you underestimate our awareness of reality in this time. Although most are reticent, if you pressed the average American with the facts on freedom and choice, most would admit that we are not in control of our destiny. Those with the power haven't exactly been subtle in wielding it. The rest of the world has also been justifiably upset by the heavy-handed tactics of those with power and money, not to mention a perceived apathy of the American people to their dilemma. If a time-traveler from the future can have so little impact on this world's direction, imagine how much less effect a native of this time has when it's a struggle just to feed your family and pay the bills as an economic hostage of the elite.

 

We are in the first stage of grief (as defined by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross) – denial. Death has come to true liberty but we don't like to admit it. It sounds like what you and John are telling us is that we will progress through the other four stages - anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance – in the next several years.

 

I wouldn't be surprised that humanity pulls close together in a post-holocaust world. The senselessness of division over differences becomes self-evident when great tragedy befalls us. We saw a small sense of unity after September 11, 2001. Human nature quickly forgets though and the old evils rear their ugly heads quickly. Don't be surprised if the 'oneness' of 2039 sours in time.

 

 

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