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Rainman,

 

Another failed "prediction" is the reason that he suggested for going into Iraq.

 

Titor didn't say that we would go into Iraq because of WMD's. He posted on 02/25/2001 08:00 am:

 

Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?

He said that Iraq has nukes - and then asks if our "surprise" at discovering this information "now" is BS to justify a war, because we already knew they had them.

 

He missed that one entirely. He said that Iraq had nukes.

 

But over the years people have read other people's posts about this particular "prediction" without looking at what Titor himself wrote. They then pass on their "knowledge" of what was said as if it was the truth.

 

 

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Hi Darby,

 

ut over the years people have read other people's posts about this particular "prediction" without looking at what Titor himself wrote. They then pass on their "knowledge" of what was said as if it was the truth.

Yes, this is another good one where people continuously wish to "interpret" a different meaning from these words rather than accepting the literal meaning that is right there in the words.

This one is a bit more nefarious than the words "official Olympics" because the wording is quite clumsy, and likely this was on purpose. You can't really argue the fact that Titor used the words "official Olympics" and that we are at day 10 of the official winter Olympics in Torino. Yet people will endlessly argue "what Titor meant" with the Iraq nukes quote rather than just understanding what he actually said.

 

The "predictions" from Titor that are the most vague are the ones that seem to "live on" with those people who just want to believe. The predictions that history has clearly shown to be false (i.e. mad cow) people don't talk about much anymore.

 

RMT

 

 

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Rainman,

 

I think that I have to amend, slightly, my last post.

 

So far, Titor missed the prediction completely.

 

There's still the "tapes" where Hussein is talking to Aziz about the nukes, bios and chemical agents that they had (and apparently had the Spetznaz and GRU move to Syria) before we invaded.

 

So he might yet get that one correct.

 

But he had access to the same information that we all had in 2000-2001 while he was posting. It was being reported on the news, the UN and halls of Capitol Hill as a matter of fact: Iraq had a stockpile of NBC's.

 

The problem, the real problem, that we've always had with this quote is that it has been misquoted in subsequent posts. In those posts Titor's words are mis-represented to mean that he said that the reason for the war was "BS" because Iraq had no NBC's. The US government made it all up to justify the invasion.

 

There's simply no interpretation of his words, as he posted them, that indicates his belief about about Iraq's NBC's was any different than what was being reported at that time. He believed that Iraq had the weapons - the same as just about everyone else believed at the time.

 

 

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I agree that everything titor said could be extracted from the news available at the time his "predictions " were made. Most of the things that were said have been a topic of discussion before being posted here in TTI.

 

The Iraq Governmental figures did seem to spoof on alot of things they said, and perhaps they created an illusion that they had all those weapons thinking the world would be less likely to stop Saddam.

 

Realizing that we called their bluff, then they realized that perhaps it wasnt such a good idea, but by then it was too late.

 

I still remember the governmental figures of Iraq claiming that the U.S. was being repelled and was no where near the Capitol city, when you could see U.S. tanks rolling down the streets in the background.

 

 

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I still remember the governmental figures of Iraq claiming that the U.S. was being repelled and was no where near the Capitol city, when you could see U.S. tanks rolling down the streets in the background.

That was a hoot, wasn't it?

 

To me, this illustrates a lesson of physics with respect to Information. Namely, that the Information that someone is projecting to you (i.e. the Iraqi Information minister who was told to present these lies as truth) does not necessarily represent the truth of reality at any point in Space, at any given moment in Time.

 

The lesson within the lesson is that it is dubious to trust any single "channel" or measurement of information as a means to define "The Truth". The greater the number of independent information channels that can report on the subject matter, the higher the probability you will receive the "true" report of what actually happened.

 

It's all about Information. How you use Information holds sway over how Energy is expended to achieve certain ends.

 

What ends do WE wish to achieve? For my vote, I want to go on record that I do NOT wish to achieve the kind of future that Titor claimed would come to pass (and which has not, as yet, come to pass). Is anyone else with me on this vote? ;)

 

RMT

 

 

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100k killed,i believe that is the waterquake that generated the Tsunami which killed more than 100.000 people all over indonesia,thailand,sri lanka,etc.That event had occured,we are only still waiting for CERN public announcement about finding mini black holes,to me that would be much enough evidence that he was a real traveler,even thou till this day i have many doubts about his figure thanks to Darby and others who are very skeptical with this kind of subjects :),sorry Darby if i offended you! ;)

 

 

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Joel,

 

No offense taken.

 

Titor didn't predict a tsunami. In fact he didn't make a particular prediction at all. Here's the post:

 

Jan 29, 2001

 

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I get no pleasure out of being right when it comes to CJD disease, war in the Middle East or suffering people in far away lands. There's nothing like the look on someone's face when you tell them 100,000 people will be dead tomorrow.

Notice - there's no particular context. But it was a bit of a joke. The "people" that he was refering to were the members of the forum. And he was the person imagining the look on their faces as they bit on the hook (some actually swollowed the hook - no catch and release there.)

 

The answer to the question is that it would actually be somewhat surprising. The world's human death rate is just over 150,000 per day. Only 100,000 people dying represents a one day 33% drop in the death rate. Titor assumed that the look in the faces would be one of astonishment - such a high number, that 100,000 - while he was chuckling at them for not having a clue about how many people really die every day, day after day...you know...the normal and expected rate of 150,000.

 

Without a context who should be surprised except as stated above. Unless, perhaps, Titor was well aware that his target Internet alt-sci audience would assume facts not in evidence, i.e. they'd read into the post what they wanted to see even though it wasn't in the post?

 

And some people have done just that - read into his statement what they wanted to read into it.

 

Titor was very good at playing salesman-like games by getting some people to agree with vaguely worded statements because he knew his target audience and that they would have a preconceived notion of what they thought they were reading without questioning the details of what was actually written.

 

Lawyers are also pretty good at that game. ;)

 

 

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Titor didn't predict a tsunami.

Charlie Was...1 year Ahead back to 2003

 

Quoted:

 

entry dated: 12/14/03 03:52

 

I think you haven't quite grasped what I said. When I say extreme, I mean extreme. The size of this earthquake is going to going to be the biggest earthquake seen in modern times. The destruction caused by this plus 9.5 Richter quake will be immense.

 

 

 

I have just returned from the coming quake location to see if there are any clues that the quake is almost here. I was suprised by my finding as current technology should be easily able to record it. I made some subtle enquiries to USGS to see whether they have the same readings that I collected. Well, their answers were somewhat standerized. I think if I asked them about a dead volcano that I would have got the same response.

 

 

 

Although I am still bound to mission protocols and therefore I cannot reveal the exact location, but I think I can get away with giving you this. Please goto http://www.iris.edu/seismon and look at the locations for the quakes over the last two weeks. Now all I can tell you that it is not going to be near any of those locations.

 

Takken from:

 

John Titor I know you are sitll here...TTI

 

then:

 

Without a context who should be surprised except as stated above. Unless, perhaps, Titor was well aware that his target Internet alt-sci audience would assume facts not in evidence, i.e. they'd read into the post what they wanted to see even though it wasn't in the post?

No, Some US States/Comonwalth think the same or can you explain what about the

 

Claiming state sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.

 

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=4009

 

in other words:

 

In case you didn't hear about it on the mainstream media

 

(which you haven't), numerous states are discussing [VERY] modest

 

limits to further increases in power of the Federal government,

 

and are advertising this dialog as 'State Sovereignty':

 

 

It is interesting to note that Arizona explicitly speaks about continuity of government and the role of servicemen.

 

 

 

..."if the President or any other federal entity attempts to institute martial law or its equivalent without an official declaration in one or more of the states without the consent of that state ...

 

individual members of the military return to their respective states and report to the Governor until a new President is elected;..."

 

then you start wondering about 5 Us Regions and Omaha...NE

 

 

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recall,

 

This is a serious question for you:

 

Are there more than one person posting under your handle? I ask because sometimes the posts are made in rather perfect English. At other times, for example your last post, they hardly make any sense at all. It's as if two people are posting on the account - one who speaks and writes English fluently and the other who does not.

 

 

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I'm bumping this thread because this Mad Cow connection could lead to another prediction hit for JT.

timeloop,

 

What do you mean by "another prediction hit"? I've been with the story since it started and tracking his hits and misses. He has zero direct hits so far. He completely missed on every prediction where he gave a specific year - and three of those predictions form the basis for the story: Weekly Wacky Waco Incidents (2004), US Civil war (2008) and CERN's discovery that leads to his gadget ("within a year or so" of his post on the subject in 2001 - 2002-2003). He also missed on the Olympics (none after 2004).

 

Why don't you post what you consider to be his prediction hits.

 

Thanks

 

 

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Darby,

 

I fear that something as bad as civil war is on the horizon. Maybe you don't see it coming. Whether it started last year, this year or next year will be academic from the perspective of the future. I just hope we can make through, and that there is something worth making it through for when it's over. Sorry to sound so doomy, but that's the way I see it.

 

 

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hey brother i have red this guy story like 1000 times ok?,so please be cautious and smart before judging other people,what i was asking darby is that he was right on some and wrong in others predictions,anyway let me clear ya buddy that i do not consider myself a fan from his stories but i would rather be called and impressed or atracted person towards his whole 2036 timeline story.Besides anything is possible until you can prove me wrong and that is my philosophy in life ok?,i am very open to Science stuff,thanks!!!! ;) :) ;) :)

 

 

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The MAd CoW Issue...04-14-2009 19:43

 

Mad Cow in US - No Date Given - 12/23/2003

 

...

 

*if i have a date wrong, please let me know.

Speaking of Fast Food Restaurants?

 

This is what happened there:

 

Quoted:

 

04-14-2009 19:43

 

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About 13 tons of American beef were falsely sold as Australian products five years ago in defiance of a disposal order issued after a case of mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), was reported in the United States.

 

The prosecution indicted two men, identified as Seon and Kim, Monday, for having hoarded the American beef from a discount store where Seon worked and having supplied it to big discount store chains and department stores.

 

In December 2003, when cows suspected of having the disease were found in the U.S. and Seon's company was ordered to dispose of all American beef, he allegedly destroyed seven tons and falsely reported to the company that he had destroyed the entire 29 tons in the store.

 

Among the remaining 22 tons, Seon delivered 12.7 tons to discount stores and department stores between August and December 2004. The two fabricated expiration dates of the products and labeled them as ``Australian beef,'' raking in 280 million won in revenue. The products sold out.

 

Seon claimed that they did not distribute about 10 tons of the remaining products, but prosecutors suspect they did, requesting a tax agency audit Kim's company.

 

The prosecution is considering expanding the investigation into other meat distributors to search for similar cases.

 

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end quoted from:

 

Link to Korean News..

 

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