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Interesting thing about Israelis. Of course from personal experience I know that most Israelis suck big time. They have broken more UN resolutions than Iraq, but you don't see us invading them do you? Could it be to do with Bush? Yup thought so. I wouldn't have a problem with Israel getting invaded if they fail to leave Palastine alone, but we shall see how things progress.

 

Ref:9/11 attacks, you people need to sue whoever built the towers, I've seen bombs that can do more damage than a jumbo jet crashing into those towers, hit buildings in Iraq, and still the things are left standing!

 

Ref: Michael Moore eh? Hit a raw nerve has he SadOne? Seemsta. :-)

 

 

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Alien White Paper - The Alien Question?

 

From: http://www.geocities.com/alienaxioms/alien_white_paper.html

 

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Alien White Paper - The Alien Question?

 

Many serious people have claimed to see flying saucers. The vessels have been identified on radar, and pictures have been taken of them. You have seen the photos in newspapers, magazines or official reports, based on the evidence. Essentially most (not all) of the UFO cases reported were often natural or unfamiliar phenomena, and some were awash in credulity, from those politically or financially motivated to discourage skepticism. This white paper is based on the premise that the UFO phenomenon is real.

 

On the basis of present knowledge and the most likely explanation of the extraterrestrial hypothesis, we have been and are being visited by intelligent life forms that appear self-disguising in and out of the narrow band of human perception. These continuous direct and indirect multifaceted alien manifestations demonstrate we are connected beyond the universe as we know it and are part of a much more profound cosmic process, the connecting of two species.

 

Earth has and is undoubtedly being watched by an advanced intelligence and our scientific community has been seriously misinformed of this enigma for decades. The ongoing search for a radio signal from an extraterrestrial source is a culture bound presumption fuelling arrogance that ignores the intricate connection of our collective well-being and consciousness with the universe. We have been presented a profound mystery of an intelligence that has entered our space and we are ignoring its transformation potential and purpose primarily because we do not have any way of controlling the vast implications for our contemporary world. The realization that we are not physically at the center of the universe or able to dominate this new intelligent life form with our intelligence or scientific world view may defy our conventional explanations but it is not reason enough to permit us to ignore the fact we have extraterrestrial visitors.

 

The evidence that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth and currently operating in our skies on a regular uninterrupted basis is extensive beyond a shadow of a doubt both in scope and detail. In its totality it comprises a body of evidence so profound that it has numbed the human experience of all government and religious leaders around the world into an absolute de facto policy of denial. This would also include most if not all members of our mainstream scientific community who fear the social stigma associated with the subject.

 

Magnetic and geologic surveys of many areas throughout the world have revealed magnetic anomalies that could not be produced by any natural or known phenomena. These transient magnetic anomalies have been recorded by humans, indicating synchronous aerial magnetic anomalies that have a multidimensional para physical place of origin in terms of a different level of reality where stability and solidity are being fuelled by a ceaseless process of subatomic particles, constantly dissolving into an implicit order and then re-crystallizing within our space. Extraterrestrial biological entities are using technologies and aspects of the physical universe that are beyond our current understanding to conceal their behavior, culture and appearance. Occasionally they reveal their presence in our measurable space-time by making frequency shifts that leave traces of field flux in certain energy spectra that allows us to witness their presence.

 

Conclusion

 

The fact is intelligence is at work here and we are in a symbiotic relationship with something that disguises itself so as not to alarm us. It is imperative that we engage our attention and full resources directly at this phenomenon now, not when our science or government is ready to validate it. We need to purge our traditional thinking of "everything not of this world" as a paradoxical absurdity or we will lose the key and code of who we are. Adopting an open attitude will enable us to discover a new perspective on these alien interventions that function at levels that can begin in the unseen realm and cross over and manifest in the physical world. Our focus should be on analyzing what is happening, not what should be happening. It is important for us to separate the signal from the noise if we are to transform our current global state of chaos and war into a balanced world of peace and prosperity. The actions we take today will constitute the greatest intellectual adventure of pioneering fundamental truth into a broader model capable of appealing to the universal potentials of human understanding and preservation.

 

Extraterrestrial Contact Check List

 

(1.) An intelligent life form from another place in the physical universe is now known. (2.) Recurring signals have been detected that do not occur in nature. (3.) The signals detected are manufactured. (4.) Non natural objects have been detected within the boundaries of our solar system. (5.) Earth based sensors have detected non-natural objects within our space. (6.) Earth based sensors have detected non-natural objects in close proximity and observed them maneuvering under intelligent control. (7.) Earth based sensors have detected non-natural objects in close proximity and observe them maneuvering under intelligent control in response to human actions. (8.) Earth based sensors have detected non-natural objects in close proximity and have observed them maneuvering under intelligent control with an ability to evade sensors. (9.) Several credible people and groups have observed and reported seeing non-Earth-based spacecraft for long duration's and various sensors confirm sightings. (10.) Official organizations have reported observing spacecraft near Earth. (11.) Official organizations have acknowledged occupants of spacecraft on Earth. (12.) Groups of credible people have reported interacting with occupants of spacecraft. (13.) Official organizations have acknowledged interacting with occupants of spacecraft. (14.) The occupants of the spacecraft have demonstrated a clear technical and intellectual superiority.

 

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Containers Of Light

 

Many on earth believe humans are the experimental product of extraterrestrial visitors seeking the very essence and embodiment of life. Others think that extraterrestrials are searching for the immaterial part and animating force of individuals, the actuating cause of an individual life which is perceived to have its own distinct existence and ability to act, or function, independently.

 

Experiencing of affective and emotional states are a feature of a mental life as a living organism, able to experience acts representing abstractions as physical things or giving them the appearance of reality which cause actions to occur within awareness and relationships, especially between two or more human beings. This general concept is the basis for extracting common features from specific examples to create a knowledge domain of perception which provides reasoning. Many have used the term "life force" to describe the basis of this essence.

 

What is this life essence dimension that has the interest of off world beings? It is a product of a living universal intelligence joining with a physical form to contain new properties of coexistence that otherwise would not exist. This unified sentience is the basis of all consciousness that creates the human journey, enabling a connection with the natural world in a spiritual, intelligent way.

 

Living systems in the universe respond in ways that are systematically and dynamically, interconnected with the quantum mechanical basis of interconnection. The fact is quantum "states" are not located in particular things, but can be shared over many living systems through space, as a consequence of some deeper, non spatial reality.

 

The universe is a place of continual ongoing harmony and balance where new things keep coming into being. The strongest argument for this is from the physical cosmology that has developed over the last few decades, in which physical processes produce first the prototypes of matter, then the different kinds of physical laws, then actual manifestation and structure, and so on down the line to the many species of life throughout the universe. These immense combined powers of a living universal intelligence and physical form have given homo sapiens the means and the opportunity to achieve several major evolutionary bounces to arrive at this end time of initiation, to reverberate into the distant future. Future paradigms will be based on the discovery of other life forms that may need human beings to open their lives to the embodied creative and spiritual nature of the living universe. Future generations will look back on this paradigm to reflect on how the current generation met the challenge of living through one of the most stressful, turbulent, exciting, and important time in human evolution.

 

Conclusion

 

The future will no longer be thought of as a continuation of the past. From this point on, human beings will not be seeing the end of a species, but its beginning, as mankind endeavors to travel outer and inner space, in search of life. When history is taught in the future, when today's children and their children look back on this time, this time will be viewed not as the beginning of the end, but as the time of coming into the light of the living universe.

 

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Re: Alien White Paper - The Alien Question?

 

Well,

 

I have to admit, my time travel device did not work as planned. It fired up just fine and all tests confirmed it was operational. But, it did not transport me anywhere. I'll keep working on it.

 

I am documenting my work at http://www.ufophil.com now for anyone who wants to review my notes. Also, if you have any scientific recommendations, I will review them.

 

...UFO Phil

 

 

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Raj,

 

I don't know where to start! But Rhudey does have a very good point.

 

I have read a pH D, no less, on all sorts of different alien species, humanoid or otherwise, in various alliances, groups, bands and fellowships. Which are or are not interacting with our Earth by visiting or providing secret alliances and deals of whatever sort to governments of our society; all however possess unimaginable technological power. The theory which is my personal favourite is that they are planning to conquer our world. Well what are they waiting for, if they are so all powerful and invincible. Are they afraid of me? They bloody should be. lol

 

We are possibly thousands of years in advance of our natural growth in technology. If you compare with our natural technological evolution from 1000 to 1940.

Yes, they were called the 'dark ages' and the medieval times because relatively little was achieved.

 

After 1940, our rate of change in technology accelerated by factors of 10's: Just years apart, we churned out multiple generations of computers, that rapidly down-size from computers 40 feet by 30 feet with thousands of transistors, to modern 4nm by 3nm nanochips with hundreds of millions of transistors.

Yeah, it's incredible what the human mind can do if you use it.

 

Yet the problem of the UFO's and aliens visiting us needs answered, not nearly as much as the question involving our races own true origins.

 

Good Scientist

 

 

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I have a theory about that, the Aliens, as we like to call them are, Us!!, HUMAN BEINGS, from a Nth future horizon, that have developed not only space travel, but Time travel,the thing about it, who else would take such a vested interest, in a single blue planet on the outer rim of this enormous galaxy, unless there origins, where right here from mother Earth, and the conspiracy, that our dear government, is trying to cover up, is in part a way of preserving that temporal line, with time travel, you can carefully engineer, you entire genetic history (experimentation??!!), from the dawn of man to the present, and subsequently all religious, and socio-developments, Not one alien abductee, is a simple random occurance, that all have some part in future events!!:eek:

 

 

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Defintely more plausible than all this rubbish as above. How is it we have not a great amount of alien sightings, in the time predating lets say the 19 - 20 th century. Im no saying you won't find some strange accounts and such, but no one can tell me it's suddenly become desireable to visit out planet. What a load of crap, I'll also retitereate that if there is some alien plot to take over our world, and they doing it slowly, subverting us and in a covert way maniplating us then they are the stupid ones. A forceful invasion in the early days of man would have met less resistance, technologically and population wise, plus the planet would be in a much better condition than it is now.

 

Aliens be afraid be very afraid.

 

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Defintely more plausible than all this rubbish as above. How is it we have not a great amount of Quote[alien sightings, in the time predating lets say the 19 - 20 th century. Im no saying you won't find some strange accounts and such, but no one can tell me it's suddenly become desireable to visit out planet. What a load of crap, I'll also retitereate that if there is some alien plot to take over our world, and they doing it slowly, subverting us and in a covert way maniplating us then they are the stupid ones. A forceful invasion in the early days of man would have met less resistance, technologically and population wise, plus the planet would be in a much better condition than it is now.]quote

 

Aliens be afraid be very afraid.

 

Good Scientist

 

Take a close look at the christian old testament, you will see alien proof. Look at the Egyptians, look at the Astec, we have been here for centuries.

 

 

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The Christian old testament? For evidence? Of something real? That might actually have happened?

 

NO. As far as I'm aware the Egyptians and Aztec (proper spelling), were human, still that does not disprove my claim that Alien / UFO encounters are a very recent development. Been here for centuries you say! Did my ancestors scare the s*** out of them, so they left again.

 

The early civilisations do have mysteries about them, like theri ability to build large structures to a great degree of accuracy, ancienyt maps etc. All points to a more ancient lost civilisation, maybe the true origins of our own race, but nothing that seems wholly extraterrestrial.

 

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Alien child is correct.

 

Our past is littered with just as many sightings as we have had since the 60's onwards. They are in every era since we started making drawings on cave walls.

 

Aliens and UFOs in the past are represented as gods or mythical creatures (as at the time - people's mindsets would not handle the more plausable explanation of offworld humans).

 

In fact some of these older stories and legends are more documented and believable then todays often paranoid contactees/abductees.

 

If you are able to use logic and read between the lines, Yes the bible is full of ET refferences. Its probably the only real bit of truth contained within it.

 

Kindest regards,

 

Olly

 

 

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They were actually pretty strong, its the intense and continuous fire from the jet fuel that melted the beams, I don't think they actually planned for it.

 

...and Israelis arn't the problem, you go there for yourself to see, dont believe anything you read from anyone. Not from the US, England, Israel itself. it's all got a spin, go for yourself and check it out. you will be suprised how wrong both sides are. and how right they are at the same time.

 

its all about misleading the public, on BOTH sides.

 

 

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Raj writes, "I am in the process of seting up an Alien awareness movement. I have come to the following inescapable conclusions, that I assure you are the results of objective analysis:

 

1. Aliens exist and have been visiting us since the dawn of man.

 

2. Aliens have been in contact with the government for possibly 70 years.

 

3. Terrestrial technology has been accelerated artificially by aliens, indirectly and directly.

 

8. A New World Order is emerging in a drive towards a totalitarian regime.

 

10. Genocides are being implemented against populations; billions could die.

 

11. HIV and SARS have been manufactured to kill populations.

 

You may ask me any sensible questions. I will endeavor to answer them to the best of my abilities."

 

Dear Raj,

 

1. The ETs/Aliens are either totally inept and therefore the Col. Klink's of outer space or -

 

2. They're hopelessly insecure ... to the point of making Woody Allen look like a paragon of self-confidence or -

 

3. They're robots with flawed programming ... shades of Nomad in the Star Trek episode "The Changeling" or -

 

4. They're dimensional shifters/time travelers, who are, as far as we're concerned, moving slower than molasses in the winter as they inch their way forward at snails pace in fulfilling their agenda or -

 

5. They're unbelievably evil and malicious.

 

I don't think the "Evil Aliens" model works very well. Why? Because if they were that whacked out they'd have off'd us or themselves long ago, don't you think? Alternately, at the very least, the "kink factor" for them in abusing mankind would've worn off centuries ago and/or they'd have stooped to even lower levels of perversions against mankind ... don't you think?

 

So, I can't see any model that works or fits the bill - what most UFOlogists can agree on about their "doings" here on planet Earth. Good Aliens? Bad Aliens? Good ETs vs. Bad ETs? None of these seem to hold any water.

 

Here are some of the "givens" I think most UFOlogists would agree upon:

 

1. "They" appear to pilot and/or control UFOs and/or spaceships.

 

2. "They" are -- i. human shadow govt types running black ops, ii. human regular govt types running black ops, iii. human dimensional shifters, iv. ET dimensional shifters, v. human time travelers, vi. ET time travelers, vii. ETs (be they interplanetary or interstellar in origin), viii. spiritual entities (i.e., non-corporeal celestial or terrestrial entities with broad powers of illusion) or ix. any combination of the above.

 

3. "They" bag and tag humans and use humans for procreative and/or physiological "experiments".

 

4. "They" have been in contact with and/or co-operate with individuals in the U.S. Govt. (et al).

 

5. "They" have an interest in our livestock.

 

If we can agree upon these "givens," then ... perhaps we could look at the proposed ET/Alien models, one-at-a-time, and attempt to establish the pro's and con's for each, eh?

 

 

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Let us further agree that our purpose here is not to prove or disprove the existence of ET/Alien activity on Earth - not that any mere thread could hope to answer those questions one way or another.

 

The premise we're going to labour under is that there has been and continues to be ET/Alien activity on Earth and that there's a reason behind this activity. Someone has already pointed out to me that applying human "motives, psychology, politics" (et al) to ET/Aliens is a flawed approach precisely because we are dealing with Alien Beings here and ... their ways aren't necessarily are ways, etc.

 

Be that as it may, I would suggest that since the scientific method doesn't exclude drawing analogies between mankind and the animal world, even in the case of animals whose environment is alien to our own, such an approach - flawed as it is - might still have some merit.

 

The question at hand is ... can we determine a "working model" that explains ET/Alien activity given what the majority of UFOlogists can agree about this phenomena? Theories - be they right or wrong - have already been advanced by UFOlogist and/or asserted by abductees and ET-mongers. So, let's go with that for now and just accept it as a given and move on to exploring the various models and theories, okay?

 

 

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The Aliens could have a prime directive like Star Trek in which they can watch but cannot interfere. This could be a main reason for abductions, to erase people's memories because they noticed the Aliens...some have been successful and some may have not, so they keep trying to come back and erase the memories of those certain people. Maybe it only lasts a few years so then they need to keep coming back, this could be an answer for multiple abduction times.

 

I really don't believe that any ET's have been controlling or in contact with our goverment because that just seems a little too far fetched. But, if there was proof to this then I would be the first person to believe it but until then, I will stay on the side of the disbelievers who believe in ET's but not to the extent of them controlling us or our government.

 

One thing I believe is that there are three different kinds of ET's...1) Hostile (could consist of friendly's at the beginning to scout out the world or just an all out "take over") :devil: 2) Friendly(which they don't have a prime directive and try to either ally with a civilization or teach them) :) and 3) Friendly but have a Prime Directive in which they cannot interfere, so they just watch until the civilization is ready.

 

What do you think?

 

 

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Well, if they are visiting us from other worlds, they must be more advanced in one way or another, don't you think? I meant this....

 

They could be more advanced in traveling through space, but we are more advanced on the home front..things like this. So they continue to watch us to gain information that they can use to advance themselves. Or if they are in cohoots with the govt., then maybe we have some sort of trade going on for information. We allow them to learn from us and in return they teach us things that we have not yet discovered. Kind of like economics and the Theory of Comparitive Advantage, one country that specializes in a good trades that good with another country that specializes in a different good...

 

So two civilizations do not have to be necessarily more advanced in an overall society, they could be more advanced in part of their society. This will make them then travel throughout the galaxy looking for civilizations that specialize in what they do not.

 

Again, this is just a guess and my interpretation on what I think....it does not mean it is right but I believe that this guess does make you think.... :)

 

 

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I am sure there are aliens out there and just like us, they don't have the technology of interstellar travel. It would be a very self-centered view if people believed we were the only life in the entire universe, let alone the entire galaxy.

 

Lets say we have 2 species (A and B). Species A believes they are one of the most advanced species. Species B also thinks this. They then meet and Species A realizes that they are not as advanced in interstellar travel as Species B but they are more advanced in weather control and Weapons. Species B also realizes that they are more advanced in Interstellar Travel and less advanced in weather control and weapons. This could be because one species has better access to different resources for their respective technology. The prudent move would then be to form a trade agreement to advance both civilizations in their respective areas(species A- Interstellar travel Species B- Weather Control and Weapons)...and thus we have one species that is far more superior in one aspect but less advanced in another...

 

Just because one species is more advanced in one area doesn't mean they are more advanced in all areas of their civilization.

 

 

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