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In pondering a response to zerubbabel it occurred to me that in the Kabballah the major principle that is stressed is the principle of Equilibrium and Balance. If I walk outside to the end of my driveway and turn around to return to the house, What would happen if I was to travel in time to meet myself at the end of the driveway?

 

If the law that states that energy can not be created nor destroyed only altered in form is correct, in order to meet myself I would actually be increasing the amount of matter at that moment, which would be impossible. The space that my present self now occupies in addition to my past self would possibly disturb the fundemental law of equilibrium and balance that existence hinges upon/ and nullify that law of physics. Thus whatever powers enforce that equilibrium and balance would prevent me from travelling back in time.

 

How could I travel back in time wothout upsetting the equilibrium and balance? Perhaps by swapping places with my former self at that past moment...thus occupying the same place with the same amount of matter. However..would there be enough differences between the past me and the present me to cause differences in the space each occupies?

 

What if there is a way to "influence" the present from the future? A way that would involve such a minute amount of matter or energy that the shift would not be noticed/ a fringe element that would not effect equilibrium and balance? In essence..our dreams don't seem to have any effect on the past or present as far as adding or subtracting any matter in the past or present...this seems to be acceptable with regards to maintenance of the balance and equilibrium.

 

This is what I propose as an experiment...

 

If a target date was to be selected in the future...May 30th, 2004 as a date to meditate/concentrate on a "messsage" from myself...a set of numbers (the lottery :)...and write them down and buy a ticket.

 

Then place the ticket away, not memorizing the numbers in any way, shape or form..and if possible to forget about those set of numbers completely. The selected day of the outcome of the lottery numbers do not attempt to make any connection with the numbers previously provided, do not see if the numbers were correct or not! That night concentrate to connect to the mind of the past self. A transfer of present knowledge to the past mind, like as in a dream transfer so to speak...

 

Then after this has been done...the next day or so is when the numbers can be compared. If correct and there are any winnings..the method would not have really altered any time line or upset the equilibrium and balance that I believe has prevented time travel so far and will continue to do so if existence itself is placed at risk.

 

I am going to give it a whirl...and would be interesting to see what happens after the target dates and how many people succeed.

 

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Don't talk about kaballah, its obvious you don't understand it, and for good reason.

 

The thing all the celebrities do isn ot kaballa, they can't do jack.

 

The real kaballah, if you knew it, would drive you to a point of insanity.

 

Thats the way its designed.

 

There is one book out which is sort of like 'kabbalah for dummies' which is still very difficult to understand, and also a very rare book. So I assume you've never read it, you would know what I'm talking about, because there's only one.

 

I myself only know one person who knows kaballah, that is, I assume he knows it. Doesn't talk about it, but he is a genious.

 

I'm just goin on the really good chance that you havn't finished all of the teachings (gemarah) of the rabinnical council (sanhedrin) and can recite any page by heart. I know several people who can, and they don't touch kaballah.

 

Yeah, and I know more than the celebrities know, I could tell you some pretty weird stuff.

 

 

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it occurred to me that in the Kabballah the major principle that is stressed is the principle of Equilibrium and Balance.

Yup. Not to mention that it is the foundation for ALL science and engineering. It is the entire concept of "=".

 

If the law that states that energy can not be created nor destroyed only altered in form is correct, in order to meet myself I would actually be increasing the amount of matter at that moment, which would be impossible.

Energy. You're in the right ballpark. However, matter is only one piece of energy, and motion is the other piece. Matter deals in warping of Masstime (my term) fabric. Motion deals in warping of Spacetime (common term) fabric. You could "legally" increase the amount of matter to meet yourself, but you would need to rob from the motion of some other body to keep energy constant. You could possibly co-opt the entire matter & motion of some other person to meet yourself at the end of the driveway. In fact, there are some kabbalists that claim this is EXACTLY what is going on in ANY human interaction... we are simply meeting ourselves, exchanging information (energy) with ourselves, and all the time (pun intended) we do not recognize the other person AS OURSELVES. Separateness is the grand illusion.

I've spent a good deal of time (this pun not intended) thinking about how our common belief for how time travel "should" manifest is flawed. We are relying too much on interpretations of our senses, and there are examples everywhere of how our senses don't tell us the entire truth. How we THINK time travel should manifest is flawed because we are not understanding the full implications of how Mass, Space, and Time are woven together to create the possibilities of Matter and Motion. Allow me to give an example/analogy with respect to travel in Space, and then let's see how/if it relates to the problem of travel in time.

 

Many of us are of the belief that we can return to a precise point in Space in a repeatable fashion (like the end of your driveway). While the next time you show up at the end of your driveway, it may give the appearance of being the same point in Space, but nothing could be further from the truth. The earth has rotated, and it has also translated in Space since the last time you were at the end of your driveway. You have arrived at the same point in RELATIVE Space (relative to some fixed Mass), but you have NOT arrived at the same point ABSOLUTE Space. Now consider just how much energy you would need to expend to ACTUALLY get to the exact same point in Space! You would literally need to stop ALL motion in the universe and "rewind the clock" to get everything back to the way it was in order for the end of your driveway to be at the same point in absolute Space (whatever we define that to be).

 

This may sound like a silly analogy, but now start to think about how it also applies to Time and the potential for time travel. We humans fantasize about traveling to an absolute point in Time, and seem to think it should work out like traveling to a point in Space. Well, it could, but for the fact that our view of traveling to a point in Space is distorted by what our senses tell us. Our senses tell us this is the same end of our driveway we visited yesterday. But our senses are not telling us the whole truth. The Space has changed. I maintain that you would need to expend the same monumental effort to travel to an absolute point in Time as you would have to expend to travel to an absolute point in Space.

 

So....rather than trying to figure out how to stop the universe, I think it best to understand Time a little more deeply. For if we can be satisfied with traveling to the same RELATIVE point in Space (as if it were "close enough"), then we ought to ask if we would be satisfied with traveling to the same RELATIVE point in Time...and what, exactly, would that mean?

 

If we start to think deeply in these terms, we are eventually going to get to a point where we talk about cycles, and circles, and circular motions, and circular geometric constructs. And why shouldn't we, since the evidence all around us, from atoms to galaxies, seems to be telling us that the unbroken circle is fundamental to all things. And thus I propose: Not only is Time NOT 1-dimensional and linear, but it is 3-dimensional and circular.

 

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OverLrdLegion

 

One of the many thinghs that Kabbalah teaches is about the reconciliation of the opposites through the equilibrium. However as The Sad One pedanticly puts it, there is more to it than just that.

 

Now one thing is that in order to learn from the living numbers one must accept to know nothing. Keep humility at it's highest and above all depend on the grace and favor of our Lord.

 

I hope you get to study it and be engraced by its wisdom.

 

Until later becomes now.

 

 

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Your basic nature and the taught nature dictates the non-acceptance of what you are referring.

 

How can you wish to bend time when you cannot yet bend your own mind?

 

Everything is made of energy, can you leave your shell yet? <popularily termed as OOBE>

 

Doubt is falsely fueled by the subconscience when your front mind wishes it to be so.

 

Your own subconscience knows all these answers plus more, but is in awareness; your frontal mind is allowed to give it the commands it will place into program.

 

Get rid of the doubt being fueled by the frontal mind, give acceptance to the subconscience, bow to it as it is the true master of being, and never let fear be the empowering elemental.

 

Fear as an elemental?

 

Creating reality gives breath to creation of anything.

 

You are a god. You are God.

 

Doubt that and you are what you are.

 

You have made it so.

 

Only be worried and have fear when humans master the true disintegration of energy.

 

Alpha and Omega is based solely upon the origin of energy.

 

 

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Hi There, Roel:

 

I was under the assumption that Kabballah was a kind of religion... ?

A common misconception, because so much of the written material about Kabbalah is either mystical, or couched in the Hebraeic tradition. The reality is that it is a "body of knowledge" that can be applied to any act of creation, or any "system".

Ever since I was introduced to Kabbalah (or Qabalah, or many other spellings) in 1982, and first saw the Tree Of Life, my first reaction was "that is a neural net schematic". From that time forward I was CERTAIN that there was "real science" behind it. Not only did it eventually lead to my work on aligning my Massive SpaceTime Matrix model to the TOL, but I have also determined that the TOL is probably the penultimate block diagram of systems engineering. But the things I discovered did not end there...

 

On a spiritual note: I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but I rejected much of it because of the many obvious contradictions, and then there was this thing called "Church Law". So I renounced my faith in that "flavor" of spirituality. Not long after was when I was introduced to Qabalah and the TOL. In studying it over the years, and trying to "decode" the science of the TOL within mystical texts, I finally came to the realization that the enlightened man known as Jesus Christ was nothing more than a Master Qabalist. He KNEW the science behind the TOL, and the core knowledge of what he taught was based in the TOL and Qabalah. He understood the relationship of anything to everything.... he understood closed-loop feedback, and how the universe amplifies and reflects the energy that you put into it. Thus, his message about "being love" and sending out nothing but love is highly technical. Many, many people have displayed this truth in how they lived their lives, and the results they achieved.

 

You don't have to espouse any religious beliefs to study or understand Qabalah. But if you're not careful, you just might become enlightened about the scientific basis of spirituality as a result of studying it! ;)

 

Kind Regards,

 

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OvrLrdLegion,

 

Thanks for the well-worded analogy. I agree entirely with your understanding of the maintenance of the balance and equilibrium. I believe that same analogy applies to "dreams" as well. Time would necessarily follow in order for balance and equilibrium to be prevalent throughout. It is this "overall equilibrium" which would prevent the scenario you would like to experiment with, from ever bearing fruit.

 

>>>>would there be enough differences between the past me and the present me to cause differences in the space each occupies?<<<< Massive differences beyond comprehension.

 

>>>>our dreams don't seem to have any effect on the past or present as far as adding or subtracting any matter in the past or present...this seems to be acceptable with regards to maintenance of the balance and equilibrium.<<<< They don't "seem" to, but they do in unforeseen ways not contemplated upon before entering consciously into these "states". I think it is most eloquently stated best by another post on this thread about the "subconscience". At first I thought it a mispelling but it is absolutely apt. As a matter of fact, along with other posts on this thread(including yours), several pieces of the puzzle have come together in one thread. I am going to try and use a subjective experience of mine to come to an objective view of the reality.

 

Without going too deeply into the circumstances surrounding this experience, let me explain what I was consciously experiencing. Being fully wide awake, I left my body and traveled into my past. I "entered" into my body becoming fully cognizant of my own "present" self as well as fully remembering every detail of that past moment resplendent with tastes and colors and sounds. I affected nothing of that period but was simply observer. "I" was profoundly changed. My "comeliness" of that time became corruption. Simply "being" there placed me in connection with "subconscience" which is in turn connected to "superconscience". I believe that this is the only way we can affect the past and therefore our future. We are, ultimately, our own guardian angels. On that level, only our future incarnation is important, and those who will share in that incarnation. The "romantic" vision of time travel will never be simply because of the equilibrium and balance. The reality will be much more beautiful.

 

>>>>the method would not have really altered any time line or upset the equilibrium and balance that I believe has prevented time travel so far and will continue to do so if existence itself is placed at risk.<<<<

 

Actually, the method would have altered the whole future had it been allowed to succeed. I can think of endless permutations of changes as a result of that one change. Given an opportunity to infinitely permutate would cause infinite changes. Not even a multiverse would be able to contain it. In the words of a physicist I admire, there is an "aesthetic flaw" in the romantic, selfish view of what time travel would look like. There is a "resonance" to aspire to in order to enter the "realm". That resonance must match with the resonance of the balance and equilibrium.

 

 

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Sumeria_Incarnat,

 

Your post was most timely. I enjoyed it a great deal and "resonated" with it. Of course, i agree with you entirely. It is really difficult to "step out of the box" and think of ourselves in the terms you presented. East and West is truly coming to a point of the true understanding of what each of us is intuitively sensing and draws us ever onward to something that was only dimly seen as separate cultures. We are beginning to realize that a theme runs throughout our psyches that transcends the mundane and seeks to find the purpose of the part that we play in that theme.

 

I cannot conceive of a time when humans will ever be able to master true disintregation of energy. I can conceive of forces that would endlessly attempt to do so since they do not rely on energy to exist and perhaps enlist humans in that endeavor, but my "frontal mind" casts out all fear of that and gives certainty to the future. "Faith is swallowed up in victory". "Fear not him which can destroy your body in Hell. Rather, fear Him who can destroy both body AND soul". Thanks for your contribution to this thread. I really appreciated it.

 

 

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Hey Transient,

 

Sound advice. Humility is not just a state that should be aspired to. It is the very means of that aspiration. Few realize what it means to think of oneself as "nothing". Ironically, it is the only means of discovering the "nothing" that created "everything". I love ironies and this is the ultimate one. I believe that it is in the nothing that we will eventually discover the true "energy" of energy. Good to see you "out and about". I always enjoy your posts.

 

 

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Rainman Time,

 

I was raised as a Russian Orthodox, but experienced many different methods of faith. I had a constant nagging within that there was so much more than what was offered. Many years of wandering aimlessly finally brought me to the study of Kabballah and the TOL. It is very difficult material to study since it is so easy to stray off on tangents.

 

The TOL provides a method of where to begin and which direction to take. I ended up becoming a member Of Builders of the Adtyum to utilize the skills and experiences of others on similar quests for knowledge. I must admit though that being somewhat impatient I messed around with some Golden Dawn invocations of the elementals and with skepticism went on about my business. I believe I left a gate open ( not really believing any gate could be opened ) and for at least two weeks my life was filled with all kinds of havoc. I quickly read the notes on the elementals and noticed that if one dis-respects such beings, havoc could result. Guess it does pay to read the directions "before" one gets into trouble..eh?

 

The information contained in alot of the works i.e. " Book of Concealed Mysteries" and the Zohar does seem to provide for my theories on time travel solid data. I find it interesting that alot of scientific discoveries were already mentioned in works written by others regarding the Kabballah. I know that one trait of society is to over complicate any subject, and then fall victim to a debate over terminology...Does green really mean green..what is green.. how is green really spelled...perhaps that is Mr. Green to you...such discussions are eternal with no real solutions being pieced together. ( somewhat like the discussions in aol chatrooms )

 

Since I got married, it has become increasingly difficult to devote as much time as I could in the past. My theory on time revolves around energy manipulation ( as everybody elses ) and I am working with sound as a "tool" to envoke changes in the patterns of the energy. SOME of the information in the Kabballah has me convinced that sound( not a particular sound itself but the interaction/re-action of vibrational frequencies and there influence on other vibrational waveforms )( as when you hit a tuning fork and produce a tone..all the other tuning forks of the same frequency near-by will begin to vibrate as well ) is an important key and can be utilized to produce the transformations required to ultimately be successful with time travel.

 

( one experiment that was interesting was one with the influence of near-by objects to harmonize with each other. Placing two pendulum devices together, I started them off at different rates of swing, after a specific duration of time they eventually synchronized with each other and swung at exactly the same rate and direction, this was tried many times with the same results. )

 

I also am experimenting with Tesla Coils and have some pretty interesting dreams after using them.

 

(As a side note...when i was really young I used to be able to project my day-dreams onto flat surfaces, like a wall or ceiling and watch them playout in full technicolor. As I got older I lost that ability.) I am attempting to put all the different components together to create "Only God knows what" device or devices. I have attempted work on liquid computers, independent "ball lightening type" A.I. effects, bio-mechanical electronic devices that draw energy from photo synthesis methods , an idea of computer memory that utilizes the polarity of atomic structure instead of on/off principles... the effects of virtual reality to induce spiritual experiences...but it is really rough going since I don't have the academic background that some of the others in this forum obviously have. Some of you are probably thinking that I've been lucky not to have blown myself up or electrocuted myself...well..I no longer have straight hair on my head, it has been permanently curled and I do wonder every so often IF my nose-hair and eyebrows/lashes will ever grow BACK!

 

My experiments on a spiritual level have had great success, but applying the successes in that realm with this one is difficult since more often then not the information is more visual than 'textual', and the utlimate goal isnt necessarily specific to any particular scientific acheivement, but rather ascension. However, the knowledge/experiences that I have run across seem to provide clues to establishing some successful method of time travel.

 

I am a newbie to this forum and really haven't had the time to break out my manuscripts and notes to bring more in-depth analysis to the table. And I am usually posting these notes late at night when the wife has retired for the evening, my consciousness is being influenced by nocturnal needs and my body is fighting the call of gravity.( and losing )( I think I need to get a braille type keyboard since the letters look so similar at this time of the night )

 

Hopefully I will be able to provide more focused experiences as time moves forward, but must thank all that have responded so far for their gracious latitudes for my mental discourse. Had this forum been available back in the late seventies and eighties...well..a variation of mental stimulation was in use that allowed in depth concentration/focus on mental gymnastics of this sort.

 

All my postings are also not in depth as to exactly what I am doing with my experiments and what components are involved since they are rather voluminous and are somewhat scatterred about the household only to be utilized when needed and then tossed aside at random when the mind is inspired to follow a new revelation that must be immediately contemplated and/or worked. Plus the wife in her attempt to clean...causes a loss of knowing exact locations of calculations, contemplations and solutions.

 

I am currently attempting to organize them into a presentable format, classifying them to relate to time travel methodology , but finding some of crucial pieces has turned out to be quite the treasure hunt. I know I had em..saw em last week..but where they have gone too now that I need em...????

 

OvrLrdLegion

 

 

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OvrLrdLegion,

 

>>>>SOME of the information in the Kabballah has me convinced that sound( not a particular sound itself but the interaction/re-action of vibrational frequencies and there influence on other vibrational waveforms )( as when you hit a tuning fork and produce a tone..all the other tuning forks of the same frequency near-by will begin to vibrate as well ) is an important key and can be utilized to produce the transformations required to ultimately be successful with time travel.<<<<

 

Very astute observation. Amazingly, all these elements are represented in the Old Testament Sanctuary as "shaking posts", arches that ring, trumpets, lyres, harps and human voices, sound on sound and light against light--fully contained, surrounded by a gold structure that reflects its glory upon itself. It is, indeed, a very important key. Welcome to the forum. I look forward to your ideas.

 

 

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SOME of the information in the Kabballah has me convinced that sound( not a particular sound itself but the interaction/re-action of vibrational frequencies and there influence on other vibrational waveforms )( as when you hit a tuning fork and produce a tone..all the other tuning forks of the same frequency near-by will begin to vibrate as well ) is an important key and can be utilized to produce the transformations required to ultimately be successful with time travel.

Here we go, hang on for the ride! Synchronicity is on the increase. Not only did Zerub focus-in on this point you made, but I now want to share with you a post I made in a discussion with Wedge over on the Alternate Energies board just last night!

From the thread "Interesting Article on Quantum Ether":

 

The concept of "external momentum" of a body is exhibited by translational and rotational velocities (motion). We typically measure the "internal momentum" of a body by temperature, which is actually described as the average molecular velocity of the matter comprising that body. But I maintain there is another important measure of "internal momentum", and that is the natural (resonant) vibrational frequency of the body. Different bodies resonate at different frequencies. Therefore, if one wishes to modify "internal momentum" to achieve an imbalance with the body's external momentum, you ought to be able to do this by tweaking both the temperature and the resonant frequency of the body.

 

Are you with me here? If "internal momentum" is the same as inertia, and inertia is the slave of gravity, then you would want to decrease a body's "apparant inertia" to free it from its gravity slavery. Doing this would obviously create a momentum imbalance from internal to external, and thus would create motion. Increasing motion (velocity) is how we cause a body to escape the gravitational pull of a larger body.

 

(snip)

 

And I keep thinking that the internal/external momentum thing is the solution to one form of "antigravity". And if I am correct regarding resonant frequencies, then there may be some truth to ancient mystical knowledge that SOUND at certain frequencies can reduce a body's inertial response to gravity. Rumor has it that Edward Leedskalnin used sound energy to levitate the giant coral rocks he used to construct his coral castle.

While I am not yet sure of the relationship to potential time travel, I am virtually certain that resonant vibrations, as representing internal momentum, is a key to "anti-gravity". Along this line, I am having some strong feelings that my professional training in control system frequency response techniques (where we try to AVOID resonance due to is large power amplification capabilities) is meant to serve me in re-discovering these principles. And perhaps the good people on this forum will also play a part?

 

Let's get to work! ;)

 

RainmanTime

 

 

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I had friend that was an engineer for Rockwell and was involved in testing the integrity of missle fabrication. Some of the missles they had to test where still in their silos, so to run their tests they would surround the missle with speakers and play rock and roll to bombard the missle with vibrational intensities and then inspect the missle for any possible occurring damage from the "shaking" of the its structure.

 

Also there is a biography on Nicola Tesla that mentions a device Tesla constructed that was capable of causing materials to disintegrate utilizing vibrations. The book tells of how Tesla demonstrated the hand held unit by attaching it to a large iron chain. The device would tap the surface of the chain and then time the next tap to increase the vibrational wave as it travelled back and forth in the iron. The witnesses of this demonstration said the chain began to shiver and shake and ultimately just disintegrated into fragments. Tesla also claimed to have caused an earthquake with it one night when his curiosity got the bettter of him and he attached it to a support beam in his home. The vibrational effects apparently went so far as to shake the entire neighborhood. Tesla stated that he got so nervous that he had almost caused a catastrophy he destroyed his device soon afterward.

 

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Forgive me for meandering slightly offtopic, but still keeping to some things in this and other threads..

 

Anyone here read the "Conversations with God" books by Neale Donald Walsch? I was just referred to those books by a good friend. Certainly not an angry judgemental needful god in that book, but speaking like a regular person you'd meet today. I'm more than halfway into the first book..

 

I've already read and appreciated The Celestine Prophecy many years ago.. anyone who liked those books would most likely enjoy these books as well.

 

If you are All That Is and just All That Is, then there is no thing you are not, no reference point from which you can observe yourself. No way to experience yourself. And so explodes out the world of what you are and what you are not, the world of relativity, the "here" and "there" and "neither here nor there" which makes the previous two possible. Great books. :) My friend says the new book "Tomorrow's God" is tremendously good..

 

 

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Hi Tyson,

 

Anyone here read the "Conversations with God" books by Neale Donald Walsch?

Seems you are treading the same path, and seeing the same value, as I did when I read these books. Yes, I think they are good, and companion quite well with the The Celestine Prophecy.

Here is a real good indication for how good these books are: My father, who is every bit the engineer that I am (was an AT&T satellite transmissions guru back in the 60s), and who also used to be one of the staunchest Roman Catholics you would ever know....actually REALLY liked the Celestine and Conversations With God books! This is after I tried to discourage him from reading them, as I thought he would find some of the material in there heretical to his Roman Catholic views. To my surprise, these books have really changed his outlook and opened his mind. No longer does he view the Church as "always right" or "always in the best interests of what God wants".

 

In my view, the CWG books relay one very important point: You OWN conversations with God are every bit as important (if not moreso!) as those conversations with God that "prophets" and other Church bigshots have had that we are told to read and abide by!

 

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Re: a slightly religious thread

 

In fear of making this forum far too spiritual than it already is, I shall only say this;

 

I believe that religions, whatever they are, are there in order to prepare the evolving individual into something much more personal and individual that as a paradox unites him with everything else. So, an individual must pass through these hallmarks in order to experience the spirituality inside and then move on..

 

How many of you knew that our central nervous system is equipped with structures that allow for meditation and contemplation of the spiritual. No other animal has this amazing capacity. As Creedo would say, by the way hi Creedo, it has been in bred in our organism the need for the Divine.

 

Until later becomes now.

 

 

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Re: a slightly religious thread

 

You know, I go back and forth as to whether this forum is the place for a cynical, atheist, skeptic like me. I can't decide if I'm just going to be talking to myself, or if you guys actually really need me for balance...

 

I'm sure I'll stick around as long as the conversation stays this intelligent and fun. I am, obviously, not looking in Chrono's direction there.

 

 

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RainmanTime :

 

"While I am not yet sure of the relationship to potential time travel, I am virtually certain that resonant vibrations, as representing internal momentum, is a key to "anti-gravity". Along this line, I am having some strong feelings that my professional training in control system frequency response techniques (where we try to AVOID resonance due to is large power amplification capabilities) is meant to serve me in re-discovering these principles. And perhaps the good people on this forum will also play a part?"

 

"Here we go, hang on for the ride! Synchronicity is on the increase. Not only did Zerub focus-in on this point you made, but I now want to share with you a post I made in a discussion with Wedge over on the Alternate Energies board just last night!"

 

> *The answer is always located within any given energy spectural location at it's peak capacitant output within the range of 19.5% Degrees.

 

The same can be found throught the micro to the macrouniverse from genetic cells, all the way to the 19.5% location of every planetary body you will find it's peak energy point within the grid.

 

Here is more to add to this "Interesting Article on Quantum Ether"...

 

*From Pulsed Plasma Power -

 

To the Aether Motor - A 3-part documentary on the work of Dr. Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa in 1987-2002. With introductions by Dr. H. Aspden and Dr. E. Mallove. Filled with simple demonstrations of massfree aether energy -

 

http://www.aethera.org

 

OvrLrdLegion:

 

"there is a biography on Nicola Tesla that mentions a device Tesla constructed that was capable of causing materials to disintegrate utilizing vibrations. The book tells of how Tesla demonstrated the hand held unit by attaching it to a large iron chain. The device would tap the surface of the chain and then time the next tap to increase the vibrational wave as it travelled back and forth in the iron. The witnesses of this demonstration said the chain began to shiver and shake and ultimately just disintegrated into fragments. Tesla also claimed to have caused an earthquake with it one night when his curiosity got the bettter of him and he attached it to a support beam in his home. The vibrational effects apparently went so far as to shake the entire neighborhood. Tesla stated that he got so nervous that he had almost caused a catastrophy he destroyed his device soon afterward."

 

I have complied the data from just about everything that Tesla has worked on and correlated a juxtapose of comparative experiments of expert replications therof. The one thing that stands out clear as an apparent sing underlying unified contingency that is utilized, and a byproduct of the sum of his entire work appears to fall under the catagories of accoustical resonance, light and wave guided particle acceleration. here are some examples based on John Hutchisons work...

 

The Hutchison Experiments

 

Self-taught scientist, John Hutchison, discussed his accidentally discovered Hutchison Effect which he described as a "Pandora's box" of levitation, transmuting metals, and the appearance of strange lights. The effects occurred when he set up an array of Tesla-styled equipment in experiments dating back over 20 years.

 

Metals became "jellified" during some of the experiments to the point that they turned into "surrealistic blobs," Hutchison said. He noted that the Max Planck Institute concluded that after these experiments, the metals acquired properties that allowed them to change over time, almost as if they had become alive.

 

Hutchison also imparted incidents from his life and career, which included the confiscation of his entire laboratory by the Canadian government in 1990, and his subsequent three-year stint touring and lecturing about his discoveries in Japan. A major book about Hutchison's life is being written by George Hathaway and is scheduled to be published in early 2005.

 

* >See the Hutchison Effect Video here...

 

http://www.americanantigravity.com/hutchison.shtml

 

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> *The answer is always located within any given energy spectural location at it's peak capacitant output within the range of 19.5% Degrees.

Thanks, T12. But now I hope you can help me understand a little better. I've had to make some assumptions about what some of your terms are referring to, so let me go thru them and you can tell me if I am correct, or otherwise give a better explanation of what you mean. OK?

"energy spectral location" - By spectral, I assume you refer to frequency spectrum. And by location, I assume you mean a specific frequency in the spectrum...and to take that a step further, are you referring to the resonant frequency for any body?

 

"at it's peak capacitant output" - By "peak output" I am now assuming you mean the resonant peak in the gain signature over the frequency spectrum. So on a normal Bode frequency response plot, you are referring to the first "mode" or resonancy spike...correct? And by "capacitant" I am assuming you mean that the increase in gain at the resonant frequency is a release of the internal energy stored in the body...i.e. it's capacitant (stored) energy. Is this assumption correct?

 

"within the range of 19.5% Degrees." - I am again assuming you are referring to the Bode plot frequency spectrum plots. And now when you say the "range" and give units of "Degrees" I am assuming you are referring to the phase spectrum (alternate to the gain spectrum). So you are specifying this as a +/- range of phase angle, in degrees. And if this is true, I would assume you are referring to the specific phase angle at which natural resonance peaks in the gain plot?

 

I've used standard descriptive terms from control system engineering, so I am hoping you understand what I am saying, and that I am saying the same thing that you were inferring to with your sentence. If all my assumptions are correct, then I am "with you" and willing to discuss more, and perhaps ask more questions. If any are incorrect, please set me straight so I can understand.

 

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RainmanTime

 

 

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RainmanTime:

 

"I've used standard descriptive terms from control system engineering, so I am hoping you understand what I am saying, and that I am saying the same thing that you were inferring to with your sentence. If all my assumptions are correct, then I am "with you" and willing to discuss more, and perhaps ask more questions. If any are incorrect, please set me straight so I can understand."

 

RainmanTime,

 

You are indeed following me very good thus far however, thus it is apparent that we are also in agree that the finer details must also be explored.

 

Now let's not forget to cross examine other clues here such as those that deal with diatonic ratios, the golden mean, fibranoncci sequences, and other cause & effect forces that also have a major role to play that are seemingly interconnected somehow.

 

"Time Has Come Today. . . . T I M E ! "

 

 

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You are indeed following me very good thus far however, thus it is apparent that we are also in agree that the finer details must also be explored.

Cool. I will say that I have always questioned my classical controls training, where we always stress operating any closed loop system AWAY from its resonance frequency...and when you cannot do this, to "notch out" the resonance with gain and phase compensation in the control law. I have had the intuitive feeling that with the advent of Chaos Theory, and experiments therein with non-linear control schemes, that we would come to find great efficiencies in operating at and around the natural resonance frequencies of systems when phase/state changes are required. There is a whole new revolution in control system theory ahead of us in this regard.

So now a question: If you are saying we should exploit resonance peaks, then what is the significance of the 19.5 degree phase margin region you refer to? Are you implying that 19.5 degrees of phase lead or phase lag should be employed while operating at the resonant frequency? I would think you would somehow have to affect the natural phase angle at the resonant frequency, for otherwise you know the disaster that results from unchecked resonance! :)

 

Now let's not forget to cross examine other clues here such as those that deal with diatonic ratios, the golden mean, fibranoncci sequences, and other cause & effect forces that also have a major role to play that are seemingly interconnected somehow.

Yes, geometric progression series such as these, and their relation to both harmonics and the period-doubling route to chaos are also important, I agree. So how do you think these are related to using the benefits of natural resonance to achieving the goals of either anti-gravity, or time travel?

RainmanTime

 

 

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Re: a slightly religious thread

 

Transient001,

 

I tried not to slip into a religious forum and believe some success has been achieved. However, if you were to read these following sections of the works of Mathers I believe you will understand why I brought it into the picture. ( sections 34,35,36,38,39,42,56, and 57 ). The link or address to bring you directly there is http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/Documents/Archives/Unveiled.htm

 

A word of warning...it is very interesting material and can suck one's mental focus in very quickly. The sections would be viewed out of context with the rest of Mathers works but I hope you will see why it "could' be applicable in ones quest to achieve time travel.

 

OvrLrdLegion

 

 

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Apparently you are a very astute individual that can presume one's complete understanding of a subject matter by reviewing one sentence that references such subject. If I said that "My car has headlights!"... would you assume that I have absolutely no understanding of the automobile?

 

Anybody who claims to have "finished" with any teachings regarding the Kabballah and it's attachments is full out in denial, the teachings of the kabbalah are a life long experience (and beyond ). I know many people that can recite the bible word for word, and other texts as well, but their in-depth experiences are shallow at best. To me it is all about personal experiences, not memorizing pages of print.

 

And portions of the Kabbalah are handed down by word of mouth and not even in print. The Kabbalah also has it's sub-divisions, i.e. Practical, Literal, Unwritten and Dogmatic. And I dont believe I ever mentioned which one I am studying.

 

In addition, I am a Frater of Builders of the Adtyum, which is an organization devoted to the study of the Kabbalah. Before you dish out judgements I believe you should know a little bit more of the person you are judgeing!

 

I wasn't even going to respond to your statement, but am feeling somewhat cantankerous tonight! Such is the nature of an Irishman- Gemini- :)

 

P.S. This post wasn't the first version, I toned it down a tad because I don't really know you yet, either!

 

 

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