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Why Bother? What's The Big Deal?

 

Greetings,

 

Often times, people will PM me and ask a question similar to: "Why do you take on the persona that you do, and why do you post of the topics that you do (science & spirituality) when it just leaves you open for so much ridicule?" I once journaled on this question, and ended up with a list of reasons that is quite long. To conserve SpaceTime here on the forum, I decided that I would just share two important reasons (my VIEWS, not necessarily my SCIENCE that can be demonstrated as valid). Here they are:

 

(1) BOTH Science AND Spirituality are rapidly approaching their next evolutionary cusps, as a result of the coming close of the Information Age.

 

In other posts, I describe the scientific underpinnings which explain the fractal, embedded relationships between Force, Energy, and Information. My own discovery of these relationships, along with my review of history in general, and the history of science in specific, has lead me to the conclusion I have cited in (1) above.

 

Einstein's STR and GTR, and their expression in the atomic bomb, represent theories that essentially brought to a close the Age of Energy and initiated the Age of Information. The advent of giants such as Shannon and Turing clearly brought forth theories of Information that demarcate the 1940s as the start of the Age of Information. (Interesting coincidence: My father worked for Shannon, and once met Turing, while working at Bell Labs in the 1940s).

 

Just as Einstein's summary of Energy helped cap-off the Age of Energy, it is my belief that we are facing a similar scientific, evolutionary summary that will help to further explain just what exactly the metric we call "Information" really represents. It is my belief that this summary is occurring, in parallel, all around us. I do NOT have any grandiose thoughts that I am equivalent to the next Einstein, only that I am playing a small part in helping this evolutionary summary of Information to be revealed. However, I DO believe that this evolutionary summary of Information will have a similar impact, in terms of magnitude, that Einstein's work had on our world.

 

Certainly I agree with the undeniable facts that "religion" is in trouble in our world. But any single "religion" is nothing more than a man-made (non-natural) construct. Furthermore, there are many people who believe (understand) that Spirituality is different from "religion" in that it is a result of a natural tendency of humankind to wonder "might there be something beyond what we perceive as physical?" Now, just as "religion" is at a critical juncture, so this is also true of the "religion-like" institutions of Science. Please read that correctly, as I am making an important analogy: Just as there are required dogma in "religions" (and plenty of people who are all too ready to enforce that dogma), so there are certainly elements within the scientific community who have assigned their own dogma and are determined to enforce it. For example, there are zealots who believe that we can never "prove Einstein wrong" about anything, much less expand on his knowledge. Also, do not misinterpret what I am saying. I am not claiming that "all science" has become this, and not even "most science" has become this. I only point out that there are pockets showing up in science that seek to stoke their own vested interests in certain "answers" about what is true.

 

My actions are meant to, literally, "stir the pot" that contains both misbehaving spiritualists (who create dogmatic religions) and misbehaving scientists (who create dogmatic scientific theories). And I do this by willingly, and openly demonstrating how "real science" can and does apply to "real spirituality". This process will eventually result in "disproving" some things that both Science and Spirituality hold dear. For that I do not feel sorry. It is something that simply must come to pass, sooner or later.

 

Integration of disparate dualities is a fundamental force in Nature (just look at what Nature makes possible with the terminals of a battery). This can be shown in many examples. I am simply applying this natural tendency to the disparate dualities called Science and Spirituality. And let me tell you, it can be fun :) as well as frustrating. :mad:

 

(2) There is vast, as-yet untapped, human scientific potential available via the internet which can only be tapped by the application of a highly non-linear integration of these resources.

 

Just as I will agree there are many lame-ass, unscientific people out there pushing the mystical/spiritual mumbo jumbo, and that they quite often can show NO science to substantiate their claims, I think you would also have to admit that there are also quite a few lame-ass debunkers who debunk only as a means to stroke their ego. Not only this, but many of these debunkers will hide behind what they think is their "good science" but which I can often show is simply "incomplete science" or possibly "misapplied science." In general, not ALL debunkers are effective, nor really interested in getting at the truth. Rather, they just debunk to debunk... it gives them an intellectual high.

 

Such people need to be confronted before their intelligence and brilliance (much of which could be lying dormant) can be tapped via internet cooperative efforts. The only way they can be confronted is with "above board", "in your face", and "unhidden" claims as to what the evolutionary cusp we are approaching means to what is formerly considered "mystical knowledge". Furthermore, the only way in which such confrontations may be able to get these highly intelligent people to examine and reconsider their beliefs (which are certainly formed by past experiences with BS New Agers who could not argue scientifically) is by providing them with REAL SCIENCE that they can sink their teeth into. Not only that, but presenting such REAL SCIENCE that cannot be debunked without taking on the task of debunking something that is already clearly part of our accepted, and verified body of Science.

 

As I mentioned, these are only two of many reasons why I do what I do, both here and elsewhere. There's cool stuff coming down the pike with respect to both Science and Spirituality. I'm just one messenger who happens to have a good background in science and engineering. However, I hope you and others might be interested in the science that I believe I have been able to quantify that describes the interrelationship between Force, Energy, and Information as physical metrics. There are certainly lots of different applications for this if my science and math are vetted. And with the tapping of the huge human scientific potential I discussed above, it can literally mean a radically changed world... in as little as 7 years Time! ;)

 

RMT

 

 

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Re: Why Bother? What's The Big Deal?

 

The one thing that I have stressed in many posts is the knowledge in some ancient texts. The 'meeting' of science and spirituality are definetly coming closer together.

 

Here are some exerpts( in italics ) from a text written 20 centuries ago...

 

In the time of Columbus, scientists thought only two continents existed.

 

"There exists seven geographical continents. But it is not yet known to those who mark out geographical boundaries".

 

Our modern medical science discovered the relationship between heart disease, liver and cholesterol.

 

"From the liver emerges the bile, from which come bitter drops to kill human beings... Bile overcomes the arteries of the heart and all the arteries in the limbs of the body..."

 

Science recently identified two kinds of cholesterol and fat, known as the good fats and the bad fats

 

"In the body there are pure and impure fatty parts, clean blood without waste matter and blood contaminated with waste matter..."

 

Consider that these were written 2000 years ago. The authors obviuosly had an understanding of scientific information, lost ( ignored by ) to the scientific world for centuries. Scientists think they made sudden discoveries, when the knowledge had been there already.

 

Doesnt this cause anyone to wonder what other information is contained within many ancient texts?

 

We had a discussion last year regarding these concepts, but many scoffed at the posts merely because the sources were considered 'religious'.

 

If one ws to look at the last chapter of The Bible, it is entitled, " Revelations". I think everyone is very familiar with it. If one is to consider the Bible as a history of mankind, from beginning to end, what a strange title for the end of mankinds story...'Revelations".

 

We have Genisis, and it starts out with .."In the beginning"...So why would the last chapter of mankind be entitled "Revelations".

 

From what Rainman has done is provide the answer to this question in his post. Now, for the atheists, I am not using The Bible from a religious POV. I am not saying "Turn or Burn", nor asking anyone to suddenly become a devout Christian.

 

After a certain point it seems obvious that some things go beyond chance and random occurences. There are definite patterns in creation, and this will become clearer in time. The day is coming that God will be revealed, and science just may be the vehicle that brings it all together.

 

 

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Now, for the atheists, I am not using The Bible from a religious POV.

From a purely historical analysis, the Bible is the most accurate manuscript that has ever existed.

 

There is so much to go back and look into in "light" of all of the scientific discoveries that have occurred in the last few centuries. There was never an emphasis because people didn't know then what we know now.

 

One example: It isn't very difficult to see that the continents were at one time connected. One look at a globe will show you that. But did you know that when the Bible speaks of the lineage of Noah, there is one person in particular named Peleg, a son of Eber. Now, Peleg means division. And the Bible even explicitly says why his name was Peleg:

 

Gen 10:25

 

Two sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was Joktan.

 

Now this happened just after the Flood. It makes sense. And now, with modern science, we can see that this really happened.

 

Information subsumes physical energy? I'd say this is a cool example.

 

 

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From a purely historical analysis, the Bible is the most accurate manuscript that has ever existed.

Good Post, Iridium.

 

There are many things contained in the Bible that are being "discovered" in modern times. I must take a different view on the accuracy of "THE" Bible. Many translations have been mis-used for political reasons. Some of those are from the days The Bible was 'put' together, to modern versions.

 

I.E....This is why there is controversy surrounding the role of women. If we go further back, and get into the original scripts, we find that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are totally different than our modern understanding.

 

In the original scripts, the word for Holy Spirit was feminine. So the Holy Spirit is not a male figure, but female. Is this important? Yes.

 

The one thing to stress with creation, is balance and equilibrium. Our existence hangs by a thread. Any changes in the composition of the way things are in our Universe,and it would cease to exist.

 

Thus, when looking at the Trinity, we can see this balance and equilibrium when translated properly. God/Father is both male/female ( in this context ), The Son ( Male ) and the Holy Spirit ( Female ).

 

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Also remember, Jesus said he spoke in Parables...many who didnt understand "how" to listen to The LIVING Word of God received an entirely different understanding of what Jesus actually had said.

 

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Rainman has mentioned Intention several times. This word is crucial to the developement of anyone. The first step is to have the idea, or desire for some type of action, then it is followed by intention, then action, finally there is fulfillment.

 

To make reference to a quote " Every intention which does not assert itself by actions, is vain intention. "

 

Here at TTI, Rainman has been demonstrating the link between Science and God ( Essense of Exsistence ). But, many mis-understand the Intention, and miss out on what is contained in the information posted, and slip away without building upon the foundation provided.

 

What is needed is a meeting of the minds, and to carry out the Intentions with action, and then just maybe we can fulfill our desire.

 

 

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The source for this is the original texts that the bible had been translated from---the word used for Holy Spirit was RVCh ( Ruach ). This word is feminine. As quoted in a passage from Sepher Yetzirah: " ACHTh RVCh ALHIM ChIIM: " One is SHE , the Spirit of the Elohim of Life ".

 

If you give this some thought, you will realize that this is supported by other ideals. As I mentioned, The Basic Concept of Existence is equilibrium and balance. There is a complex and lengthy description that clarifies this concept of creation. Equilibrium and balance. This is key in understanding God in Depth.

 

 

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Re: Revelations... GOD Revealed By TheCigMan

 

Since almost all of us have taken our analysis to the metaphysical and GOD...

 

I offer the following for you to ponder...

 

I believe Einstein believed in GOD...

 

I won't be surprised to find Hawking believes in GOD...

 

Information is finite in the universe... All there is has been thought of by GOD

 

GOD Channels information into true believers... Einstein, Hawking and other great 'minds'

 

If one believes in STRING THEORY...

 

There is no mass or matter only vibrating strings of energy and/or LIGHT

 

One should remember the passage from the BIBLE... I am the Lord... I am the LIGHT

 

One could come to the conclusion that GOD is everywhere and everything...

 

If one believes in this world as 'THE MATRIX' they wouldn't be far off...

 

But we are not physical beings in a computer simulated reality but...

 

Spiritual Beings <of energy> having a 'human' experience in the matrix of light we call reality...

 

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On a lighter note:

 

Creedo recently had a posting about Jesus surfing in Hawaii....

 

So Creedo... Jesus is back on earth, has reddish brown shoulder length hair and wants to surf in Hawaii?... :)

 

Creedo like John Titor appears to mention somethings although fairly wild...

 

But that something is something...

 

Someday, Creedo, when 'this' is all over... I would really like to meet you...

 

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TheCigMan

 

 

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Re: Revelations... GOD Revealed By TheCigMan

 

Hey Cigman,

 

Information is finite in the universe... All there is has been thought of by GOD

 

GOD Channels information into true believers... Einstein, Hawking and other great 'minds'

Bravo, sir! Given the areas where we know we disagree with each other, and have razzed each other, who would've thought either of us could post something that the other would agree with completely and wholeheartedly?

 

Yet that is exactly how I feel about your last post. A very thoughtful, excellent summary, if I may offer my opinion. My hat's off to you! :)

 

So given the hierachy implied by the original name I selected for this thread, would I be safe to assume that you might view God as Being a complete "field" of INTENTION? And that this Omnipresent field of INTENTION channels down Information, which is used to control Energy, which reigns over the exertion of Forces in our Physical Matrix of Massive SpaceTime?

 

Might you agree that this is a good way to explain the whole "system" of our universe?

 

RMT

 

 

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Re: Revelations... GOD Revealed By TheCigMan

 

Did you know that there are only two words in the entire bible that are capitalized in bold print?

 

The two words are..." I AM ".

 

Now, why would only these two words be emphasized?

Perhaps to stress the act of Creation as being one-in-the-same as an act of Definition? My guess.

By defining who I AM , I Willfully act to Create the next version of myself in the next Space of Time that I call My Present.

 

(I told you I was from The Present!)

 

I would like to point out here how important it is that the words in the Bible are NOT "I WAS" (Past) nor are they "I WILL BE" (Future). But rather they are spoken in the Eternal Present as:

 

I AM

 

It is a poweful statement of INTENTION, I must say. ;)

 

RMT

 

 

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Re: Revelations... GOD Revealed By TheCigMan

 

RMT,

 

My hats off to you...

 

Well Thanks, Ray... I was impressed by your postings and others about the true nature of the universe and GOD...

 

I thought it was time to reveal it to everyone in a way anyone can understand...

 

But there is good and evil in 'the matrix' of light...

 

One should ask oneself if they should be in the defense industry or working towards world peace...:)

 

As for Creedo... Ray don't you think he knows alittle too much about you... :)

 

As my identity has been compromised... By the good's NSA's computers and the evil one's Total Information Awareness lurking in a DoD bunker..

 

Let's say... I have shoulder length reddish brown hair and had a recent desire to go to Hawaii :)

 

But Jesus had his time... You should really go see the DiVinci Code Ray... I'm part French :)

 

Let's just say I'm a TRUE believer and GOD has channeled my analysis of John Titor that concerns you and DARBY so much...

 

A little more to think about...

 

TheCigMan

 

 

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The source for this is the original texts that the bible had been translated from---the word used for Holy Spirit was RVCh ( Ruach ). This word is feminine. As quoted in a passage from Sepher Yetzirah: " ACHTh RVCh ALHIM ChIIM: " One is SHE , the Spirit of the Elohim of Life ".

 

If you give this some thought, you will realize that this is supported by other ideals. As I mentioned, The Basic Concept of Existence is equilibrium and balance. There is a complex and lengthy description that clarifies this concept of creation. Equilibrium and balance. This is key in understanding God in Depth.

 

I am not knowledgeable in Hebrew...so I had to do some looking around to see what the significance of the word Ruach being feminine. I will agree that it is. But I also learned a couple of other things. It can be feminine or masculine and is used as either in scripture. So which use are we going to use to determine the masculinity or femininity of the Spirit of God?

 

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=766&

 

 

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The principle of equalibrium and balance.

 

1. God ( Whom is undefinable in human terms in entirety ) is both male/female, in the context of creation.

 

2. Son ( Whom represents the male energy or potential of creation )

 

3. Holy Spirit ( Whom represents the female energy or potential of creation

 

Now, remember, even thought we define or catagorize them as seperate, they all exist as The One. But in order for creation to maintain itself, a balance and equilbrium of the energies/frequencies must exist. The dual nature of light, the dual helix of DNA, each unseen if alone, as just one side - so to speak - , by the combination of the two, something exists.

 

Even though we identified two "sides" of the duality, there is a first. The Source of All. It contains the duality of both, completing a geometric harmony of creation & existence.

 

The Key Of Time thread will answer your question much more fully. There is a vast amount of supporting material on this, too much to post, but the core of the principles involved have been started in the other thread.

 

 

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Re: Revelations... Creedo Revealed by GOD

 

Hi CigMan,

 

But there is good and evil in 'the matrix' of light...

 

One should ask oneself if they should be in the defense industry or working towards world peace...:)

Indeed. We are often told how evil speaks in terms of mutual exclusives. :) There are many different recipes for whirrled peas and... believe it or not... there actually exist people who work in the defense industry whose goal it is to create whirrled peas. ;)

 

As for Creedo... Ray don't you think he knows alittle too much about you...

Hee hee! You might think so, but I'd say he doesn't know enough... if you catch my wave! ;)

 

Let's say... I have shoulder length reddish brown hair and had a recent desire to go to Hawaii

Cowabunga, Dude! Pipeline can be a widowmaker, but anyone who has transcended death need not worry about that little issue. :)

 

You should really go see the DiVinci Code Ray... I'm part French

I don't know whether to congratulate you or issue my condolences. I just hope the part of you that is not French is the part that bathes daily and espouses the virtues of deodorant. :)

 

Let's just say I'm a TRUE believer and GOD has channeled my analysis of John Titor that concerns you and DARBY so much...

 

A little more to think about...

God calls us all to play different parts in the Unfolding of Man. So far by my readings of Massive SpaceTime, all is proceeding as planned. :)

RMT

 

 

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Re: Revelations... Creedo Revealed by GOD

 

RMT,

 

Although this might be cryptic to other readers I apologize... It is a private matter between RMT and myself

 

"Cowabunga, Dude! Pipeline can be a widowmaker, but anyone who has transcended death need not worry about that little issue."

 

You seem to know more about me than you're letting on Ray... Are the curtains finally being pulled back... :)

 

"As for Creedo... Ray don't you think he knows alittle too much about you... "

 

"Hee hee! You might think so, but I'd say he doesn't know enough... if you catch my wave "

 

I think you understand now... 'They' are watching you... 'They' are watching me... :)

 

"God calls us all to play different parts in the Unfolding of Man. So far by my readings of Massive SpaceTime, all is proceeding as planned. "

 

I think you're on the side of 'evil' I don't think your 'handlers' have revealed 'all' to you

 

Debunkers are an easy lot to track down to their government... You made yourself a little too public...

 

TheCigMan

 

 

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Re: Revelations... Creedo Revealed by GOD

 

""" Woe, unto the man who asserts that this {----- } intends to relate ot only commonplace things and secular narratives; for if this were so, then in present times likewise the written words might be written with more attractive narratives...Now the narratives are its garments. He who thinks that these garments are the understandings themselves deserves to perish and have no share in the world to come.

 

Woe, unto the fools who look no further when they see an elegant robe! More valuable than the garment is the body which carries it, and more valuable than that, is the soul which animates the body. Fools only see the garment, the intelligent see the body, the wise see the soul, its proper being, and in time the 'upper soul ' will stand revealed.""" Zohar

 

 

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Re: Revelations... Creedo Revealed by GOD

 

CigMan,

 

I think you're on the side of 'evil' I don't think your 'handlers' have revealed 'all' to you

 

Debunkers are an easy lot to track down to their government... You made yourself a little too public...

While I do very much appreciate, and agree with, your words above on God, here we see the area where we again go our separate ways...

First of all, you've convinced yourself that you "know me" simply because you know what I do for a living and/or you know what I have posted here. Just the fact that you assume I have "handlers" makes me laugh, for if you only knew the truth...

 

Second, you clearly imply in your words above that "all debunkers work for the government." Yes, I know it sounds silly when I put it so bluntly, but if you do read the words above this is precisely what you implied with the words you wrote. However, it is quite easy to find people who debunk for various other reasons. One of the most popular reasons is when people have had a proper education in science, and they can't handle allowing people who spew pseudoscience and/or unfounded conspiracy theories to get off scott-free. There is yet another large share of debunkers who (science education or not) enjoy doing it because it gives them an intellectual high... it strokes their ego to be able to "win a debate" over someone else. If I might be so bold, two prior members of this board would seem to fall into this category. Both our old friend trollface, and our recently departed associate "jmpet" seemed more intent on just "proving Rainman wrong" (on ANY subject) than they were on really digging into the science of what is possible.

 

And then, yes, I would not doubt that there may very well be people "out here" who are paid misinformation agents. The fact that you think I am one of them is something I actually take as a compliment... for that means I "sound passable", even though it is just little old me, posting in between meetings at work or between classes at school... or while enjoying a frosty beer at home on the weekends.

 

You're a lot of fun, CigMan, but I just hope you are not seriously thinking you have a lock on "the Truth" especially as it relates to me. ;)

 

RMT

 

 

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RMT,

 

"While I do very much appreciate, and agree with, your words above on God, here we see the area where we again go our separate ways..."

 

We <God and I> have a very close relationship... :)

 

"You're a lot of fun, CigMan, but I just hope you are not seriously thinking you have a lock on "the Truth" especially as it relates to me. "

 

I hope I'm not telling tales out of school, Ray, but let me remind you of one of your private messages.

 

You said and I quote "My handlers love your work." and something about the paranoia my analysis of John Titor has created.

 

Those who are interested in creating FEAR or SUFFERING on the american public such lets say 9/11 or the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina or supposed terrorist attacks in Los Angeles are on the side of 'evil'

 

"Both our old friend trollface, and our recently departed associate "jmpet" seemed more intent on just "proving Rainman wrong" (on ANY subject) than they were on really digging into the science of what is possible."

 

Never paid much attention to them, Ray. I only find you and Creedo fascinating... :)

 

Ray your ego is out of control especially about being right. :)

 

Lets say being 'evil' makes you stupid. Example, common criminals who always get caught.

 

TheCigMan

 

 

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Re: Revelations... God Revealed by the CigMan

 

Re cig smokin man;

 

On RMT and creedo knowing too much about Ray.

 

Ray and I are really twins.Yes we're the Doublmint twins, and we like to dress up in girls clothing and cruse Hollywood parties, to see if we can get men intrested.

 

Once we get them coming on, then we b*tch out and leave them with their mouths hanging open.

 

Ray looks real nice, in nylon stockings and pumps.

 

He does a good job on shaving his legs.

 

Ray and I have odd habits, as we are both children of Hollywood.

 

If you have doubts about Ray, then you should go to where Ray works and see one of his mighty erections. Wuups?! that's the English England term, I think its construction projects?

 

Yes Ray, is great in aerospace projects, this is why all his coworkers, say that Ray makes mighty erections.

 

*Please give more money to the Cameron Diaz wealth fund, so she can buy her own African country.

 

 

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CigMan,

 

I hope I'm not telling tales out of school, Ray, but let me remind you of one of your private messages.

 

You said and I quote "My handlers love your work." and something about the paranoia my analysis of John Titor has created.

Interesting. A question to you: Would you mind explaining to me what yardstick you use to determine when someone is telling you the "truth" or when they are pulling your leg? Is it possible that you believed me when I said this because it is what you suspected all along? Yet isn't it quite possible that this was another ruse... to "throw you off my tracks"? I believe (not positive) that the quote you cite above was also accompanied by a :).

 

Those who are interested in creating FEAR or SUFFERING on the american public such lets say 9/11 or the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina or supposed terrorist attacks in Los Angeles are on the side of 'evil'

There is plenty we could explore about your own thoughts and beliefs in this regard, CigMan. I know you don't like to answer my probing questions (perhaps because you really do believe I am a government agent), but I would like to know more about how you think:

1) Would you consider me "evil" simply because I own a weapon, and am both willing and able to defend myself (rather than rely on government or law enforcement)? It would seem, like Hillary Clinton, you tend to brand the military as "evil" without distinguishing that there are individual people who comprise it.

 

2) I'm sure you don't like the PATRIOT act (either the original or the new slightly watered-down version that Bush is ready to sign). Yet if we were to do-away with such capabilities, what would you propose as an enhanced means to root-out those who would hide in our society and then execute plans to kill innocent Americans?

 

3) Do you honestly believe that Islamist extremism everywhere in the world is merely a "puppet" creation of the "secret" US government? Or will you at least admit that there is an extremist problem in the world, and that something must be done about it to prevent the resurgence of fascism a la Hitler and Mussolini? Is the regieme in Iran playing to a US government script?

 

Conspiracy theorists tend to always lean on the finger-pointing towards others, but seldom offer real, actionable solutions to today's problems. I'd like to hear more of your solutions, rather than more of your accusations. And then let's all chime in on how practical your solutions are in this day and age... or does your form of solution involve taking us all back to the stone age? :)

 

To try to stay on the topic of this thread: Explain to me YOUR Intentions, how you would manifest them as Information, how it would be used to direct Energy, and how this would induce Forces that would change the world for the better. I really do want to hear your ideas... as I have heard more than enough of your accusations. You judge me as "evil", and yet you claim to be on good terms with God. Whatever happened to "judge not lest ye be judged"? While I do not agree with your beliefs or your tactics, CigMan, I do not believe I have ever laid down a judgement of you as "evil". Correct me if I am wrong.

 

RMT

 

 

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INTENTION->Information->Energy->Force

 

If you understand the hierarchy of the four metrics defined in the subject line, then you can see how a Command/Response system is defined for how the non-physical selves (Mind, Soul, and Spirit) can interact with and affect our physical universe (which I call the Matrix of Massive SpaceTime).

 

The Command/Response propagation goes like this:

 

COMMAND EMANATION

 

1) A Being of Free Will formulates an INTENTION to Create some effect in the physical realm.

 

2) That INTENTION acts upon Information which is used to separate True from False, and align several Truths that could result in the INTENTION coming to pass.

 

3) The alignment of several Truths of Information acts upon Energy in such a way as to direct the Energy to change form in specific ways...ways dependent upon the True Information that came from INTENTION.

 

4) The changing forms of Energy impact the generation of unbalanced Forces and Moments, which describe Matter in Motion.

 

5) The Forces and Moments act upon ("stimulate") the physical Matrix of Massive SpaceTime which constitutes the "stuff" of which our universe is constructed.

 

PHYSICAL RESPONSE

 

5) Science has proven to us that physical objects in our universe (Matrix of Massive SpaceTime) will RESPOND to any stimulus. Such a stimulus is described by the unbalanced Forces and Moments that describe Matter in Motion in our physical universe. So whenever the Matrix of Massive SpaceTime is STIMULATED it will yield a Natural, PHYSICAL RESPONSE that emanates from the Matrix and moves outward (upward) to affect the levels above.

 

4) The physical response of the Matrix of Massive SpaceTime is "sensed" by the Mind, which perceives the universe in terms of unbalanced Forces and Moments that cause Matter to Move, which thereby defines Tense, or our Mind's internalized measure of Time.

 

3) The Mind's reaction to the physical response gives off its own response that emanates outward (upward) to the level of the Soul. The Soul is the level which operates on the level of Energy and how it changes in form. So the Mind's emanation of Matter-in-Motion and Tense/Time affects the Energy of the Soul.

 

2) The Soul's reaction to the Mind's response will cause a response of its own in the form of a change in the Energy state of the Soul. This change in Energy state of the Soul emanates as a response outward (upward) to the level of the Spirit. The Spirit is the primary processor of Information, and its Information state is thereby modified by the Energy response of the Soul.

 

1) Finally, the change in the Information state of the Spirit causes the spirit to emanate a response of its own. That emanation of the Spirit moves outward (upward) to the level of INTENTION.

 

The above describes the CLOSED-LOOP process of Command & Response that is the Truth about how we operate as physical beings with non-physical Spirit/Soul/Minds.

 

The physical Body is our personal Matrix of Massive SpaceTime.

 

The aphysical Mind operates through consideration of Forces and Moments.

 

The aphysical Soul operates through consideration of Energy.

 

The aphysical Spirit operates through consideration of Information.

 

The only question that remains is:

 

WHAT DO WE CALL THE STATE OF BEING AT THE LEVEL OF INTENTION?

 

I Am,

 

RMT

 

P.S. - Please falsify the above, if you can. :)

 

 

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A Sobering Consideration About Information

 

I think I've been pretty much up-beat in this thread, explaining Nature's structure of Force, Energy, Information, and Intention. But now, I think it is time to point out that ALL technologies can be used for both "good" and "evil" (as we seem to use these judgements a lot in our lives). Our own human history makes this fact evident:

 

1) Witness how mankind has learned to use FORCE against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group. FORCE application is what lead to conventional weapons.

 

2) Witness how mankind has learned to use ENERGY against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group. ENERGY application is what gave us many weapons of mass destruction (WMD) with the central WMD Energy weapon being atomic & thermonuclear bombs.

 

3) Would anyone like to discuss the means and ways that INFORMATION is already being used against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group?

 

4) Would we wish to discuss the fact that there is a much more destructive, "weaponized equivalent" of the Energy-based thermonuclear weapon in the realm of INFORMATION? Can you imagine just how much more powerful this is over and above thermonuclear weapons?

 

5) When you think of using a weapon (ANY weapon) in terms of how it can be used for BOTH "good" and "evil" (depending on how and for what reasons you CHOOSE to use that weapon), can we understand how the enemies of freedom in the world can most effectively use Information as a weapon against the free world?

 

I still maintain there is a reasonable argument to my theory that The John Titor Experiment could have been a pre-9/11 terrorist Psy Op! In fact, I will go so far as to even claim that my theory has a MUCH greater ability to be scientifically substantiated than does Titor's own story about him being a TT'er needing an IBM 5100! It is easier to debunk Titor's claims than it is to debunk my claims.

 

Not only could I explain how Titor's story was an "information weapon", but there has been a recent post by another Time Travel hoaxer here that has extremely similar elements to Titor's "information weapon". I'd even be happy to quote from that post and point out how information is being used as a weapon, to make you believe that awful things are just about to happen to the US...and thus perhaps make people worry...panic....fear...to feel terrorized.

 

We must all come to understand the deeper significance of Information as we round out the Information Age that we are living through. WW II was ultimately a war over Energy, because it ended the Age of Energy with the advent of the ultimate Energetic weapon (atom bomb). What would have happened if the side of "evil" in WW II was the first to use that weapon? What will happen if the side of "evil" in our current worldwide conflicts becomes the first to use equivalent Information weapons?

 

Something to think about with respect to ANYONE'S Information and Propaganda.

 

RMT

 

 

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4) Would we wish to discuss the fact that there is a much more destructive, "weaponized equivalent" of the Energy-based thermonuclear weapon in the realm of INFORMATION? Can you imagine just how much more powerful this is over and above thermonuclear weapons?

I think that it would be more powerful in that it can target the correct individuals without taking out half a country. And it can be untraceable.

 

It can target certain demographics and sections of society that are deemed the best recipients of the information. And can lead to results far more efficiently then a crude bomb can.

 

If you get a certain section of society conditioned to take the desired response by the controlled release of information then you could end up minipulating an entire population potentially. We all have different responses (or outward expressions) to events and informtion. Yet we all tick to the same clock underneath (if you read between the lines). You just need to know which different profiles of people need what specific information and in what context to achieve the correct unified response.

 

For example - to get a timetravel enthusiasts resonating to the the fear of civil war. You'd need to work on an information level that best suits ther likely personality (personally i would class the soul as more directly connected to the personality - not the spirit). Many are going to accept a story of a time traveller because they desire it. If that time traveller is spouting about Civil war, as they accept the time traveller - they start to resonate with the fear response to the information. As more people discuss it - it starts to snowball. Especially if you back it up with suedo-science

 

Someone, who likes to read about aliens, and such a person with a submissive personality might be led to suspect that a rogue planet is about to kill us all. Throw in a couple of high profile delusional channelers and you have a potentially another few thousand roped in. Resonating at the same level as the timetravel enthusiasts, but under a different context.

 

after all a nation of deluded people expecting to be wiped out at some piont, are a weak nation.

 

If you created montauk disinformation - you could generate whole chuncks of society that fear the 'secret' government. Making more and more people suspicious of their elected leaders. This is always a valid ingreedent in a civil war soup.

 

parents can be led to believe that Computer games and music are going to turn there kids into gun touting hoddies. And thus Censorship is more readily accepted by a larger demographic of the voting public (i.e. spread the information and get a desired response, If you want you intention forced on someone else - you just need to give them the information to bring them round to your point of view).

 

If you really knew your metaphyics and had the right amount of influence, you could engineer what ever reality you wanted people to buy into. As long as you know the steps that Ray mentions in the correct detail and application

 

Of course conspiriacy theorists are the easiest faction of society to achieve this with. They spread everything like a disease to all others. Some people will probably laugh that this reply though. And i would say that they are only qualified to so if they know the implicaitons of the original information this thread.

 

'Reality' is brought about by intention and this a response to information.

 

 

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