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Bibbidy Boppity Boop!

 

Ah-ah sqeek, ah-ah snort.

 

{grunt-grunt-grunt}

 

Ohhhhh boy! HERE IT COMES!!!

 

Eeeeeaaahhhhhhhhh!

 

{Ploop-Splash}

 

AHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

Now take your meds, Warrior. Your humor really bores me. I prefer intellectual humor, which it does not appear you are capable of contriving.

 

Cha-cha, La-La... Oh, is your slip showing, Warrior? Creeds can help you with that! :devil: :P

 

Get out your translator! You will need it for the above!

 

RMT

 

 

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The question was: 2) I do not always tell the truth. (True/False)

 

Your answer was:

 

false, i dont think any single human ALWAYS tells teh truth, and yes big guy that includes you

So by answering FALSE, you are then claiming that you DO always tell the truth! (Please read and answer carefully). Again, I will have to go with your answer (FALSE) which then means you claim to always tell the truth. (Gee, this is going much better and faster than I expected!)

RMT

 

 

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you know what, im feed up with you, go ahead, do not believe what i am saying, im sick of you, you believe that everythign i say is not true, go ahead, i really dont mind, and tell all your little firends as well that im a fake, i REALLY dont care, you are jsut a narrow minded guy who cant get a life or even believe for a second, so you know what, by administareing that test you wont believe me anwyays so why waste both of our times, jsut leave me alone ,and nag on some otehr person you think is fake and leave me here to talk to people who are intrested, for you are just here to use all ytour power to disprove me, leave that for other people to decide wether i am or not, they are grown up to you knw, they dont need you to lead them anywhereby the hand and show them that YOU think

 

 

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you know what, im feed up with you, go ahead, do not believe what i am saying, im sick of you, you believe that everythign i say is not true, go ahead, i really dont mind, and tell all your little firends as well that im a fake, i REALLY dont care, you are jsut a narrow minded guy who cant get a life or even believe for a second, so you know what, by administareing that test you wont believe me anwyays so why waste both of our times, jsut leave me alone ,and nag on some otehr person you think is fake and leave me here to talk to people who are intrested, for you are just here to use all ytour power to disprove me, leave that for other people to decide wether i am or not, they are grown up to you knw, they dont need you to lead them anywhereby the hand and show them that YOU think

I asked you to take a personality test. You agreed. You read about the basis of it. We have not even completed question #3 out of 75 questions, and you are already throwing in the towel? That, in and of itself, says a great deal about your personality. And BTW, you might like to know that even in answering two questions you have provided data. Your answer to question #2 certainly shows that you read things at a very superficial level. This indicates a shallow thinker, one who is easily swayed by opinion and not disposed to uncovering facts for themselves.

 

Power? What power do I have in this forum that you do not also have? Unless you are referring to my intellect, which is another product of my age and experience.

 

Perhaps we should post-up a poll to see if other forum readers think you should continue to answer questions in the personality test? Would you like to do that or should I?

 

If you go back and read my initial response to you in this thread, you will see I spelled it out quite plainly to you...and either you ignored it, or you took it at the normally superficial level that you take other things presented to you:

 

My big question is how long you intend to stay around so that the likes of myself, and others, can rip you and your hoax to shreds?

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You poor, abused, 16 year old "child" (AS IF!)... I just hope you came here ready to accept MORE abuse, because you are getting no sympathy from me, and you can plan on getting a LOT more abuse given the story you have chosen to spin here.

Well done, justhere. You have folded in extremely short order. Now let's see how some others feel about your hoax. Folks?

 

RMT

 

 

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Hello again Ray.

 

Allow the TTA to step right in here for a moment. I have a few things to clear up on another thread later on, and I thought I make a quick statement here before I posted there.

 

In all sincerity Ray, I am sad that you aspire a spiritual path, yet fall short of it every time you get so personal. Really, the wisdom obtained in your goal is lost in it's pursuits.

 

There is no need for you to be so vile and cruel to this kid... You're the only one reacting in a hostile manner to his imagination. What possible harm can he possibly be doing to you?

 

Yes, I know. Somehow you've justified it to being a concept or a form of terrorism.

 

But please correct me if I'm wrong Ray. But don't you see a parallel to your own radical behavior, as to those who adamantly and coarsely demand to be heard from others?

 

I think the one difference is, that you can infer it. Can't you?

 

TTA

 

P.S. Bytheway, I referenced the Offensive Behavior on the Forums thread. Here's a novel idea, and I know it may be a bit of a challenge for you, but how about posting according to it mandate? Can you do that Ray? Or is fighting mean and nasty with the façade of scientific enlightenment your only approach to hope to win a debate?

 

 

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Well, well. The TTA returns, and this time as the morality enforcer?

 

Bytheway, I referenced the Offensive Behavior on the Forums thread. Here's a novel idea, and I know it may be a bit of a challenge for you, but how about posting according to it mandate? Can you do that Ray? Or is fighting mean and nasty with the façade of scientific enlightenment your only approach to hope to win a debate?

Referring to this, are we?
But if someone - anyone - is being offensive to another poster, then that goes against the general terms of this forum. And I WILL deal with that. If you feel you are being attacked and are unable to find a solution, I encourage you to contact Roel, the moderator, or myself.

So did this "kid" contact Roel or MOP? But beyond this, I wonder why it is that certain people, such as Creedo, seem to be given a free-pass to be offensive? Yes, indeed, I can certainly take great offense to a lot of the crap that Creedo posts about me. In fact, his response to this very post of yours calls me a fool. Is that not offensive? Perhaps I should report him to MOP? Oh, that's right... I already have...several times... and nothing comes of it. Guess Creedo is "special". And that is an understatement.

There is no need for you to be so vile and cruel to this kid... You're the only one reacting in a hostile manner to his imagination.

So now we judge that debunking is being "vile, cruel, and hostile"? Interesting. And now, with TTA stepping in here, is this an indication that you are ready to divulge that you are now the owner (and perhaps MOP) of TTI? Is that what you are insinuating with this intervention?

Please. Show me where I have called this "kid" any name anywhere near as offensive as what Creedo has called me. Am I "coarse"? You betcha. But in fact, I think there may be some "friends" of yours out there in this forum (and beyond) who might judge you as cruel, or vile, or even hostile. Of course you might deny their judgments... so why should I accept your judgments of myself?

 

One thing that I wonder is if the TTA (or Javier Cortez) has ever, without permission from the user/owner, hacked into another's computer or computer account? Ethics can run quite deep. I would not presume to judge whether or not you have actually done any hacking, but I think the TTA knows whether or not he has.

 

Much like yourself, the poster justhere willfully agreed to my questioning, and also much like yourself, he bailed out after only a few questions. And yet you paint this as a judgment on myself? I am simply debunking and seeking to reveal the poster's intentions. Is this illegal, or offensive behavior? If so, then debunkers of the WWW should beware. Maybe we should organize a debunkers rights' protest?

 

Forgive me Father TTA, for it has been determined (by Father TTA) that I have sinned.

 

RMT

 

 

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Ray is a fool. He should afteral be destroyed. But isnt this in the script?

Creedo,

I will now go on public record to claim that your first sentence above is offensive to me. You shall be reported to MOP. If you are smart, you will do your normal act of deleting your offensive comments after-the-fact.

 

Second, and more importantly, your second sentence could clearly be construed as a threat to my personal well-being. Just to clarify, are you threatening me, Creedo?

 

If there is going to be a Crusade to hold RainmanTime to some given standard, then perhaps what is good for the Goose is also good for the Creedo?

 

RMT

 

 

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Well, well. The TTA returns, and this time as the morality enforcer?

Yes Ray, I am back.

 

For a moment anyway.

 

Morality enforcer? That's a good one.

 

I hope you don't think that this means I am suggesting that I am :).

 

So did this "kid" contact Roel or MOP? But beyond this, I wonder why it is that certain people, such as Creedo, seem to be given a free-pass to be offensive? Yes, indeed, I can certainly take great offense to a lot of the crap that Creedo posts about me. In fact, his response to this very post of yours calls me a fool. Is that not offensive? Perhaps I should report him to MOP? Oh, that's right... I already have...several times... and nothing comes of it. Guess Creedo is "special". And that is an understatement.

Join the club Ray. I can't say I am too fond of him either.

 

So now we judge that debunking is being "vile, cruel, and hostile"? Interesting.

The facade in wish you use to justify your malevolent approach is not scientific as you claim and want others to believe it is. Nor is it inducive to your spiritual enlightenment, which you also claim to be highly knowledgeable in as well.

 

So which is it Ray? What do you want to believe, verses what you want others reading your post to believe?

 

And now, with TTA stepping in here, is this an indication that you are ready to divulge that you are now the owner (and perhaps MOP) of TTI? Is that what you are insinuating with this intervention?

Is this your scientific conclusion Ray, your "hypothesizes?"

 

Take the post for what it says, not for what you'd wish or think it means.

 

Please. Show me where I have called this "kid" any name anywhere near as offensive as what Creedo has called me.

Ok... what has Creedo called you? I don't know your history with him.

 

Am I "coarse"? You betcha.

:confused: Do you find this characteristic something to be proud of?

 

But in fact, I think there may be some "friends" of yours out there in this forum (and beyond) who might judge you as cruel, or vile, or even hostile. Of course you might deny their judgments... so why should I accept your judgments of myself?

Why would I deny their judgments of me? If they judged me, obviously I might have done something inconsiderate to them, to deserve it.

 

I've apologized to those I have hurt. Whether they accept it and believe I am sincere is not up to me.

 

One thing that I wonder is if the TTA (or Javier Cortez) has ever, without permission from the user/owner, hacked into another's computer or computer account? Ethics can run quite deep. I would not presume to judge whether or not you have actually done any hacking, but I think the TTA knows whether or not he has.

Again, is that your scientific conclusion? Your "hypothesizes?"

 

Much like yourself, the poster justhere willfully agreed to my questioning, and also much like yourself, he bailed out after only a few questions.

Yes, and much like my self, was subject to the description of the character described in my post above.

 

And yet you paint this as a judgment on myself? I am simply debunking and seeking to reveal the poster's intentions. Is this illegal, or offensive behavior? If so, then debunkers of the WWW should beware. Maybe we should organize a debunkers rights' protest?

Seriously Ray... no one knows but you what crawls up your back and feeds you lines to spin this mean spirited nature of yours as something bona fide and justified.

 

Forgive me Father TTA, for it has been determined (by Father TTA) that I have sinned.

 

RMT

And the intention for that statement was what?

 

Please don't make this any harder then it needs to be Ray. Swallow that pride without having to lash back childishly. Which also goes to everyone else.

 

TTA

 

P.S. Polling is open: http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ttclaims&Number=39681&Forum=ttclaims&Words=TTA_01&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1week&Main=18972&Search=true#Post39681

 

 

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TTA,

 

I should again make it clear to you that I have studied the TTA quite thoroughly. As long as the TTA is comfortable with someone using the TTA's own tactics on the TTA, then feel free to continue in your comfort.

 

I hope you don't think that this means I am suggesting that I am

Why? Does the TTA have a concern about what people think about him, and his actions? It would seem from this statement that the TTA does care about what people think about him.

 

So which is it Ray? What do you want to believe, verses what you want others reading your post to believe?

Ahhh, yes. Classic TTA is what I would call this. You seem to believe yourself to be quite good in directing other people's beliefs for them. For example, in this case you set out only two possibilities. When in reality, no one is bound to accept only one of the two possibilities that you have outlined here. You are aware, I would hope, that there is an entire, infinite range of what I, or others here, may believe about how either you or I act?

 

Is this your scientific conclusion Ray, your "hypothesizes?"

Strawman alert. In my studies of the TTA, I have found a preponderance for the usage of the strawman argument. If the TTA is as advanced as he thinks himself to be, then the TTA will understand that one does not respond in kind to strawman arguments. IOW, you are the one coming to conclusions and judgments, and therefore hypothesizing. I have simply asked you a question, and you have slyly (or so you think) avoided answering it by setting up a strawman. Did you think I would not notice this?

 

Take the post for what it says, not for what you'd wish or think it means.

You mean like the strawman argument that you have setup? See, you can recognize the tactic when it is used!

 

Ok... what has Creedo called you? I don't know your history with him.

Again it would seem that you think you are being sly here. This was a challenge for you to show me where I have called this "kid" an offensive name. If you can't show me such evidence, then why not just admit that your charge is without merit?

 

Do you find this characteristic something to be proud of?

I don't believe I ever made that claim, no. But what we see here is yet another attempt for you to shift the purpose of my words. To be frank, the purpose of my words was the "own up" to something about myself that I know is true. In my reading of the TTA, this is something that the TTA has often extolled other people to do. So I am doing this. I am admitting that I am, indeed, course. Do you now have a problem with me owning up to my own words, which are used for my own purpose?

Yes, perhaps we should talk about purpose. For if my reading of the TTA is correct, the TTA has often told people that he acts in certain ways for specific purposes...most often to "help people learn something about themselves." So (to attempt your own tactic of strawman): Do you wish to deny me my own purpose in taking certain tones, as a means to show you something about yourself?

 

I've apologized to those I have hurt. Whether they accept it and believe I am sincere is not up to me.

Perhaps a quote is best to reply to this statement from the TTA:

"That's the trouble with being insincere, you have to make up for it later, and it's so hard when you know you don't want to, but what choice do you have? It's natural to be afraid of the unknown now, but at least your no longer lying to your self and adding to the deception, and that ain't half bad."

 

Again, is that your scientific conclusion? Your "hypothesizes?"

Again you attempt another strawman. Not going to work with me, friend. I believe what I said was quite clear, and I was purposeful in my use of the lead-in words "One thing that I wonder..." Are you catching on now how your tactics will not work with me?

 

Yes, and much like my self, was subject to the description of the character described in my post above.

That would be your opinion, and a judgment if I might add.

 

Seriously Ray... no one knows but you what crawls up your back and feeds you lines to spin this mean spirited nature of yours as something bona fide and justified.

Well now... this is quite an admission from the great TTA. I believe I can find statements from the TTA where he crows about his ability to "read people". So here you say "no one knows but you..." Does that mean that you are denying the capability you claim to have in this quote?

"From my knowledge of being capable of doing this, I know that when I enter anothers mind I become that person. I feel what that person is thinking, I don't just know it, I become a part of it and flow with it. "

 

And the intention for that statement was what?

You are the one who seems to be so good (and quick) at judging others. What does your judgment tell you about this?

 

Please don't make this any harder then it needs to be Ray. Swallow that pride without having to lash back childishly.

Actually, I believe it is you who are making this harder than it needs to be, and that is supported by the fact that you were the one who initiated this apparant attack on me. Do you have a problem with me stating the truth about you here? Wait... perhaps once again the sagely words of the TTA can help us in this quandary:

"if maintaining your façade matters that much to you, why post at all? Ask Pamela, she can attest to how long someone can fool people for so long. In the end, they usually leave because they know they can't keep up the disguise. Just some constructive criticism to make you aware of the reality of the situation."

 

Obviously by now, if the TTA is astute as he has claimed himself to be in the past, the TTA will see what is transpiring here. May I again remind you that it is you who have initiated this action against me. And I shall not let you, nor the other readers, ever forget this. I learned this tactic from someone whom I have studied in depth.

 

Interesting how you come back to the forum at this specific time, when I am in the process of debunking the latest person who is attempting to propagate a negative view of the future. Is there some underlying reason for why you have come back now?

 

RMT

 

 

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RMT,

 

Personally, I do not believe that you stepped over the line at all. If these alleged Time Travelers want to post on this forum and try to make us believe that they are from our future, then so be it. Their stories will get debunked unless they can come back with the PROOF of being a time traveler. I find it hard to believe that someone can travel through time and not know anything about the machine he/she traveled in and/or time travel itself. Imagination is one thing but improper grammar, lack of sufficient evidence/support/storyline and the dodging of questions asked by experts is another.

 

The people/liars that come on here claiming to be something they are not should be delt with in the way it has been handled by RMT. If you want imagination, maybe we should open up an imagination thread so that these people won't need to pretend that they are TT's. They will still be able to make up their stories and it will then eliminate the debunking of them! Some of these stories are pretty good and could gather some interest if they weren't all played out to be REAL time travel stories.

 

-Roo

 

PS- It's getting every close to blueberry season RMT. As I drive through town, I see the blueberrys getting riper!

 

 

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I should again make it clear to you that I have studied the TTA quite thoroughly. As long as the TTA is comfortable with someone using the TTA's own tactics on the TTA, then feel free to continue in your comfort.

Boast all you want. But your retaliation is clearly evident in your post.

 

Why? Does the TTA have a concern about what people think about him, and his actions? It would seem from this statement that the TTA does care about what people think about him.

One may even say the same thing about you Ray and your unwillingness to let things go. Especially when lured to a corner by the TTA or anyone else willing to take a stance against you.

 

I believe I made it clear the last time, when I acknowledged I did not have very many fans here. So sorry, but your wrong RMT.

 

The TTA can easily leave and let you have the last word if that's what's concerning you so much. I don't depend on posting on a daily basis to rack up an excess of posts, and boast about how scientific my approch is, like yours is!

 

Ahhh, yes. Classic TTA is what I would call this. You seem to believe yourself to be quite good in directing other people's beliefs for them. For example, in this case you set out only two possibilities. When in reality, no one is bound to accept only one of the two possibilities that you have outlined here. You are aware, I would hope, that there is an entire, infinite range of what I, or others here, may believe about how either you or I act?

Why the incorrigible approach RMT?

 

Really, your making a bigger deal then needs to be made.

 

Did I offend you?

 

Strawman alert. In my studies of the TTA, I have found a preponderance for the usage of the strawman argument. If the TTA is as advanced as he thinks himself to be, then the TTA will understand that one does not respond in kind to strawman arguments. IOW, you are the one coming to conclusions and judgments, and therefore hypothesizing. I have simply asked you a question, and you have slyly (or so you think) avoided answering it by setting up a strawman. Did you think I would not notice this?

I don't bother to think about what you may be thinking Ray.

 

Take my approach as cautiously as you want if that's how you feel about it.

 

You mean like the strawman argument that you have setup? See, you can recognize the tactic when it is used!

Did you use that rebuttal while in the school yard with the other kids too?

 

Again you attempt another strawman. Not going to work with me, friend. I believe what I said was quite clear, and I was purposeful in my use of the lead-in words "One thing that I wonder..." Are you catching on now how your tactics will not work with me?

And you should be catching on to the fact that I don't care. "Debunk" all you want Ray, really when all is said and done, people will still not like you or me.

 

I said:

 

Do you find this characteristic something to be proud of?

You said:

 

I don't believe I ever made that claim, no. But what we see here is yet another attempt for you to shift the purpose of my words. To be frank, the purpose of my words was the "own up" to something about myself that I know is true. In my reading of the TTA, this is something that the TTA has often extolled other people to do. So I am doing this. I am admitting that I am, indeed, course.

I don't think I was claiming that you did find it something to be proud! I was asking you a question. It was a challege to see if you could be honest with your self.

 

Do you now have a problem with me owning up to my own words, which are used for my own purpose?

Nope, no problem. Did you think I had a problem?

 

Yes, perhaps we should talk about purpose. For if my reading of the TTA is correct, the TTA has often told people that he acts in certain ways for specific purposes...most often to "help people learn something about themselves." So (to attempt your own tactic of strawman): Do you wish to deny me my own purpose in taking certain tones, as a means to show you something about yourself?

What are you talking about?

 

If I am reading RMT correctly, you always have to have some nitch to justify your actions.

 

I said:

 

apologized to those I have hurt. Whether they accept it and believe I am sincere is not up to me.

You said:

 

Perhaps a quote is best to reply to this statement from the TTA:

 

"That's the trouble with being insincere, you have to make up for it later, and it's so hard when you know you don't want to, but what choice do you have? It's natural to be afraid of the unknown now, but at least your no longer lying to your self and adding to the deception, and that ain't half bad."

What was your point?

 

You take something I said many years ago as current to what I just said yesterday?

 

I said:

 

Yes, and much like my self, was subject to the description of the character described in my post above.

You said:

 

That would be your opinion, and a judgment if I might add.

Here's another one of your tactics Ray. Deny the truth when it's blindly facing you, and say it's someone's "opinion" and "judgment." But when it's the other way around, you don't have a problem with that, do you?

 

You persona is so double-standard here on the threads. Your own disagreements for the way others act and wish for them to see, is the very same things you deny to see.

 

Well now... this is quite an admission from the great TTA. I believe I can find statements from the TTA where he crows about his ability to "read people". So here you say "no one knows but you..." Does that mean that you are denying the capability you claim to have in this quote?

I have not posted in 3 yrs. Since that time, my ability to "read people" has brodened. You can read anything you want to read Ray. If you want to read people too, I don't care. But I do care when you pick on people who have done nothing to you, and you ruthlessly use your "justified intentions" to make your point.

 

You are the one who seems to be so good (and quick) at judging others. What does your judgment tell you about this?

Is that a complement Ray?

 

Actually, I believe it is you who are making this harder than it needs to be, and that is supported by the fact that you were the one who initiated this apparant attack on me.

Ray, I only stopped your attack of this kid and told the truth. No one has attacked you, but your self.

 

Do you have a problem with me stating the truth about you here? Wait... perhaps once again the sagely words of the TTA can help us in this quandary:

 

"if maintaining your façade matters that much to you, why post at all? Ask Pamela, she can attest to how long someone can fool people for so long. In the end, they usually leave because they know they can't keep up the disguise. Just some constructive criticism to make you aware of the reality of the situation."

First of all, I want to apologize to Pamela for saying that about her many years ago. I was wrong to have said that about you Pamela, I know you may never forgive me, but I just hope you know I am sorry.

 

Second, you want to dig up history about me that I've already accepted, just to make your self feel better Ray? You don't see me living in the past, bringing up past post from you. Come on, is this your scientific approach at it's best?

 

Obviously by now, if the TTA is astute as he has claimed himself to be in the past, the TTA will see what is transpiring here. May I again remind you that it is you who have initiated this action against me. And I shall not let you, nor the other readers, ever forget this. I learned this tactic from someone whom I have studied in depth.

Relentless aren't you? You started off your post by first insinuating that I care what the readers have to say about me, and now you feel adamantly about making them aware of your feelings!

 

Well it's your vacation Ray. It's up to you how you want to spend it. Bring up things I've said from the past, or discuss the here and now.

 

Interesting how you come back to the forum at this specific time, when I am in the process of debunking the latest person who is attempting to propagate a negative view of the future. Is there some underlying reason for why you have come back now?

Yes I know you take your work very personal and seriously. Perhaps a little to much. You don't care that this kid is just a kid do you Ray? You need some serious help dealing with some of your past issues my friend.

 

Feel threated if you don't subjegate a negative view of the future don't you Ray? You feel a complusion to shove an elightnened one down everyone's throat instead.

 

Metaphorically speaking of course.

 

Have a nice day.

 

TTA

 

 

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Yes, indeed it has. It went from a debunking of our latest TT claimant (justhere) to an attack on me. And who is responsible for that?

Yes, we can all hear the violins playing in the background Ray.

 

Poor Ray had to call his hunting expedition short, on the account of the TTA showing up and ruining it for him.

 

TTA

 

 

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lol this thread has digressed a bit

 

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Yes, indeed it has. It went from a debunking of our latest TT claimant (justhere) to an attack on me. And who is responsible for that?

mabye it has disgressed since you are arguing with every other person on this forum dear

 

 

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It would seem that you have not considered just how deeply I have studied the TTA. Do you think I do not know all your twisting tactics? Do you think I do not know what you are doing? Think again.

 

Well it's your vacation Ray. It's up to you how you want to spend it. Bring up things I've said from the past, or discuss the here and now.

And again, you set up a polemic... as if these are the only two options. Perhaps, just perhaps, one can apply lessons from the past TO the here and now. That would not follow the polemic you set up.

Yes, it is my vacation. And as much as I know you wish to continue your little assault on me, the rain has cleared and I am now venturing on 5 days diving out on the reef. Needless to say I will not be connected to the net.

 

Roorichard's words have captured my thoughts on the issue of this thread quite well. If you come here spewing the same, tired, unverifiable claptrap wanting people to believe, you leave yourself open to "coarse" debunking. And let me point out that just because someone claims to be a "kid" in this forum, does not in fact verify that this is so. For all we know, that "kid" could well be the TTA, and this reply from the TTA to defend the "kid" just another part of the RPG.

 

For being the TimeTravelActivist that you claim to be, you of all people should exhibit some concern about polluting potential futures. That is one of the tenants of what your "activism" is all about, am I right?

 

I'm gone for diving, but not gone for good.

 

RMT

 

 

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and im yet to hear anything of intrest here, no questions, jsut acusations of what is true and what is false, if i wished to to be accused of lieing id go to a court room, not a forum crowded with a bunch of 40+ year old people who have no lives and jsut sit here all day accusing and lashing out at people, i would like all of them to stop, and people who are truely intrested to then talk to me, if you dont believe me, than thats a AWESOME opinion, stick to it and you will go far, jsut dont btoher me with it, keep it to yourself and MOVE ON!!!! but if you are intrested, and truely do care to wish to know of what i speak of, then ask me, i dont wish to deal with, obviously immature adults, which i have noticed infect this place (i dont mean to all, please note that i am not steroetyping everyone)

 

 

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It would seem that you have not considered just how deeply I have studied the TTA. Do you think I do not know all your twisting tactics? Do you think I do not know what you are doing? Think again.

Again with the boasting of studying the TTA.

 

Do you not think anyone reading your posts knows about your "OWN" twisting tactics by now?

 

Do you think I do not know who you are Ray?

 

And again, you set up a polemic... as if these are the only two options. Perhaps, just perhaps, one can apply lessons from the past TO the here and now. That would not follow the polemic you set up.

What are you talking about Ray? Really, this has stopped being "scientific" along time ago... get a grip with your self.

 

Yes, it is my vacation. And as much as I know you wish to continue your little assault on me, the rain has cleared and I am now venturing on 5 days diving out on the reef. Needless to say I will not be connected to the net.

Why would I want to assault anyone on here again Ray?

 

Perhaps in your little world of doubt and insecurity you feel that anyone who has enough fortitude to stand up against you is wrong. And you tirelessly have to make the case to prove it, by which ever means possible.

 

Except not this time, and you know it!

 

Roorichard's words have captured my thoughts on the issue of this thread quite well. If you come here spewing the same, tired, unverifiable claptrap wanting people to believe, you leave yourself open to "coarse" debunking.

How ironic!

 

Much how the debunking the TTA has been doing here exposing your righteous "intentions."

 

And let me point out that just because someone claims to be a "kid" in this forum, does not in fact verify that this is so. For all we know, that "kid" could well be the TTA, and this reply from the TTA to defend the "kid" just another part of the RPG.

Assuming he was a kid though, your behavior was uncalled for.

 

I don't know how you were treated as a kid Ray, and who knows perhaps that's why your the way you are today as a result.

 

There is no need to breed hatred and unrest in our young.

 

Perhaps someday in your spiritual path you'll come to this realization.

 

For being the TimeTravelActivist that you claim to be, you of all people should exhibit some concern about polluting potential futures. That is one of the tenants of what your "activism" is all about, am I right?

Ray, you don't know who the TTA is, you only know who he was.

 

You continuously want to push your point, I know... but we are not the same Ray. My approach may have been harsh and coarse at one time many years ago, but I have out grown those tendencies in my youth.

 

It seems you've yet to grow up and play fair with everyone else.

 

I'm gone for diving, but not gone for good.

Don't worry Ray... I wasn't expecting that you'd be gone for good.

 

In all sincerity, I hope you have a nice time :).

 

TTA

 

 

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and im yet to hear anything of intrest here, no questions, jsut acusations of what is true and what is false, if i wished to to be accused of lieing id go to a court room, not a forum crowded with a bunch of 40+ year old people who have no lives and jsut sit here all day accusing and lashing out at people, i would like all of them to stop, and people who are truely intrested to then talk to me, if you dont believe me, than thats a AWESOME opinion, stick to it and you will go far, jsut dont btoher me with it, keep it to yourself and MOVE ON!!!!

Bingo!

 

* Olly dusts off the old Lugers *

 

And you say this, because the unplanned argument is now boring you. Starting to get frustrated that your little game isnt quite going to plan? Only (and this is the only mildly clever thing you have done thus far) you try to regain the stage, with a rant that trys to take the moral 'high-ground' to give the illusion of a superior intellect. Infact, it actually reads like a kid screaming for his parents to look at him when they've long lost interest in his intentions. You came on here in a VERY sad attempt to try and get a perverted five minutes of fame with a fake story. I bet in your head, you imagined everyone on the edge of there seats, didnt you? With each answer you give more brilliant then the last?!! Oh my, how mistaken you were!

 

Here are the facts (which might i add, speak volumes for themsleves);

 

-You are 16.

 

-You claim to be part of and government Time travel conspiracy.

 

-Yours, is an unwilling participation and would suggest either (and it can ONLY be one OR both of these) Mind Control and/or direction and gaurd that is under heavy force.

 

-Despite this you are allowed to 'socialise' your trauma to the world via the "information super highway"

 

-Despite your forceful guard, you would like us to casually fall in line and ask questions about the future and time travel etc, the latter of which, you have already stated you know nothing about?

 

>What are they using on you, a prisoner, to keep you so chilled then? LSD? or did they just go for the valium instead?

 

So, what - how does it work - i think i missed something here...does a member of Delta Force sit with you as you type, helping you to use spell check correctly as you expose their operation to the entire world.

 

Well regardless, with this pathetic story now fortunately lost in an argument that is a.) more interesting, and b.) has destroyed and real credibility to both this thread and your story...

 

I eagerly await the next young gun...

 

* spins lugers before reholstering *

 

Jeez, 3 pages on this crap?

 

We are fast approaching an era of scientific and spiritual evolution, where this section of the forum really could have been an interesting place. If i were a humble Time Traveller, i would not currently bother posting anything within this [now] pit of BS. And yes, its people like you that have destroyed it. There are many other forums to get your kicks on, this is one of the last genuinly productive TT forums that includes both 'real' TT science and TT philosphy.

 

I think this is why the '40 year olds' (who incidently, help make the fewer - above - positives a reality) have lost patience with people like you. Why don't you write a letter to Peter Moon or something....i'm sure he'd be more interested. Infact he'd probably add some of his own 'facts' to your 'fancinating' mix too.

 

Kind regards,

 

Olly

 

 

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