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So by my reckoning, then, the full solution to the poem is as follows :

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = DEADLIEST WARM

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = DEAD JIHAD HUMAN AMMO

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = GERM JOINS FORMED JUG

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = ENABLED SILOS ARISE

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

If the above is the correct solution, and if Zeshua is the real deal, then we have acquired a little new information about our future above and beyond what Zeshua had previously shared with us.

 

Line one suggests that multiple independent disasters are immanent. But we kind of knew that already from what Zeshua has told us previously.

 

Line two suggests that Sharia Law will soon become more of a problem to the world than it currently is. To my mind that means that Iraq will likely succumb to the pressure of becoming an Islamic state much like Iran and Saudi Arabia. This would seem to be new information not previously disclosed by Zeshua.

 

Line three suggests that the coming worldwide financial collapse will hit America particularly hard. We knew that already too.

 

Line four suggests that global warming will produce more summers like the deadly European summer of 2004 and the deadly American hurricane season of 2005. I'm not sure Zeshua predicted that specifically, but pretty much the whole world is already expecting something along those lines anyway, so that's not new info either.

 

Line five seems to be redundant with line three.

 

Line six suggests that Islamic terrorism continues. No surprise there.

 

Given that every year has some bad earthquakes, line seven suggests that the ones in our near future are going to be worse than normal. Some have been predicting that, but again I'm not sure Zeshua was among them until now.

 

Line eight suggests that Iran gets nuclear weapons. That's a biggie. Zeshus had NOT said that until now.

 

Line nine suggests that open full-scale warfare between nations breaks out in the Middle East. Zeshua implied as much previously.

 

Line ten suggests that bird flu is indeed going to be a problem after all. Zeshua already said it would in her previous predictions.

 

Line eleven suggests that global warming ends up making things cooler instead of warmer, even in tropical areas. I'm not sure Zeshua said that specifically, but I seem to recall Titor saying something like that.

 

Line twelve may just be a poetic way of framing the above predictions, or it may suggest that other undefined geophysical "earth changes" take place as a consequence of the above disasters.

 

- Peter

 

 

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An argument could be made that line 12,

 

"Toss My Foes A Reference" = ENEMY FORESEES FACTORS

 

but that wouldn't seem to fulfill the expectation that each of these lines predicts a disaster.

 

Now, if I were designing something like this, I would have begun with a list of fairly natural-sounding phrases, simple two-or-three word phrases that sounded natural and not awkward, and then I would have run them through the anagram engine tp see what else I could make each line look like. Because of that assumption about starting with natural-sounding phrases, I find I have high confidence in

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = DEADLIEST WARM

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

...but less confidence in

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = DEAD JIHAD HUMAN AMMO

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = GERM JOINS FORMED JUG

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = ENABLED SILOS ARISE

 

However, it is supposed to be a poem, and because lines 9, 11, and 13 all rhyme, that bolsters my confidence in those lines. Thus, I find in the end that I have rather high confidence in all the lines except 6 and 10. Those lines seem appropriate within the context of Zeshua's other predictions, but they nonetheless seem a bit awkward and forced. Nonetheless, they are the best solutions I seem able to come up with.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Man, this thing is starting to give me chills.

 

Peter, How about Manilla Curse = Nuclear Islam?

 

Yikes

Interesting that it's not just "Nuclear Iran", but "Nuclear Islam", a much broader prediction.

 

Well, today that prediction came true. Iran is offering to share its hard-won nuclear technology with its fellow Islamic nations.

 

See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061216/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

 

Iran offers to transfer nuke technology 1 hour, 28 minutes ago

 

Iran's president said Saturday his country was ready to transfer nuclear technology to neighboring countries, Kuwaiti television reported, a week after Arab states on the Persian Gulf announced plans to consider a joint nuclear program. The television said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a top Kuwaiti envoy he welcomed the decision by the Islamic republic's Arab neighbors to pursue peaceful nuclear technology. "The Islamic Republic of Iran is prepared to transfer to regional states its valuable experience and achievements in the field of peaceful nuclear technology as a clean energy source and as a replacement for oil," the state quoted Ahmadinejad as telling Mohammed Zefollah Shirar, a top adviser to Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah al-Ahmad al-Sabah. Such a technological transfer would be legal as long as it is between signatory states to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and as long as the International Atomic Energy Agency that monitors the treaty was informed of the transfer. Iran is at odds with the United States and its European allies, who accuse Iran of seeking nuclear weapons. Iran insists its nuclear program is aimed solely at the peaceful production of nuclear energy. Edgar Vasquez, a State Department spokesman, told the AP on Saturday that Iran's continued defiance of international nuclear safeguards represents "a serious threat" to maintaining peace and stability in the region. "We expect Iran to comply with international obligations under the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) and its safeguards agreement with the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency)," Vasquez said. "Iran's non-compliance up to this point is a serious threat — which we continue to work with our international partners and the international community in the U.N. Security Council to remedy," he said.

Zeshua made that prediction on November 15th. One month later, Iran fulfilled the prediction.

 

- Peter

 

Edit: I just noticed that the article said that one week earlier, "Arab states on the Persian Gulf announced plans to consider a joint nuclear program." And so in the short time since Zeshua predicted that Islam would go nuclear, we have seen not one, but two major developments in that direction.

 

 

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Wow- you descrambled "Manilla Curse" and chose "Nuclear Islam" from the 30,000 anagrams it produces which automatically means Zeshua predicted Iran sharing nuclear technologies with other Islamic nations. Amazing. Unbelievable. Incredible. Fantastic.

 

Enough already. We know you are Zeshua and the more you press the issue, the more retarded you will end up sounding. You're busted. Be a man- move on with it. It's only a matter of time until the Moderator of this forum kicks you out of here anyway, like they did in the anomolies site.

 

You have no more vacations to sell me on Anthrax Island.

 

 

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No, in fact I wasn't the one to unscramble that anagram. CMAY was, in her post on December 6th :

 

Man, this thing is starting to give me chills.

 

Peter, How about Manilla Curse = Nuclear Islam?

 

Yikes

I had previously stupidly believed it was "Nuclear Mails", but CMAY's resolution of the anagram was obviously more correct than my own, and I immediately embraced it and rejected my own previous solution. That was on December 6th. And now just a week later that prediction actually came true. You can look at that as a coincidence if you want to. I don't.

 

Oh, and for the record, the phrase "Manilla Curse" only generates about 8,000 anagrams, (as opposed to the 30,000 you claim above) and that number drops down to only 2000 anagrams if you rule out words of less than three letters. And of those 2000 options, you will see that way over 90% of them are obviously incorrect, seeing as they are nothing but meaningless gibberish.

 

See http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Manilla+Curse&language=english&d=3&include=&exclude=&n=3&m=&source=adv&a=n&l=n&q=y

 

Of those 2000 generated anagrams, you will see that only a very few are even remotely viable possibilities, and of those few, only the one seems to have anything to do with what Zeshua has previously talked about. So you see it's really a pretty easy process of elimination (time-consuming, yes, but easy nonetheless).

 

- Peter

 

 

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As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

 

A Soldiers Most

 

Hail War As

 

A Renaissance Pi Melts

 

A Sidearm Dwelt

 

A Cosmic Clone Pole

 

Jihad Had Mom Due A Man

 

A Quarks Humble Tree

 

Manilla Curse

 

Foretells Kiwi Smirks

 

Demons Former Jig Jug

 

A Liberal Disses One

 

Toss My Foes A Reference

 

Heaters High Storm

"Manilla Curse", as we noticed before, is an anagram for NUCLEAR ISLAM.

 

Now, the question before us is whether Zeshua intended us to find that anagram, or whether it is

 

just a meaningless coincidence that "Manilla Curse" transforms into "Nuclear Islam".

 

How do we find an answer to that question?

 

Well, if Zeshua meant "Nuclear Islam", then she is saying that "Nuclear Islam" is an event that

 

will eventually "Come to Pass." In other words, it is a prediction. Well, that's easy enough to

 

prove. If the prediction comes true, then we would know two things : (1) she really did mean

 

"nuclear Islam" and not "Manilla Curse", proving the "anagram hypothesis" correct, and (2) she

 

may really be from the future, since her prediction did come true.

 

Now, as it turns out, todays news carries a story of Islam going just a bit more nuclear than it

 

was last week :

 

Immediately after the U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Saturday to impose sanctions on Iran

 

for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment, increasing international pressure on the government to

 

prove that it is not trying to make nuclear weapons, Iran immediately rejected the resolution and

 

vowed to commence additional nuclear activities at Natanz, the site of 3,000-centrifuge machines.

 

So it seems, at this juncture anyway, that Iran's journey towards nuclear strength is not being

 

stymied by the UN, but instead is being intensified by the UN.

 

Does that mean Zeshua's prediction was right? No, not yet it doesn't. But it is looking more

 

likely to be right every day.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Zeshua's 2006 List of Predictions, with their hypothetical anagram solutions :

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES (F)

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = DEADLIEST WARM

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE (F)

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = DEAD JIHAD HUMAN AMMO

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = GERM JOINS FORMED JUG ©

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = ENABLED SILOS ARISE

 

12."Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

Her 2005 List of Predictions :

 

A. A Pre-emptive strike occurs between two war bound countries in Europe/Asia.

 

B. 2 Federal buildings are completely destroyed.

 

C. A Sudden outbreak of influenza.

 

D. The Patriot Act ends up in court, its powers used to spy on civilians "For their own good"

 

E. A 3rd becomes next.

 

F. A Massive Financial meltdown that puts the Euro as the preferred Global Currency.

 

Repercussions abound to the almighty US Dollar.

 

G. A New form of computer virus programmed by a small team of individuals sweeps the globe

 

within 24 hours.

 

H. The Telluride Occurrence

 

As you see, I tried above to find correspondence between this new hypothetical list of anagram

 

predictions and Zeshua's old list from 2005, but only three items on the new list seem to relate

 

to items on the older list. So it does seem that Zeshua is providing us with new predictions beyond

 

what she supplied previously.

 

While we are discussing Zeshua's predictions, I might as well add a few more to the mix.

 

On May 17th 2005, Zeshua posted the following to the Zeshua Group :

 

'Leis code is difficult

 

its secrets earned

 

seven to eleven

 

dalf the world turned.

 

Cards collapse

 

thy dollar not firm

 

twelve to fifteen

 

half the world burned.'

 

Then on July 4th 2006, Zeshua posted the following to the Zeshua Group :

 

'On this day or soon, this persons death brings great shock, many nations mourn. This buildup is of

 

another kind, Rumbling of the ground, Death from above. They don't back down, In what initially

 

transgressed, What happens next. Commonly referred to as the Second Phase, it was assuredly the

 

second time around. These two events did not 'Seem' connected. Headliner-"******* ** ***!"'

 

 

And then on September 14th 2006, she posted the following to the group :

 

'The Mo rning pours

 

Rains and Tears

 

What occurs next

 

Has been planned Fo r years

 

 

 

All the worlds His stage

 

Soon we revist His rage

 

While all shall Re-mourn

 

You will be Re-warned

 

The voice behind the curtain speaks

 

This should be clear in the next several weeks

 

 

 

Seven to Eleven

 

Eleven be concerned

 

This Element Bubbles

 

Their Plot quickly Turned'

 

 

Now, mostly we don't know what to make of these three posts. Although we have discussed them a lot

 

in our private group, we really haven't come up with any interpretations that seem like they're on

 

target. We do note that the phrase 'seven to eleven' occurs twice, and our general feeling is that

 

Zeshua is predicting economic collapse from 2007 - 2011, followed by war and destruction and stuff

 

like that from 2012 - 2015. But we realize that we might have that entirely wrong as well. In any

 

case, Zeshua gave us the go-ahead to share what we had with the public, and after asking the rest

 

of the group if they had any objections, I decided it would be best to get at least these three

 

posts out into the public sphere. Maybe they will prove relevant. Maybe someone smarter than we are

 

will see something in them that we do not. Most likely they will be ridiculed and ignored, but now

 

at least they are preserved publically just in case they prove valuable.

 

Merry Christmas.

 

- Peter

 

 

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"As you see, I tried above to find correspondence between this new hypothetical list of anagram

 

predictions and Zeshua's old list from 2005, but only three items on the new list seem to relate

 

to items on the older list. "

 

Yes, I see. What I see is a man possessed. What I see is a man who, once I have pointed out the predictions Zeshua made that were wrong, now is desperately trying to prop-up the story and somehow find a way to make them right. He couldn't possibly just admit that Zeshua got them all wrong, now could he? How about trying the anagram trick on those old predictions, Peter? You might find some really nasty things about the future in those. Oh... and instead of spending so much time trying to keep Zeshua going (as I predicted) how about you hold up your end of our deal? Here, I will even get you started with the most important issue you have ignored:

 

Question: Why do you use a negative bias in your search for "what Zeshua is saying"? IOW, why do you only find "bad" things about the future and no neutral or "good" predictions?

 

The bird cage calls...

 

 

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"While we are discussing Zeshua's predictions, I might as well add a few more to the mix. "

 

Yeah. Sure. The other ones are not holding-up too well to scrutiny. So now it must be the time to introduce new unverified data... stuff that doesn't even exist on this site (just like a few of those "predictions" you asked me to address, and I did). You really are a piece of work, Peter. Do you honestly think anyone takes you and your group seriously?

 

 

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Looks as if you have been at it for awhile with the interpretations. In my case, I just really do not have the time to pursue such endeavors. I think though in the end, it is an interpretation that lends to both what is said and to what is thought by the person making the interpretations.

 

At this time, I also see no need for other posters to concern theirselves with their attempt at some kind of mind-control either. Simply make an interpretation for all to view and do not seek to attempt the mind-control that seems to be happening by some other posters.

 

Make an interpretation about the anagrams given but attempt to keep your mind out of the interpretations. This will be a mind exercise and perhaps even hard to do.

 

Perhaps the programs I been trying are just not up to the anagrams, because most of what those programs put out is pure nonsense when actually looked at.

 

I am not going to be a Moderator on this forum but attempt to keep the discussion above board, as in time travel board as in something that infers another dimension of thought whether physical or of the mind but not of your own mind.

 

Negativity about the Anagrams - - fine -- if no other interpretation can be found. Negativity from the mind on posting the mind's negativity not as welcomed on the board.

 

If there were nothing else to discuss but the accusations, the world would be a total mess in the future, so quit attempting to make the future more negative. Perhaps posters should make the future more positive than negative, because all the positive and negative add up in the end. Perhaps it has an effect on the future as an unknown element of the theory of quantum theory. Since no one can really tell if that is the case, then opt for a more positive future.

 

If the Anagrams help in that regard then fine, if the posters can not keep it above the negative aspects of posting then there is also the neutral corner also.

 

There is the neutral corner, the positive corner, and the negative corner. The other corner is the time travel corner. A square turns into a circle if more corners are given to include many more corners until it becomes a circle. Try for a circle of Light with all the corners that can be included. Light and Gravity and the now present quantum theory makes a newer theory and includes more corners then the now present quantum theory. Try and include all the corners of your mind and brain into the discussion and not just the negative ones. There may not be any negative corners in the theory until later it is found to be included in the theory. There is the left hand corner and the right hand corner and the present theory of the quantum theory. All those corners in the mind and brain may include more corners and new dimensions in the total quantum theory eventually.

 

The Sun is suppose to have another major sunspot cycle coming up by the year 2010-2011 or so, which means that communications will probably be disrupted on this Planet and by the Satellites also. A broad-band emergency aspect of the Internet is also being undertaken at this time thought of by the Federal Government but has to be done by Private Companies to make it happen.

 

This is all Mother Nature at work and affecting this Planet in the future as it is called nowadays as Global Warming and any other thing, but in the end perhaps it was given a term as Mother Nature in the end. Perhaps that is correct and perhaps that is wrong.

 

Therefore as far as anyone knows, it is Mother Nature and Father Time.

 

Therefore everyone can pray more as some others do in the Hope that the Future is made more Positive than Negative in the Future. Thus with the current theory it is thought that some people are behind Father Time as other know it, and some people are ahead of Father Time as is known by what each person knows.

 

Therefore after the Iranian President also in the News, those scientists and others and Leader should consider more schooling so as to re-align their brains and minds with an alternative Future for the Future instead of the negative one (or positive one as they are thinking nowadays) than what they are really thinking over there in Iran.

 

Therefore all people must Grow a Bigger Brain and Mind in the Future, and it is only thought that the brain and mind stays the same. But the Brain and Mind is programmable, and can be changed, so in the Future, change your own Mind and your own Brain.

 

This will also take some effort so it can not be assumed to be an empty endeavor as as one is living on this Planet with Mother Nature and Father Time, time keeps slipping away into the Past, and time is also around in the Future, but only if the person is around to perceive Father Time in the Present.

 

I need another cup of coffee and so far it is not sliding one way or another but just sitting there ready to be consumed. It is a consumer's economy but what consumption did anyone really need except to exercise the brain and mind on a worthwhile endeavor. Make sure then that the endeavor is worthwhile because many people in this World may not be making that worthwhile endeavor with his/her/alien brain and mind. Space is Big but Time may be Bigger.

 

Make sure then that your brain and mind is attempting to include all of the Space and all of the Time.

 

The Mother Space of Inventions will also be included and the Father Time of Inventions will also be included. Implants are not needed because with Quantum Theory it was all there in the first place and it will all be there in the end place.

 

Proceed but do not attempt to include others at Warp Speed throughout the SpaceTime element that makes up only part of the Quantum Theory.

 

Proceed as if it was all present in the first place and Warp Speed is just another couple of words some have equated to explain it with. But in the end, the Mind and Brain includes such record speeds when all is considered as to include other dimensions in the end.

 

This is present Math and Theory about all the Quantum Theory so include all of the Past and all of the Future as far as the Mind and Brain can see.

 

 

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Yes, I see. What I see is a man possessed. What I see is a man who, once I have pointed out the predictions Zeshua made that were wrong, now is desperately trying to prop-up the story and somehow find a way to make them right.

Indazona, you obviously have a personal problem with Peter. If Peter posted "the sky is blue because Zeshua said so," you'd immediately jump him, IMO.

 

What Peter has done is added what has been privately been told to the Zeshua group in the past year. He didn't have to do this.

 

Question: Why do you use a negative bias in your search for "what Zeshua is saying"? IOW, why do you only find "bad" things about the future and no neutral or "good" predictions?

You also don't like "bad" predictions. You want a bed of roses.

Indazona, let me ask YOU a question. Say you were a TT'er from 2002, and were posting in 2000. What ONE thing would you try to warn people about in 2001? Probably 9/11. Is that "neutral or good?"

 

One of the reasons that Peter has used a negative bias in his interpretation of what Zeshua has said is because she has said she has come to WARN people. People don't warn others of something good that's going to happen.

 

The bird cage calls...

This is a time travel forum that discusses the possibility of TT and TT'ers. Perhaps someone on here should e-mail alert you when a TT'er comes stating there will be peace on earth, poverty is gone in the world, all diseases cured, no one suffers again, and every wish is granted.
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I had suggested the following solutions :

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = DEADLIEST WARM

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = DEAD JIHAD HUMAN AMMO

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = ?????

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = ENABLED SILOS ARISE

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

But indazona has been working on these anagrams, apparently, and we are all fortunate that s/he was, as s/he has offered obviously preferable solutions to lines 4 and 6, as follows :

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt = MIDDLE EAST WAR

 

6. "Jihad Had Mom Due A Man" = MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD

 

These seem much more likely than the solutions I came up with, and I thank indazona for sharing them. I'm not surprised that the online anagram solvers didn't find the MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD solution, but the other one was just my own laziness. I ran across "deadliest warm" and just assumed I wouldn't find any better fit. My bad.

 

In any case, that would make the whole poem as follows :

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = MIDDLE EAST WAR

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = ?????

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = ENABLED SILOS ARISE

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

I had previously come up with a workable but inelegant solution to line 10, but I will now withdraw it, seeing that it might also be a name. Any ideas?

 

My thanks go out once again to indazona for his/her assistance, whether intended or otherwise. A very nice Christmas gift indeed!

 

- Peter

 

 

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The future is not set as fate, but once again some people can not get it through their heads that they are indeed the ones doing it. It is selfish, mishappen, and usually of the ulterior motives these people seem to posess. They simply end up usually losing in the end, as there are a great many things going on with the Planet.

 

Australia is starting to look at it seriously.

 

The Middle East could change, but be assured that Israel will respond in the end.

 

To much time is taken up with the rituals that define the future as fate instead of being changeable.

 

It takes real thinking to acknowledge one's mistakes and a real effort to change one's brain because it is not hard-wired like the future is not hard-wired either.

 

I think the steps to change anything may well be about over, so I foresee it as something that could be defined with more knowledge and projections but will not be due to the ever-hestitate actions defining this course of action.

 

Demons Former Jig Jug = 'Judge from germs join.'

 

How about that for a solution?

 

http://www.anagramgenius.com/server.php?source_text=Demons+Former+Jig+Jug&emphasis=4&gender=2&vulgar=0&business=on&computer=on&politics=on&seen=true

 

The germs are mutating according to the News and may now affect humans (according to the BBC News - perhaps a few days ago -- have to look it up.)

 

I think it is the Bird Flu and it was also stated it could kill about 64 million people worldwide and they thought around 500,000 in England over there. Just in the BBC News on the Internet the other day.

 

 

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Oh, the Judge according to what I know off of the Internet about what is going on in the World (with God with the innate nature of this Planet affecting things like Hurricanes here and there and Earthquakes here and there, and Doughts in Australia) is the "Devil" who is the Judge doing the other stuff in this World.

 

Oh, I could be wrong on this as all of it could be just the innate structure associated with the overall design created by God in the first place of what this Universe really is -- Created.

 

That does not mean Creation Theory as presented either, but the design is Evolution which is what the germs are doing while mutating into a newer form that could affect humans and cause the outbreak as reported in the BBC News the other day.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6199717.stm

 

Flu 'could wipe out 62 million'

 

Some scientists believe a new one may be imminent and could be triggered by bird flu.

 

So far there have been only 258 cases of the latest strain of avian flu, H5N1, recorded in humans.

 

But the fear is that this strain could mutate and spread quickly and easily between people, triggering a deadly pandemic.

 

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Mainly in Poorer Foreign Nations.

 

 

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Randi's predictions lead to another obvious one, but maybe you don't believe what Randi told us?

 

"REAP A NASCENT MISSILE"

 

Now if Zeshua really was a hoax, planted by Randi, then this is a perfect fit. Randi's time travel mission was to show how people will look for "predictions" when someone is just encoding currently known events. What you don't realize is that Randi has given jmpet and myself many predictions. And Randi has also given us a lot more of the real anagram solutions. Some you got right, others you didn't. Randi gave us an example in one of her predictions. It is another anagram. There are lots of solutions, and it seems to refer to Zeshua's poem:

 

DELETED DROPS POEM

 

<font color="white"> Oh Ford! Oh Gerry! Fumbled into leadership, but now we mourn ye! [/color]

 

 

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Ok, there's also a better one for line 11, as shown below

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = MIDDLE EAST WAR

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = ?????

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = IRAN'S SEA BLEEDS OIL

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = OCEAN REEFS SEEM FROSTY

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

I'm still not completely happy with lines 9 or 12, and obviously line 10 still needs a solution.

 

Line 12 could be RARE ECOSYSTEM OFFENSE, which would offer a satisfyingly meaningful segway from line 11 to line 13. If Iran's sea did "bleed oil", it would indeed be a rare ecosystem offense, and so, despite the somewhat stilted and perhaps just a slight bit awkward sound of the phrase, I am leaning towards thinking it might be correct. If so, the poem would be :

 

1. "A Soldiers Most" = DISASTERS LOOM

 

2. "Hail War As" = SHARIA LAW

 

3. 'A Renaissance Pi Melts' = AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES

 

4. "A Sidearm Dwelt' = MIDDLE EAST WAR

 

5. "A Cosmic Clone Pole" = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

 

6. 'Jihad Had Mom Due A Man' = MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD

 

7. 'A Quarks Humble Tree' = EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE

 

8. 'Manila Curse' = NUCLEAR ISLAM

 

9. 'Foretells Kiwi Smirks' = SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES

 

10. 'Demons Former Jig Jug' = ?????

 

11. A Liberal Disses One" = IRAN'S SEA BLEEDS OIL

 

12. "Toss My Foes A Reference" = RARE ECOSYSTEM OFFENSE

 

13. "Heaters High Storm" = MOTHER EARTH SIGHS

 

 

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On November 15th, Zeshua posted what she called a 'poem', but which seems to have been a set of brief predictions encoded in anagrams. At the time she first introduced the 'poem', she associated it with the years 2007 - 2009, as follows :

 

Good Days to you All,

 

Below, A Brief Poem, Circa 2007-2009

 

Author and Title Anonymous

 

A Soldiers Most

 

Hail War As

 

A Renaissance Pi Melts

 

A Sidearm Dwelt

 

A Cosmic Clone Pole

 

Jihad Had Mom Due A Man

 

A Quarks Humble Tree

 

Manilla Curse

 

Foretells Kiwi Smirks

 

Demons Former Jig Jug

 

A Liberal Disses One

 

Toss My Foes A Reference

 

Heaters High Storm

 

After an absence of two weeks, she finally posted again on December 2nd in the thread 'You Have Your new Pope', hinting 'It should also be noted that each Posting may be considered a jumble'. After that subtle push in the right direction, we slowly began figuring out that the poem was encoded in anagrams. A mere fifteen minutes after her first post that day, she posted again in the same thread, adding also that 'As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass', and then reposting the same poem again.

 

Now, it seems to me that if we combine her three comments about this poem, we get : 'Each Posting may be considered a jumble [...] Each of These Events will Come to Pass [...] 2007-2009.'

 

It does not seem unreasonable to conclude from the above construction that each line is an anagram of a predicted event occurring sometime between 2007 - 2009. If so, then the proposed resolutions (DISASTERS LOOM : SHARIA LAW, AMERICA'S LAST PENNIES, MIDDLE EAST WAR, ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD, EARTHQUAKES RUMBLE, NUCLEAR ISLAM, SILKWORM STRIKE FLIES, ????? , IRAN'S SEA BLEEDS OIL, RARE ECOSYSTEM OFFENSE, MOTHER EARTH SIGHS) should all occur sometime over the next three years, if Zeshua is to be believed.

 

Furthermore, it seems we might go even farther and assume that the first line of the poem, 'disasters loom', provides an additional qualification to each of the subsequent lines, giving us another aid in trying to understand or interpret them. In other words, each of the lines of the poem not only describes an event predicted to come to pass over the next three years, but an event worthy of being called a 'disaster' ! Thus, the poem suggests that 'Sharia Law' not only exists in these years, but somehow becomes both a notable 'event' and a 'disaster' in those years, beyond what it is already. Additionally, one would thus also assume that the lines 'Middle East War' and 'Mahmoud Ahmadinejad' refer to new events and circumstances beyond what exist along those lines already today. Most of the other lines' predictions seem obvious, although line ten is still unsolved, and line 13 is rather obscure. I would interpret these lines as saying that either a whole new Middle East War breaks out in the next three years, or the ones that currently exist there will get a lot worse. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is categorized as a disaster, which suggests that he will not turn away from his current path towards war. The poem includes the item 'earthquakes rumble' as one of the disasters, which raises some questions. Disastrous earthquakes are not all that uncommon, especially within a three-year window, which makes one wonder if the prediction is suggesting that the quantity and/or intensity of earthquakes will be significantly worse than normal over the next three years.

 

The poem seem to very bluntly predict that Iran will do what it has threatened to do if it goes to war with the USA – scuttle oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz. That is a very real and worrisome threat, for a number of reasons. First, it would put a stranglehold on the oil industry, with no exports being able to be delivered from the Persian Gulf. The experts are very worried about this. If this happens, it is expected to cause an immediate and extreme hike in oil prices around the world, causing grave economic repercussions in all nations. If it does happen, Zeshua's predictions of 'America's Last Pennies' and 'Economic Collapse' become virtual certainties. But what the experts are NOT talking about, but Zeshua does feel important enough to mention, is that such an act would, in all likelihood, also cause a 'rare ecosystem offense'. Most of us here probably recall the Exxon Valdez oil disaster, which was an ecological disaster in its own right, caused by just one tanker spill. Can we even imagine, or hope to anticipate, the ecological repercussions that would ensue if dozens of full oil tankers were ripped open in the Strait of Hormuz? How far would all that oil go? Would it escape from the Strait and start to be circulated in the Indian Ocean and perhaps even beyond? Nothing like that has ever happened before, so we can't hope to know for sure what would happen next, but Zeshua seems to indicate that our planet has some sort of reaction to the spill with her words 'Mother Earth Sighs'.

 

At one point in our discussions with Zeshua (and I don't recall off the top of my head if it was in our public or private correspondence with her), we asked why she limited her communications with the past to no later than 2009. She replied that after 2009, she would no longer be able to maintain any degree of disbelief, insisting that by that date, everyone would believe everything she said. That suggests that the next three years are going to be very eventful indeed, and this poem may outline some of the biggest developments of those years.

 

Or it may not.

 

Only thing for sure is that, come three years from now, these will no longer be questions.

 

- Peter

 

 

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"If it does happen, Zeshua's predictions of 'America's Last Pennies' and 'Economic Collapse' become virtual certainties."

 

You have many problems here, Peter. The first problem is your refusal to accept one of the three anagram solutions that I gave you (which came from Randi). It is problematic (for you) for many reasons. First, why would Zeshua repeat the same (non-specific) theme with two anagrams? I can tell you that "economic collapse" it correct but your "America's last pennies" is not correct. Zeshua (Randi) did not repeat any specfic themes in these anagrams. The other reason this is problematic is because you are refusing to accept the possibility and probability that Zeshua was encoding existing knowledge. Clearly you can see from the last two solutions you accepted that both of these speak to existing knowledge before Zeshua posted her anagrams. Yet you still continue to push your interpretations, and your beliefs. You resist accepting the third, true solution I have given you because in doing so you would have to abandon the prospect that these are "predictions".

 

I am also here to tell you, and I know you will not accept it, that some of your other solutions are still incorrect. I know all of the solutions, and yes this means I also know the true solution to the "Demons Former Jig Jug". Let me tell you that you will not like the solution in the same way you do not like the "REAP A NASCENT MISSILE" solution. You are in dangerous territory here Peter, I am just letting you know. For the more you insist upon going down the road you are on, the more foolish you will look when all of the final, true solutions of Zeshua's anagrams are revealed. You will end up looking like the guy who, despite all other suggestions, continued to push his fatalist interpretations of the Zeshua hoax. Let it be known, I have given you fair warning and a prediction of what is to come, thanks to Randi.

 

Yes, Peter is in a real bind here. Do you think the name Randi is a coincidence? Randi set this trap just to "ensnare" (check that word in your anagrams too, you will find it!) someone who plays the Nostradamus "fit what was said to anything that happens, and therefore make it a prediction" game. The further you go, Peter, the deeper it will get. You should seriously assess your position, because there are only two outcomes, neither of which look too good for you. There is still time to avoid looking any more foolish than you already do.

 

 

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12/25/06 01:00 PM : Randi also invented Zeshua as a hoax [...] Zeshua was something Randi created as a hoax.

 

12/25/06 08:26 PM : Randi said she is really Zeshua and Zeshua is a hoax.

 

12/25/06 08:39 PM : Zeshua is really yeyeman9

 

12/26/06 05:58 PM : Is yeyeman9 really Zeshua?

On December 16th, jmpet accused me of being Zeshua at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=44739&Forum=All_Forums&Words=jmpet&Match=Username&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=43927&Search=true#Post44739

 

And then on Christmas Eve, jmpet accused 'Randi' of being Zeshua, at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=44848&Forum=All_Forums&Words=jmpet&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=44848&Search=true#Post44848

 

And then the day after Christmas, jmpet accuses Yeye of being Zeshua, at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=44908&Forum=All_Forums&Words=jmpet&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=44848&Search=true#Post44908

 

Indazona and jmpet have amply demonstrated (above) that they are not men of their

 

word, nor men of honor, nor men who have the slightest insight into what is going on with the

 

whole Zeshua story.

 

- Peter

 

 

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"Since you and jmpet have already amply demonstrated (above) that you are not men of your word,

 

there seems no reason for anyone to read or respond to anymore of your posts. "

 

Oh believe me, Peter, people are reading. Yeyeman is simply a side-show. You are still on the main stage. Mark my words above. I guarantee you that there are people reading who understand that "REAP A NASCENT MISSILE" is correct, and are seeing what is going on. Just remember, you were warned. Can a budding author really afford to look this foolish? We shall find out.

 

 

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You know why I do this? Because Zeshua's story cannot stand on its own legs. Therefore, whoever is propping up Zeshua's claim is in on it. Why? Because Zeshua's story as-is is incomplete, illogical and sorely lacking. I accused you because you were/are fixated on Zeshua's anagrams- for over a week, if we didn't have you constantly bumping Zeshua, she would have simply gone away.

 

Then yeyeman9 came along and bingo! We have a winner!

 

And for the record, men of honor don't go about lying to people or distorting the truth. Kinda like you posting a "Zeshua archive" and leaving off all the parts you don't agree with- like her failed nitescot prediction, her failed "Dark Side of the Moon" prediction and anything else you disagree with.

 

"He who makes fun of my brains will find there's nothing funny." -Groo

 

 

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