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Disasters Loom - "Gaza bore all the signs that warned of disaster and civil war was looming..."

Zeshua posted this on 6/25. The original seems to be from someone named Ramzy Baroud, a veteran journalist and a human rights advocate at a London-based NGO; he is the editor of PalestineChronicle.com; his website is RamzyBaroud.net and can be contacted at [email protected] He posted this two days earlier at "Middle East Online".

 

 

 

"New Zawahri Video Urges Hamas to Implement Sharia Law"

This story seems to have originally been announced in our newspapers on the exact same day Zeshua posted the above here at TTI.

 

 

 

"The Middle East is a powder keg, ready to explode."

People have been saying that for decades.

 

 

"The Palestinian Massacre"

I still don't find much currently or recently published that uses that phrase via google. Is this still to come? And if Zeshua wanted us to search for the phrase "Massacre in Palestine", well, that specific phrase comes up 13,200 time on the net according to google, and is in reference to all sorts of events over the last 50 years.
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I can't understand why this person posts a couple of things and then leaves for a while and then posts a couple more things and leaves. It doesn't make any sense to me. Seems like a waste of time. Zeshua never really stays to talk to anyone. Its like she posts a couple of things and then she sits back for days and looks at the responses. Then there will be another single post again and then nothing. I just don't get it.

Perhaps the world is not only crazier than we imagine, but also crazier than we CAN imagine.

 

If Zeshua's story is true, then it would make sense to me that we would not be able to make sense of her behavior from our current perspective. But at the same time, that quality of her posts could have been intentionally designed into her posts for just such an effect.

 

 

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Zeshua,

 

you are correct, the quotation was from a newspaper article of your time. Consequently, as often as news articles are posted and reposted, picked up through your Associated Press, distributed, printed, and linked on the Internet, I do not always have access to the original sources of the documents, and in most cases someone living in your time can find that information much easier than I ever could.

 

Not all sources are archived on the Internet, surprisingly there is a vast amount of information still missing about events occurring in your time.

 

I hope this clears up the confusion. Good days to you.

Actually, no. I doesn't clear up anything because your response did not address the question.

 

I asked why you didn't give the author proper credit for his/her words that were lifted out of an article in a daily newspaper.

 

Because you didn't give the author credit or in any other way indicate that the words were not your own you seem to have been attempting to give the notion that they were your words...a Zeshuaism as it were...for people to debate in the form of:

 

Ah,ha! Zeshua made this prediction way back when and Viola! It came to pass (or didn't come to pass as the case may be).

 

 

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Darby,

 

I do apologize for the misunderstanding we seem to be experiencing over the authorship of the articles and quotations in question. Please let me attempt to clear up any remaining doubt as to the authenticity of these statements. If you recall my initial post in this thread mentions the following as "Anonymous". This is indeed accurate. There is no archive or records in my time which were able to determine the initial authorship of said articles.

 

These words were taken from titles and brief summaries of news events, circa 2007-2009. If anyone can validly confirm the authorship of said quotations, please do so. We do not have this information in my time.

 

As for an example of the difficulties in obtaining authorship for an article or quotation 20 years or more after it has happened, I submit the following, still anonymous quotation. "God helps those who help themselves." Surely you've heard of this expression, yet there is continuing debate pertaining to whom had originally uttered such words. Some say Benjamin Franklin, and even Aesop has been attributed to this quote. Yet, until it can be confirmed, it shall remain "Anonymous".

 

 

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Zeshua,

 

In other words, even though you didn't know precisely who the author was, you did know that 1) the author wasn't you and 2) the item did come from a newspaper article of this time.

 

Once again, you didn't answer the question:

 

Why did you not indicate, even though you didn't have the complete information, "I didn't write these words - a reporter of your time wrote these words."?

 

Because you've twice obfuscated the answer to my question I have to assume that I was correct - it was an attempt to take credit for the "prediction".

 

 

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Darby,

 

I thought it clear my initial post answered these questions.

 

"Below, A Brief Poem, Circa 2007-2009

 

Author and Title Anonymous"

 

The poem, made up from headlines of news stories circulating between 2007-2009, of which no Author was given specific credit due to the fact that their names and titles of their stories were not included within the text archives I was able to obtain.

 

So, for the record, these are not my words, more importantly than who's words they are, it is what the words indicate about your time. I hope that you can look beyond the authorship and find a deeper understanding in my warnings.

 

 

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OK...considering all of what you have posted. Why do you feel the need to pick out words from newspaper articles that can be found right now if googled and post them like they are your predictions? After all you claim to be a time traveler and yet you are posting our own current news....I don't get it. Why do you also feel the need to make them mysterious and posting them in short phrases? Are you just trying to get people to talk about these articles or make more out of them than what they are? honest questions.

 

This is what makes you posting here in riddles unclear to me.

 

Are we to assume you will be continuing to just post our own articles in mysterious short phrases

 

that don't really mean anything special?

 

 

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Pamela,

 

These are very justified questions. I will answer them, in the hopes that others will understand what I am about to explain.

 

These are not predictions by any means. I cannot predict the future, my experiment deals primarily with the past. You may notice, the original date of my posting these quotes, 15/11/06. These were obtained from a news archive search during the time period of 2007-2009. They are meant as warnings, to those who will listen, of the times which are to come. In 2006 nobody would have considered a 3rd of the Palestinian Territory fractioned and taken over. In 2006 none would have supposed there was a call for Sharia Law in the heart of the Middle East.

 

After these events have occurred, there is very little danger in exposing the nature of the quotation, or its bearing on your current events.

 

My personal safety is of the utmost concern, no major alterations of the timeline are permitted. If I had come out in 2006 and said "There will be a fractioning of Palestine into a 3rd." Then the resultant timequake may have altered history to such a degree as is unpredictable and dangerous.

 

What is permissible, as confirmed by these experiments, is the subtle disclosure of information, often encoded, and then released after the fact. This helps to maintain the element of disbelief which is essential.

 

There is a surprising wealth of information on some subjects, such as yourself Pamela. I would not release that information in the public realm, for your own safety. These are the exact reasons for the "riddles" as you refer to. My own personal safety. If you can think of a better path to releasing information which I have on the events between 2007-2009, without causing detriment to myself, or exposing the timeline to a timequake, I, am all ears.

 

 

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"There is a surprising wealth of information on some subjects, such as yourself Pamela. I would not release that information in the public realm, for your own safety."

 

Is this some type of threat? for you have mentioned it twice. Please feel free to write me a Private message of said information.

 

 

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In 2006 nobody would have considered a 3rd of the Palestinian Territory fractioned and taken over.

You gotta be kidding! Hamas won the election on 26 January of that very year. That set up a natural opposition between them and Abbas' Fatah party which held the presidency. It was obvious at the time that such a thing could happen, especially given Hamas' militancy.

 

In 2006 none would have supposed there was a call for Sharia Law in the heart of the Middle East.

Again, you gotta be kidding! It is Bin Laden's and Zawahiri's intention (and they made it known long before 2006) that they wanted a Sharia Law state in the ME. That was what they were doing in Afghanistan. And for being from the future, your history is really poor to forget that also in 2006 Sharia Law was the biggest issue in Somalia. Also at the behest of Al Qaeda.

 

So who you think you foolin'?

 

 

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In 2006 none would have supposed there was a call for Sharia Law in the heart of the Middle East.

Nonsense. Two of the biggest nations in the Middle East, Arabia and Iran, are already under Sharia

 

Law, Afghanistan was under it during the rule of the Taliban, and the Al Qaeda-type groups have long

 

claimed that their ultimate intent is to place the whole world under Sharia Law.

 

Everyone has known for some time that pro-Sharia Law political organizations have been in play in

 

the Middle East, and with the historical political instability of Palestine, it was almost an

 

inevitability that a pro-Sharia Law group would control some portion of Palestine sooner or later.

 

I'm only slightly more impressed that your "A 3rd becomes next" prediction (from

 

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=32350&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Zeshua&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=32350&Search=true#Post32350) has grown something like legs with the splitting of Palestine, but again, not very much impressed.

 

After all, the only part of that "prediction" that has anything to do with the recent developments

 

in Palestine is the word "third". What does "become next" have to do with it? Nothing as far as I

 

can see.

 

- Peter

 

 

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I'm only slightly more impressed that your "A 3rd becomes next" prediction (from

 

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=32350&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Zeshua&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=32350&Search=true#Post32350) has grown something like legs with the splitting of Palestine, but again, not very much impressed.

 

After all, the only part of that "prediction" that has anything to do with the recent developments

 

in Palestine is the word "third". What does "become next" have to do with it? Nothing as far as I

 

can see.

I'm not impressed either. Zeshua, the first time you mentioned the word "third" was here:

 

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=32350&Forum=time_travel&Words=3rd%20zeshua&Match=And&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=32350&Search=true#Post32350

 

I leave you with another question. First let me detail

 

the connections some of you may not have been aware of.

 

There was a direct connection between Pope John Paul II

 

and Terri Schiavo. As on got sicker, so did the other.

 

Is a 3rd Tragedy nigh?

Then you included it in your list of predictions.

 

What does Palestine have to do with the Pope and Terri Shiavo?

 

Why do you call Darby "old friend?"

 

You seem to have some private information about Pamela. I'm not the least bit curious WHAT the private information is, but I'd like you to explain how you got it.

 

 

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Zeshua,

 

Can you tell that the folks here have become skeptical possibly to the point of cynical when it comes to time travelers/communicators? It helps me to think of these exchanges as a thought experiment. I'll presume you are exactly what you say you are, maintaining disbelief but setting it aside to engage in a discussion. With that in mind....

 

What would happen to you if I moved beyond disbelief and fully into belief? What if I shared that belief with other people and they achieved a high level of belief? Would you have to change the past to make sure we did not attain belief? Would that kind of 'correction' be perceived by those people? As you make these changes to your past, do you perceive them in some way? I mean beyond reading your posts and our replies in archives of the Internet. Please describe.

 

 

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Welcome back Zeshua. Your timing is quite interesting...and well you should know why now wouldn't you?

 

I have a fast question which seems kinda weird to me, you say that you are connected in real-time to us. Fair enough. That does not mean tho, that you can't access other computers in your time, aka being able to read posts before they are even posted. Right now I can go to a website and see posts that were actually posted 10 years ago, or so. Why wouldn't you be able to do that??

 

Now it is interesting that you have come to the public now, after a few years have passed. I ask you, why haven't you contacted us? You know what I mean by US. And no, I am not talking about the United States. Your timing just seems weird to me...We will see if you do answer to this...cuse it seems like everytime we ask you some interesting stuff, you dissapear for some months....

 

I am just a little bit dissapointed with you.

 

 

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One thing I've been thinking of lately is that Zeshua claimed (I don't recall if it was in public or

 

private) that when she was a grade school student in 2008, her class spent some time studying

 

characters like Nostradamus, John Titor, and other would-be prophets and prognosticators. It is now

 

just one year away from 2008, and I feel completely confident that these sort of subjects are not

 

being discussed in today's public American schoolrooms, and I find it virtually impossible to believe

 

that anything whatsoever, no matter how huge, could change that status quo in just one year.

 

I'm really starting to just get tired of this whole thing. While IMO Zeshua's claims haven't yet been

 

decisively disproven, they certainly haven't been proven yet either, and the whole thing just seems

 

to be going nowhere.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Know what is really tough? Ok.....evidently we collectively created this reality, the time line we are now in. Yes, a civil war in America is what many are predicting as we talk. What could we do to alter this reality? Hm............the only way I know of is for us collectively (the planetary inhabitants as a whole) to meditate, think upon a better, alternate reality. :)

 

 

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There are a number of completely possible and arguably even somewhat likely ways our world could dramatically change for the worse over the next six months. America could suffer another terrorist attack, or the MidEast could have some flareup that affected the oil flow. Either way, such circumstances could make it look again as if Zeshua was not all smoke and mirrors after all, swinging the pendulum of belief the other way once more. However, that being said, there is still something of a fixed deadline to her whole tale, as she declared to the Zeshua Group a few months ago that all of our lives would be affected and considerably worsened by worldly events before the end of the year. While the noose seems to be tightening around her tale, it won't be completely dead in my eyes until that deadline comes and goes. If one or more of her predicted disasters don't arrive before that deadline, this thread will die an ignoble death immediately thereafter.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Alright, who's the joker? I've confirmed two distinct changes to my reality since last posting, including another case of the amazing building-out-of-nowhere phenomenon! I can picture some pasty, nose-picking geek pushing the "screw with Jim's head" button and giggling about it. Come out of that dark reality-mod control room before a grue eats you nose-picker!

 

 

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