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In Respnose to: I was happily enjoying "Jimmy Eat World's" tale of adventure and intrigue. Quaint and well-informed, to say the least. That's entertainment. But when this post from watcher hit, I laughed until I puked.

 

Yes it was all good entertainment until you get on here with your childish smear!!! Go get some candy and let the TT's play.

 

 

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In response to: Yawn. Peepo defends watcher. Peepo also defended Qronos16. Watcher reads a lot like Qronos16. The triangle is complete. You figure it out. Like I said, yawn.

 

Oh no another Rainman!!!!!!! Calling people Qronos and now watcher!!! I will defend any TT that gets put down by you John T freaks. I also like Jimmy he is good. I like how he handles some of you here.

 

 

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>>So the practise of cryonics is at least still happening then?<<

 

Cryonics is the same in 2044 as it is today- popsicle people. You do know you're nothing more than a body and a brain and "you" are electrical signals that dissipate when you die, right? The best way to preserve "you" is to fill a ziplock bag with your hair, fingernails, skin and a used Band Aid and put it in a safe- the younger the better.

 

>>What about nanotechnology, how far has that come by 2044?<<

 

They have nanites- what they do with them I don't really know. But I know there's huge advances in molecular biology. As to both questions, people are more philisophical in 2044 then they are today- we don't worry about ourselves as much as you do today. I think it's partly because it's the future so things are more convenient and partly because this is the "double otts" where you're experiencing "the decade of terrorism" firsthand... this is just a passing phase like McCarthyism or lynching blacks for being black- they were all the right thing to do at the right time. No insult, but in a decade, you'll see the error in your ways but life goes on. Have I told you folks about the origin of life? I think I already did on TTF- that explains my perspective best.

 

>>Also can we assume that the results of Gravity Probe-B will confirm Einstein's theory or will physics be turned on it's head?<<

 

I really don't know. I could google it and take an educated guess, but my guess is as good as yours. E=MC2 was a fact on July 16, 1945.

 

>>You mentioned that you have recieved weird spam (email)<<

 

Most of them are emails full of random words- thousands of them and it makes no sense. I just thought it was some autobot troll, I just delete them but it's weird because I have not given out my email- maybe my ISP is doing it. My computer's fan (I think) is running a lot- anyone??

 

>>does the technology exist today to build a working time machine?<<

 

I gave this one a lot of thought and well- yes and no. Does the technology exist to build a cell phone in the year 1500? It does, and I'm sure Dr. Emmitt Brown could make one in that time, but not really. Time travel took three decades to patent, I wouldn't even know where to begin. If you went back to 1974, could you invent a cell phone?

 

The time machine also has a huge energy requirement- each community has a built-in 24 hour battery backup. When the time machine is on, most of the south is on battery (or utility) power.

 

>>Also Titorian, you mention about not being able to interact with your past self, but what about interacting with friends or family in the past?<<

 

I also gave this a lot of thought as to how to properly explain it. Here goes. The further back in time you go, the more causal your being there will become. If you time travelled back 100,000 years, your sneezing on someone there will have eradicated the entire Binx race (bless you). If you went back and killed Jesus or Mohammed (PBUH), several billion people today would cease to exist. The same applies with indirect interaction. This is math in 2044- it's "how directly relevant is this to me?"

 

>I did memorize the Powerball numbers for Florida on a specific date in 2010- that will be my gift to you all for your participation in the end.<

 

>>Didn't you say before that you can't predict random outcomes<<

 

Yes- I cannot predict random outcomes. "That will be my gift to you all" means the circumstances surrounding the event, not winning lottery tickets- allegedly the winner was murdered, I wouldn't want the same thing to happen to you guys. It's a big thing in conspiracy circles... this is like me telling people in 1956 to go to Roswell next year to see something "out of this world".

 

>>Hello. I'm not saying that I believe you, but could you give me an account of what happens with the situation in North Korea? I would also like to know how Japan and South Korea are doing in your time<<

 

They're still on the maps. No World War Three. These are large concepts you're asking... they're still viable nations.

 

>>Seeing as how you gave us a Japanese name earlier, are there any names, or at least initials, of famous East Asian people that you can remember?<<

 

Only Japanese name I gave was Michio Kaku who is a New York resident. I don't pay much attention to the rest of the world. America is more "1950's-ish" in the 2040s... don't really know how to define it- we go about "just living our lives" more than you do today.

 

>>I can imagine a food shortage for poorer nations because of this.<<

 

That's some horrific stuff- people weighing gasoline over food. The way to end Global Warming is to get green. The more vegetation there is in the world, the less co2 is in the air (because life itself is CARBON-based). The way to get green is to make getting green profitable. The way to make green profitable is to make it readily available anywhere and the way to do this is with terraforming. The result of this is farms popping up all over the place providing an abundance of food and Global Warming starts reversing itself. There are some great agricultural technological advances coming... kinda like "auto-farms" run by robots.

 

People use ethanol in 2044 but there is no issue over food availability- we're the largest food producing nation in the world which is something to be proud about- we make so much damn food we burn it.

 

>>What about the ripple effect?<<

 

I explained it generally above. In specific regard, I get deja-vu a lot... "a lost memory of experiencing something firsthand from my distant past but here it is happening again for real, live". My eyesight is getting worser than it should be- I worry about this because it's my eyes... I think there's more black spots in my vision than there should be. It could be because I am not used to staring at a monitor or maybe because those individual optic nerves are decorporalizing... I worry myself to sleep thinking about that.

 

>>Does Darby play a physicsist in these Titor movies or something? LOL<<

 

Darby plays the straight man mostly. In some versions, he's the mastermind behind it all- in one story he's the mastermind and his typos spell out his name. I don't want to alter Darby too much- he is one of the main anchors to the John Titor story.

 

>>Can you go into further detail about CERN's discovery. What do you mean by "extra" energy when the machine is turned on? I want to know more about that and you didnt really go into it that well.<<

 

Put it this way: they turned the machine on as expected and the energy traveled 10 seconds back in time to arrive in the same point in space, thereby causing "twice the energy" to be there "the second time around" which is our reality... "there is only one tangable reality". This caused a time loop which made it factual... it really happened. Conservation was actually thrown off by a theoretical scientific experiment. (When did we know E really equals MC squared? July 16, 1945.)

 

As such, from the perspective of "our reality", when they turned the machine on, extra energy appeared from nowhere. They thought there was something wrong with the machine (it's a large machine trying to conduct subatomic experiments) so they spent millions recalibrating everything only to have the same result. Kaku proposed a reason as to why this was happening then 80 pages of indeciperable letter math formulas which launched a "time machine race".

 

>>is your future better than ours? In two ways: techonlogy and spiritualism?<<

 

Yes, but the future is always better.. I outlined above what 2044 is like- it's a lot easier place to live. Both parents don't have to work full time plus overtime just to pay the bills... life is easier- it's the 1950's all over again. But in regards to 2007, you guys need to look more into what's really important to life and not what that TV ad is telling you is important... you have too much media coming at you. But then again, I am an old man. (As a registered Republican I say: ) Clinton is "good-folk".

 

>>Like are there less deaths, less fear, less wars? Is the economy better? Less poor people? Etc.<<

 

Yeah- as the USA starts taking the United Nations seriously, the UN steps up and resolves a lot of issues. But the USA has to give this power up. If the President in 2044 pulled what Bush did in 2003, the USA would have been invaded by the UN as they sought to remove him from power just as he did to Saddam. Sad but true.

 

But these things happen just so we can see firsthand why these things should never happen- we only move forward by experience. 9/11 and now Iraq are the end of a dark decade in American history- both the USA and the Middle East don't want to fight anymore- in 2044, we (the USA and Iraq) pay attention to ourselves.

 

>>Any technological gadgets you could talk about? Are all the cellphones like the "iphone" or maybe even better?<<

 

3DTV is cool and so are holosims. Kids are getting chips implanted because it's the cool thing to do but us old folks are against it- I don't want a computer knowing my exact location within a millimeter every second of my life. They're not "Big Brother chips", they're like having a credit card in your head- the way clothes in department stores have those security tags on them... but it's possible to monitor someone's every movement (and don't get me started about the Penal System in 2044).

 

>>I wish you luck in your journey, hopefully you will fix it.<<

 

Thanks!

 

>>A) You cannot solve the problem of atomic displacement in your nonsense. Did your atoms temporally move? That would mean that this point in time in the universe has more matter and energy than a future point in time in the universe. This is impossible, and means that matter and energy have indeed been created and destroyed in linear time, which defies Einsteinian physics.<<

 

Yes- at this moment in time, the universe has more atoms in it than it did before I entered this timeline. Furthermore, the same identical atoms are here- both within 1,000 miles of each other.

 

The simplest answer is the "wave particle duality" in a matter of speaking. It's like putting two gigantic supermagnets on two boats in a lake- they will eventually be drawn towards each other but if they stay sufficiently apart from each other, they can co-exist. If his atoms reached me, nothing would happen. But if my atoms touched his, mine would decorporealize before they would reach him. If I mailed him a flake of my skin, when he opened it, it would be empty. This preserves conservation, which is what makes those early CERN experiments simply weird.

 

>>So don't go trying to claim Titor popularized the notion of moving in time.<<

 

Not at all- just Titor was popular. I said I was a Titor fan. Sure there's lots of movies about him in 2044- there's lots of movies period. Films are like youtube today, only made by millions of people. Titor was popular because he was kind of an action hero. In 2044 there's a million cliques each with a million people into it... it's a lot more localized.

 

PS- Darby- I did the "John Baez Crackpot Index" on my time traveler claim and I scored the same score as my SAT. What does that mean? :)

 

 

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"Most of them are emails full of random words- thousands of them and it makes no sense. I just thought it was some autobot troll, I just delete them but it's weird because I have not given out my email- maybe my ISP is doing it. My computer's fan (I think) is running a lot- anyone??"

 

You are deleting them? Don't delete them. This is very strange. This is not normal.

 

why don't you post them. Perhaps it is some kind of code and we can figure it out.

 

I would atleast like to see an example of one to satisfy my curiousity.

 

 

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"3DTV is cool "

 

Yeah they had a small article and picture of it in popular science last month.

 

"Yes- at this moment in time, the universe has more atoms in it than it did before I entered this timeline. Furthermore, the same identical atoms are here- both within 1,000 miles of each other.

 

The simplest answer is the "wave particle duality" in a matter of speaking. It's like putting two gigantic supermagnets on two boats in a lake- they will eventually be drawn towards each other but if they stay sufficiently apart from each other, they can co-exist. If his atoms reached me, nothing would happen. But if my atoms touched his, mine would decorporealize before they would reach him. If I mailed him a flake of my skin, when he opened it, it would be empty. This preserves conservation, which is what makes those early CERN experiments simply weird."

 

yeah. I (without thinking) sniffed the item John gave me from another worldline so now I probably have micro-atoms of some other worldline in my system via my nose. O_o

 

 

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Oh sorry it is actually in the February 2007 issue. page 25.

 

There probably is no link yet.

 

It is proposed for 2012.

 

MIT holographic monitor

 

3d images that float in space.

 

I guess the system creates a 3d hologram that pops out of the screen.

 

The picture they show popping out is a racecar. (rusty 2)

 

It shows the pictures from hundreds of angles to produce depth.

 

looks like they use Lithium niobate crystal.

 

The video signal is converted to electricity that stimulates

 

a piece of lithium niobate crystal, which produces sound waves

 

because of the current. These sound waves diffract the lasers

 

through the crystal which produces them into hundreds of slices of light.

 

The light travels through two mirrors that project it onto various angles

 

on the screen.

 

The slices of light then stack up on either side of the display to create that 3D hologram image.

 

 

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Titorian,

 

What are my characters in the movies made about John?

 

If we make so much food we burn it does that mean no one in America goes hungry anymore?

 

If robots take over most of the jobs then who buys the products?

 

Are you not afraid you might be accused of killing the winner since you know about it ahead of time?

 

So CERN plays a big part in developing time travel?

 

What if there are more time travelers than just you here? How does that factor into the decorporealization theories? Does anything happen if you run into another timetraveler from another time period? What if they all got together in a large room...what would happen if a hundred stood side by side all from different times?

 

How can you seriously talk about our futures being the same when you are here changing ours by interacting with us? ripples do happen. Some rocks thrown into the pond are small but large rocks thrown in can cause the whole pond to be disrupted.

 

This is what is meant by different timelines. You are changing ours if you are who you say you are.

 

How can you think you are not? I would like for you to explain more about physical timelines and ones that are not physical. Do you mean the timeline you came from has now become unphysical?

 

The timeline you are in now is changed from what it was before....simply because you are in it.

 

I guess I do not understand your view of it. Can you explain more about it?

 

 

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Pamela,

 

You are deleting them? Don't delete them. This is very strange. This is not normal.

Its not strange or unusual at all. Its called SPAM. Surely you receive SPAM that consists of random words in both the header and body, don't you? I filter out a dozen such emails every day.

 

And for God's sake please don't have him copy and paste them to the forum. Not all SPAM is harmless.

 

 

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Pamela,

 

It's the CIA's DDO for SPAM Filtering, i'm sure. ;)

 

I have to turn down the security a bit on my email so that I don't miss real email but still filter SPAM. So I get to see the SPAM if I want to. The upside is that once in a while real email gets filtered as SPAM therefore I don't lose it before it hits my email server. For examle, email about a post on Anomalies, TTI, TT Portal, etc. occassionally have words in the header or body that the SPAM blocker is set to filter.

 

 

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Titorian,

 

Supposing you are a real time traveller,

 

1. Can you travel back anytime?

 

2. Can you travel forward to anytime? How far can you travel forward?

 

3. Have you ever travelled forward in time?

 

4. You say you are from 2044 and not from another worldline. If you are not from another worldline, why are you from 2044 and not 2007? Why is your time ahead of ours? Well, you will say that if you discovered time travel now and travelled to 2000, you would be in the same position as mine, won't you? But what does this mean? Can each and every moment in the universe be experienced again and again? How can this be? Were you haunted by would-be time travellers in 2007, too?

 

6. Travelling in time, you can't postpone or advance the date you will die, can you? So, if you are destined to live a 60 year-old life, you won't be able to change it regardless of where or when you spent it, will you?

 

7. What if you decided to stay here for the rest of your life? Would it cause problems?

 

8. How can you travel a time when you are not born or already dead?

 

9. You say if you met your other self, you would decorporalize? So, what does that mean? What would happen to you? Would you die?

 

10. As you have travelled to 2007, you are non-existent in 2044 at the moment, right?

 

11. Well, you don't tell much about time travel actually. Is it a privilige to travel in time in 2044? Can a layman travel in time? What is the cost? Are tours organized? Has it turned into an industry? Time travel industry? Do people go to different times for their holidays?

 

12. What about criminals? Don't they misuse this discovery? What precautions have been taken against such misuses?

 

13. When you travel in time, are your actions watched by your government?

 

14. What if a careless time traveller leaks the critical info about time travel in 2007 and we discover time travel? What is the penalty for that? What happens when history has been changed?

 

15. What about Iran in 2044? If I'm not mistaken, you said you were from Iran. Are you a muslim?

 

16. What is time travel used for? Has the zeal of time travel vanished after the discovery? Or is it in its infancy yet?

 

17. If you are able to travel to the future, all lotteries must have been abolished. Right?

 

Enough for now. I will go on asking questions depending on your answers.

 

 

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Here's my problem.

 

why would a millionaire person who is dying of cancer go back to the past and leave all his loved ones and money behind (except for some gold bars, I think must have weighed you down somewhat on the trip)? Why go back to a time when medical management of cancer is not as advanced as his own time? Won't you end up dying even sooner?

 

I don't get it. :confused:

 

 

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