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charlies I just wonder? i just wonder there is a lot of Underground bases..but will people go there when the time of pole shift come?? or they all die in the underground?? write back..thank you..

 

You definitely do not want to be underground during the Pole Shift. The quakes will either crush the installation you are in..... or seal you in. My next post will outline the best way to ride out the actually pole shift.

 

 

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Hi Charlie,

 

I appreciate your replies, thank you. Now come to the real part of life, is it a STS act when one deliberately not to inform a clearly STS person about the impending disasters (provided he would believe once he is told)?

 

And how about deliberately not to rescue someone who is clearly a STS during the disasters (if he might threathen one's survival afterwards) ?

 

Hope you can shed some light on this.

 

 

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Hi Charlie,

 

I appreciate your replies, thank you. Now come to the real part of life, is it a STS act when one deliberately not to inform a clearly STS person about the impending disasters (provided he would believe once he is told)?

 

And how about deliberately not to rescue someone who is clearly a STS during the disasters (if he might threathen one's survival afterwards) ?

 

Hope you can shed some light on this.

Those are difficult questions without knowing more but consider this..... is not telling this person because you fear how he/she will affect others in your group in the aftermath or because it is easier for you not to tell him?

 

You have to understand that your actions dictate your orientation not your thoughts. You may have good intentions but it is whether you act on them that is the true test. If you think about being a volunteer or something like that and you think it is a good thing to do but you don't act on it then it is meaningless.

 

Being Service to Other means that you think and act for other people at least half the time. Self to Self is thinking about yourself and what is best for you over 90% of the time.

 

And regarding your second question, during the heat of the moment how will you determine the person is STO or STS? You won't. If faced with this situation, the STO will come to the rescue without a thought and the STS will not. If you rescue someone and invite them into your STO community and they turn out to be STS the community will have to decided as a group what is best for them.

 

Probably doesn't help you that much but I hope it sort of does. Remember it is your actions not your thoughts that dictate your orientation.

 

 

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charlies will the people over throw the Goverment when the polo shift?? write back..it 2009 when or how do we know about the pole shift coming?? will it be on TV live telling people to take cover or not?? write back..

Many people will look to the Government for help when it is obvious something is wrong. As recorded in my history, during the final weeks before the Pole Shift when it was obvious something was up (I will be discussing the final weeks in detail in the next post) the Police and Military tried to stop people from leaving the cities so the Government and Elite could easily leave. But not everybody was trying to leave, those in denial stayed and tried to go on with their lives and/or waited for the Government to come to their rescue.

 

Eventually, the Police and Military "grew a conscious" and let people leave and in many cases joined them but by then it was too late........

 

This is what we hope will be different this time..... We don't encourage to sit there waiting for Government help because it won't happen... what we hope will happen is that the people will be told during the final weeks and will be told the truth that there is nothing that can be done and what to expect. Additionally, martial law will not be called. This is how sure we are of how different it will be with Obama instead of McCain.

 

Even though we would like to see an announcement before the final weeks, we know that is possibly too much to hope for.

 

 

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Hello Charlie,

 

You gave so much information, thank you. I really hope that my family can detect the right time to move out from the big city we live in. My family is looking into buying a small land in upper New England to have better chances of surviving. I also know that many people, who are preparing themselves for pole shift, are building dome houses from concrete and steel reinforced roads. There is different information on this, some say it is the best way to go, some do not agree. What is your suggestion? Do you know if there were cases that the whole family will survive? Is it OK to kill in self-defense? Or it consider STS?

 

Amrita.

 

 

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Hello, this is my first time posting.

 

I have been following thisforum for awhile and I have a request

 

for you Timeline_39.

 

After reading through your postings I gather that the entire Earth's landmasses have changed dramtically and I'm just wondering,

 

could you possibly show us a map of the new topography.

 

 

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Hi Charlie,

 

I am new to the forum and relatively new to looking into detail on things like UFOs, Planet X and the mysteries of the world/ universe, But I have followed some of your posts and they do cover many things that are of interest to me or that I would like answers to.

 

I am uncertain if I believe what I am reading on this thread or IF I believe you or anyone is a real time traveller, BUT I certainly find it interesting . And if you are a Hoaxer you certainly go to a lot of trouble and time which one would have to question what you would get out of it.

 

The Forum members and Your replies certainly make some thought provoking questions.

 

I appologise if I have overlooked some thing and not yet managed read all the comments made so far that May answer some of my questions.

 

I surpose I was 50/50 on if I believe that time travellers could exist.. but as I get older

 

I certainly do think there is more to this life than pure coincidence..and IF time travel is or will be in the future at all possible, then I would say.. yes in theory it may well be a high possibilty.

 

Can I ask you a few initial questions ? as I say Appoligies if I have not as yet come across some of the past comments that MAY answer them.

 

You Mention about STS and STO....and How we are being judged in our actions and that we are are being tested and this seems to determine our fate and next life etc if IT does exist.

 

CAN I ASk WHO is judging US ? IS this related to the Bible or GOD as many believe in ?

 

YOU Mention Spirit Guides... Who or what are they ? Is this God as we know it, Angels, or Aliens that are controlling US ? CAN YOU GIVE US MORE DETAIL ON THIS as this is a HUGE question to me !

 

and I am sure many others..

 

WHY DO WE have to be tested ?

 

What are egs of STS.. that are seen as bad ? Would this be like speculators ? traders..

 

or are we talking criminals ? Mafia etc...

 

but if so what if they use their money for some sort of good !

 

Why are some people born much more stronger / cleverer than others, as these people will usually on average always do better in life and create more STO....or is this part of the rewards of our evolution through our past ancestors? Are they also keeping track one what we do ?

 

That depends on the orientation of the soul in question. If well on the way to Service to Other, it will be reincarnated back on Earth immediately in various incarnations. If undecided but leaning towards Service to Other, it would be up to the Spirit Guides based on the development of that particular soul. It may be granted permission to wait for the next available incarnation on Earth or it may go to another 3rd density world to continue it's lessons.

 

You say Atlantis is buried under the Sea of the West Coast of Africa, Can you be more specific and Is this OF Morroco or near the Canary Islands ?

 

Will we be able to see Planet " X " from the month of MAY 2009 ?

 

Are you suggesting that the Dow has bottomed now and will rally ?

 

IF so will this rally to new highs above the Oct 2007 14200 high ?

 

Many Analysts say once a market has initially fell 50% of its all time high that It is usually destined to go much lower !.... even lower than 5000...They say Cycles repeat and that its a similar repeat to that of 1929...only of a different time proportion.

 

In 1929 it topped in Sept 1929 and has fell 50% in just over 2 months of its all time high by Nov 13th 1929. It then rallied about 66% for about 6 months to April 1930 and the fell to July 1932.

 

The crash from 2007 took over a year to fall 50% and this may be a proportion of about 6 times that of what it took in 1929... If this reapeats we may see a big attempted rally for 12 months

 

then a further big decline.....

 

If Planet X is coming soon, within next 3 yrs, will this not see a much bigger decline to come.

 

When the Pole shift occurrs, Will it be possible to Survive any where in the UK ?

 

IF NOT where would you suggest they may ? would they have to head for the Alps in Europe ?

 

Where in Europe would be the best option... I have heard Turkey.

 

I think this will do for now...

 

thank you

 

TC

 

 

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Hello Charlie,

 

You gave so much information, thank you. I really hope that my family can detect the right time to move out from the big city we live in. My family is looking into buying a small land in upper New England to have better chances of surviving. I also know that many people, who are preparing themselves for pole shift, are building dome houses from concrete and steel reinforced roads. There is different information on this, some say it is the best way to go, some do not agree. What is your suggestion? Do you know if there were cases that the whole family will survive? Is it OK to kill in self-defense? Or it consider STS?

 

Amrita.

The New England area is one of the more safer areas in the US. It still suffered from major ground shaking but not as severe as other places. There is another positive for this region..... the tectonic re-adjustment that occurred around the world caused the St. Lawrence Seaway to widen. The rocky land was pushed up and gained elevation of around 500-550 feet but the polar melt took back what was gained plus another 150-200 feet. Therefore, homes that are today 150-200 feet above the coast line found themselves right on the coast line.

 

Dome structures are strong but that is not the concern. It is the ground they are built on that should be the focus. This goes for those roads you speak of as well.

 

Many families survived the shift and many of those families did make it to first contact.

 

Regarding you final question regarding killing in self defense.... I will need a more detailed example to answer it properly.

 

 

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Hello, this is my first time posting.

 

I have been following thisforum for awhile and I have a request

 

for you Timeline_39.

 

After reading through your postings I gather that the entire Earth's landmasses have changed dramtically and I'm just wondering,

 

could you possibly show us a map of the new topography.

We are preparing one and will release it soon.

 

 

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Hi Charlie,

 

Just thought of a few other questions.

 

Can you comment on what is really going on at the likes of Area 51..other than a Military Airbase.

 

Was Bob Lazars claims for real or a hoax ?

 

Are the really underground tunnels around the World connecting all the continents.?

 

Are there any Tunnels that do contain Alien civilizations on all the main Continents. or under the sea?

 

If so Are you aware of any in the U,K and where are they are based or there abouts ?

 

I read there was an old Myth that one was in Shropshire area from many year back and claims of unusual beings being sited.

 

thank you

 

TC

 

 

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Hello there,

 

I hope this answers your question to your satisfaction.

 

Hi Charlie,

 

I am new to the forum and relatively new to looking into detail on things like UFOs, Planet X and the mysteries of the world/ universe, But I have followed some of your posts and they do cover many things that are of interest to me or that I would like answers to.

 

I am uncertain if I believe what I am reading on this thread or IF I believe you or anyone is a real time traveller, BUT I certainly find it interesting . And if you are a Hoaxer you certainly go to a lot of trouble and time which one would have to question what you would get out of it.

 

The Forum members and Your replies certainly make some thought provoking questions.

 

I appologise if I have overlooked some thing and not yet managed read all the comments made so far that May answer some of my questions.

 

I surpose I was 50/50 on if I believe that time travellers could exist.. but as I get older

 

I certainly do think there is more to this life than pure coincidence..and IF time travel is or will be in the future at all possible, then I would say.. yes in theory it may well be a high possibilty.

 

Can I ask you a few initial questions ? as I say Appoligies if I have not as yet come across some of the past comments that MAY answer them.

 

You Mention about STS and STO....and How we are being judged in our actions and that we are are being tested and this seems to determine our fate and next life etc if IT does exist.

You have misunderstood. Nobody is judging or testing you. Your choices on how you live your life determines the path of your soul.

 

YOU Mention Spirit Guides... Who or what are they ? Is this God as we know it, Angels, or Aliens that are controlling US ? CAN YOU GIVE US MORE DETAIL ON THIS as this is a HUGE question to me ! and I am sure many others..

We are not sure exactly what the spirit guides are. Not even The Visitors we are in contact with know that. That information is only for beings in the much higher densities. What we do know that in this density, they place the souls in lives that would give them the opportunity to learn the lesson they need based on the souls development. We have very limited information on this process.

 

What I can say for sure that it is not God as your religions describe or Aliens.

 

What are egs of STS.. that are seen as bad ? Would this be like speculators ? traders..

 

or are we talking criminals ? Mafia etc...

Here is an example people can relate to..... say a group of 5 people walking down the street... they don't know each other and are simple walking in the same direction by chance. Then suddenly, a man who is in his 50s collapses possibly from a heart attack. 2 of these people instantly (without even thinking) rush to the mans aid and try to get him help. Of the other 2, 1 stays and watches the scene play out, not even asking if there is anything he/she can do to help. The other looks around for a second but keeps on walking... possibly saying to him/herself that there is enough people they don't need me in the way.

 

Ok... this is a very loose example but it should give you the general idea. Obviously, the 2 that instantly rushed to the mans aid áre possibly leaning towards STO. The one that hangs back debating within whether to get involved could be an undecided soul. And finally, the one that walks away is possibly leaning towards STS.

 

It takes more than one minor event like that to completely orientate a soul... it takes many of these sorts of steps over many incarnations towards either orientation to be classed as leaning.....

 

but if so what if they use their money for some sort of good !

Those with wealth who simply donate a sum to charity do so for more their own reasons that the charity. What have they done personally to get their hands dirty and make a difference? Nothing. They simply wrote a cheque.

 

Why are some people born much more stronger / cleverer than others, as these people will usually on average always do better in life and create more STO....or is this part of the rewards of our evolution through our past ancestors? Are they also keeping track one what we do ?

Genetics is a factor here but also the incarnating soul plays an important part.

 

You say Atlantis is buried under the Sea of the West Coast of Africa, Can you be more specific and Is this OF Morroco or near the Canary Islands ?

We cannot disclose the exact location of Atlantis as there still some Annunaki ruins that were not discovered before the Pole Shift. We cannot give information that will alter that outcome.

 

Will we be able to see Planet " X " from the month of MAY 2009 ?

No.

 

Are you suggesting that the Dow has bottomed now and will rally ?

 

IF so will this rally to new highs above the Oct 2007 14200 high ?

My previous statements regarding the DOW was to indicate the level (at least for now) that it will settle around. As the changes to the Earth get stronger in the lead up to the Pole Shift the world economy will take another hit.

 

When the Pole shift occurrs, Will it be possible to Survive any where in the UK ?

 

IF NOT where would you suggest they may ? would they have to head for the Alps in Europe ?

 

Where in Europe would be the best option... I have heard Turkey.

In a previous post, you would have read that New England gains ground elevation during the Pole Shift.... it is the opposite in England but not to the same extent. England will lose elevation at a level of approximately 100-120 feet. Combine this with the increased tidal activity in the oceans and you can picture that the coasts of England will not do well. Go to high ground and stay there....

 

i hope this answered your queries.

 

 

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Hi Charlie,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

I cannot seem to alter the font colour for my reply so I have placed a O_o icon on my comments.

 

You have answered some of my questions, but I am still a bit unclear about other certain ones.

 

when you say..........

 

You have misunderstood. Nobody is judging or testing you. Your choices on how you live your life determines the path of your soul.

 

O_o

 

MY CHOICES HOW I LIVE MY LIFE determines the path of my soul.... O_o

 

but you say I am not being judged or tested... Yet the eg you gave me on STO / STS and What actions those people took in that eg along with many other similar egs throught their life ...did in fact IN MY Opinion determine their orientation of their souls and was partially based upon a test of what they did or how they reacted.

 

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O_o

 

What we do know that in this density, they place the souls in lives that would give them the opportunity to learn the lesson they need based on the souls development. We have very limited information on this process.

 

You say that you are unsure exactly about the spirit guides are or as to much information about them.

 

So this almost seems like who ever the Spirit guides are that they are using our bodies to be a vessel to allow who ever they are, to place so called SOULS within US...

 

BUT for US to be here in the first place as bodies, we are created by two other bodies in our parents that also have so called souls.. but what came first the soul or the body and if the soul is 1st how did the body evolve ? would you have an answer to this at all ?

 

In a way it still seems like what we may describe as a more powerful source, maybe what we would consider a type of God.. or something above most consious beings in the universe.

 

be it human or Alien or what you call Visitors.

 

In reply to:

 

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YOU Mention Spirit Guides... Who or what are they ? Is this God as we know it, Angels, or Aliens that are controlling US ? CAN YOU GIVE US MORE DETAIL ON THIS as this is a HUGE question to me ! and I am sure many others..

 

We are not sure exactly what the spirit guides are. Not even The Visitors we are in contact with know that. That information is only for beings in the much higher densities. What we do know that in this density, they place the souls in lives that would give them the opportunity to learn the lesson they need based on the souls development. We have very limited information on this process.

 

What I can say for sure that it is not God as your religions describe or Aliens.

 

In reply to:

 

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O_o

 

I Can more or less understand your example Other than I am uncertain about exactly why we would need to have what you say are Many incarnations

 

What are egs of STS.. that are seen as bad ? Would this be like speculators ? traders..

 

or are we talking criminals ? Mafia etc...

 

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Here is an example people can relate to..... say a group of 5 people walking down the street... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Will we be able to see Planet " X " from the month of MAY 2009 ?

 

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No.

 

O_o

 

Will we be able to see it or better.. if so, can I ask you WHEN ?

 

In reply to:

 

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Are you suggesting that the Dow has bottomed now and will rally ?

 

IF so will this rally to new highs above the Oct 2007 14200 high ?

 

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My previous statements regarding the DOW was to indicate the level (at least for now) that it will settle around. As the changes to the Earth get stronger in the lead up to the Pole Shift the world economy will take another hit.

 

O_o

 

WOULD YOU BE PREPARED TO SAY ROUGHLY WHEN ? or better to convince us could you be specific ! a set date when the market may top again if its bottomed for now.

 

If its proportion to the 1929 crash it was actually about 8 times more longer from the high to recent lows in 2007 to 2009 initial decline to fall 50% retracement ( or just over)

 

2 months down in 1929s first decline ...

 

The 2007 high to 2009 low was about 16 to 17 months... about 8 times longer in terms of time.

 

so the next leg up in 1929 was 6 months..... 8 x this would be 4 years up.. to about 2013..

 

Very near the END of 2012.... early 2013 maybe.

 

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When the Pole shift occurrs, Will it be possible to Survive any where in the UK ?

 

IF NOT where would you suggest they may ? would they have to head for the Alps in Europe ?

 

Where in Europe would be the best option... I have heard Turkey.

 

O_o

 

CAN YOU SUGGEST the BEST SAFEST PLACES TO GO IN EUROPE / ALPS ? IS Turkey a good country 100 miles inland ?

 

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In a previous post, you would have read that New England gains ground elevation during the Pole Shift.... it is the opposite in England but not to the same extent. England will lose elevation at a level of approximately 100-120 feet. Combine this with the increased tidal activity in the oceans and you can picture that the coasts of England will not do well. Go to high ground and stay there....

 

O_o

 

SO High Ground like the Penines, or Lake District cumbrian mountains and scotland and wales

 

would be high enough to avoid wipe out..

 

I was under the impression Floods could be higher than 4000 ft..above Uks highest mountain.

 

The problem would be high populations are near by some of these areas.

 

i hope this answered your queries.

 

 

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Charles (Charles Haynes?),

 

1. What is soul? Some kind of energy?

 

2. How can you answer every single question from us?

 

3. You still have connection to your EarthNet in our timeline now?

 

4. Who invented AIDS and when? I believe you mentioned there was cure for AIDS in your time?

 

5. Regarding the Moon Orbit question, how can you possibly know that?

 

6. The God created the soul. Who created the container (the body)? Why make the container so complicated?

 

7. Do animals have soul and why have/have not?

 

8. Do plants have soul and why have/have not?

 

9. How do you know there is no government agent monitoring this website and doing something for STS and completely change your plan?

 

 

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