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i made a mistake, the date is 12,950 BC

 

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[Above (left): Virtual image of the intense auroral plasma column as viewed at an angle of inclination, not to scale. Above (right): Conceptual view of the Birkeland sheath filaments surrounding Earth (28 close pairs). The relativistic electron flow is downwards toward Antarctica. The current bundle above Antarctica twists in counter-clockwise rotation. By convention, the Birkeland currents and ion flow is upwards toward the Arctic. Not yet completely resolved is a bend in the upper filament sheath that allows the upper plasmoids and column to be seen at northern latitudes.]

 

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The term z-pinch originates from experiments where physicists made extremely high current to flow through thin wires that were arranged vertically in a tubular formation. They noticed that the energy quickly vaporized the wires, but the magnetic field generated by these paths remained and contained (or "pinched") the stream of energy, collapsing the streams of energy toward the center of the tube-like configuration -- called the z-axis. When the streams of energy converge, they form unique shapes that persist and can be observed as Birkeland elements, named for their discoverer.

 

If the Earth was zapped by high energy radiation, either from the Sun or the Galactic core, the planet would be surrounded with distinct lines of energy, converging at the North and South pole. These bands would continue to extend well out from the planet's poles and into space and would be visible from almost every point on Earth -- each with its own unique perspective.

 

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The Previous Doomsday...

 

 

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It is in the "cursive" style where individual letters are combined and are read from right to left, from top to bottom. Although there is not enough translation completed at this writing to determine the specific message, the multiple references to "breed" and "pedigree," as well as references to fleeing from "poisonous powder" (dust) and "painful light," is quite interesting and suggest either a prophecy, or an event in the history of the authors.

Baloney.

 

You can paste pictures of Petroglyphs until this site exceeds its bandwidth again, won't change the fact that these inscriptions have nothing to do with prophecies of doom for us. These people had enough to worry about in their day, let alone to worry about somebody 10,000 years later.

 

I have said what I had to say regarding the petroglyphs, and if anyone prefers to buy into the nonsense about the petroglyphs, that is their choice, all the more the pity.

 

 

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Regarding the Trash Compactor, it would seem more appropriate for you, than me. I am not the one pacing up and down the sidewalk with a The End Is Near sign.

 

Should be more diligent, Recall, somebody got a picture from outside your apartment.

 

""We tried a desperate game and lost. But we are tough men used to tough ways, and we have to abide by the consequences." -- Cole Younger

 

Dont do that Kerr.. Its not true and it doesn't suit ya..

 

(your kinda bad at it).

 

I bet ya have another type of sarcasm, that you are good at, but that one may need a lot of refinement.

 

And BTW thanks..for previous stuff..:)

 

 

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Dont do that Kerr.. Its not true and it doesn't suit ya..

 

(your kinda bad at it).

 

I bet ya have another type of sarcasm, that you are good at, but that one may need a lot of refinement.

 

And BTW thanks..for previous stuff..:)

Y/W..anytime. Can't express how happy I am to see you posting here.

 

The sarcasm ? Yeah, you're right ( sigh ), Recall is much better than I am at that, as far as maintaining humor in them, and that was the only picture I could find of a End is Near sign that even came close to what I had in mind.

 

Still doesn't take away from the fact that the petroglyphs in the photographs have been studied for years, and I was a member of a crew that did just that in the Mojave Desert. Those publications listed above are a result of our work, and it was difficult work to do. We must have sorted through a minimum of 10,000 Petroglyphs, and knowing the history of the rock art and people that created the inscriptions, makes explainations as pasted above, a bit hard to take.

 

Whether the world ends soon, it may do so, however, none of "those" petroglyphs are portraying such a thing, and to indicate that they do is like spitting in the faces of the people that have spent "years" in research and trying to protect them from people doing exactly what the site that was used as source has done.

 

I would encourage anyone who does have an interest in Petroglyphs to take the time to really find out more about them, and learn more about the people that did the inscriptions, from the Museums, the publications such as those we wrote, but not from fringe sites making up a bunch of baloney.

 

 

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I think that these last two posts are what we classify as passive-aggressive. But what do I know. I'm probably one of "your kind" and my opinion is likely rubbish to be dismissed by one specific group of researchers who appear to speak for "we".

Aye.

 

Keep in mind, as so aptly pointed out, everyone IS free to choose what they want to believe, even it is in fact a wrong thing to believe in. So any rubbish produced by "our kind" just because of years of research and experience "should be" be dismissed by those reseachers of the "other kind" that produce a "belief" just because.

 

Ask Bernie Madoff's 4,800 clients who got bilked out of $64.8 billion in the giant Ponzi scheme.

 

I agree with Forest Keeper, what would NASA know compared to somebody that bought a $50 telescope from Wal-Mart and a $200 degree from affordabledegrees.com, you know the "University" where you can get a degree with :

 

No Studies

 

No Attendance

 

No Waiting

 

No Examinations

 

in as little as 5 days !

 

I know I've already have had enough with the space junk that NASA has been feeding us with, and I certainly won't put up with it anymore.

 

;)

 

 

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Forest Keeper:

 

You should know better not to argue with a pro who is definitely a know-it-all.

Perhaps you do not know that recall15 has a long history here of leaving links and quoting material that waves red flags of gloom and doom about some upcoming event. Perhaps you also do not know that recall15 has been absolutely incorrect in every single one of these "warnings" of the future he was posting. So with his batting record being zero, I would say that those who believe the stories he is peddling for the next big future event are lacking in some critical thinking skills.

 

As for KerrTexas: He is a lot like me, in that rarely does he speak with authority on a topic he does not know a lot about. Yet when you look at the range of topics recall15 posts on (even though none of what he posts are his own words, or research), I guess we are supposed to assume that recall15 is knowledgeable on all these topics...? Hmmph.

 

Believe what you wish. But if you think it is not harmful to believe things are true that have little (or no) evidence, then perhaps you should research the War Of The Worlds broadcast that took place in America back in the 1950s...to see what "belief without foundation" can result in... far from harmless.

 

RMT

 

 

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FYI: War of The Worlds 193x

 

Believe what you wish. But if you think it is not harmful to believe things are true that have little (or no) evidence, then perhaps you should research the War Of The Worlds broadcast that took place in America back in the 1950s...to see what "belief without foundation" can result in... far from harmless.

Nothing happen in these date 1950

 

You may quoted the resoruces like this:

 

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The War of the Worlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology series Mercury Theatre on the Air. It was performed as a Halloween episode of the series on October 30, 1938 and aired over the Columbia Broadcasting System radio network. Directed and narrated by Orson Welles, the episode was an adaptation of H. G. Wells' novel The War of the Worlds.

 

 

 

The first two thirds of the 60-minute broadcast was presented as a series of simulated news bulletins, which suggested to many listeners that an actual Martian invasion was in progress. Compounding the issue was the fact that the Mercury Theatre on the Air was a 'sustaining show' (i.e., it ran without commercial breaks), thus adding to the dramatic effect. Although there were sensationalist accounts in the press about a supposed panic in response to the broadcast, the precise extent of listener response has been debated. In the days following the adaptation, however, there was widespread outrage. The program's news-bulletin format was decried as cruelly deceptive by some newspapers and public figures, leading to an outcry against the perpetrators of the broadcast, but the episode launched Orson Welles to fame.

 

 

 

Welles' adaptation was one of the Radio Project's first studies.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(radio)

 

in other case as the precede post you start writing

 

Science Fiction

 

-0wne3d-, :D :D :D

 

 

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recall15 is harmless, he is just sharing what he wish others to know. Anyone is free to disagree with him and me, just leaving us alone would be the best approach in this situation, don't you think?

I'm sure Jim Jones would agree with you.

 

You don't know who is reading these posts, other than those of us who are participating, and you don't know who might be taking these so-called "harmless" posts seriously, and you don't know who might react because of what they read.

 

The world might end in 2012. With absolute certainty of what will happen in 2012 ,nobody could say either way. However, what are the probabilites of the world ending in 2012 ?

 

I already can throw in a prophecy of my own, that on January 1st, 2013, all these"experts of doom" will claim they made a mistake with thier calculations and present a corrected date of doom.

 

When something is brought in AS support and that I KNOW is WRONG, those readers ( the lurkers ) that are out there, deserve to be presented with BOTH sides, and then can weigh the evidence, and decide for themselves what to believe or not to believe, and I will certainly say something .

 

To have any subject regarding an end of the world scenario is serious enough to warrant two sides for review.

 

When I see the continuous string of doom being posted, and requests to be "left alone " is hauntingly very similar to Jim Jones and Jonestown.

 

Jim Jones

 

This means that if "anyone" posts material that is flawed and based on fringe research, then the answer to being left alone, is NO !

 

 

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Nothing happen in these date 1950

 

You may quoted the resoruces like this:

 

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The War of the Worlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology series Mercury Theatre on the Air. It was performed as a Halloween episode of the series on October 30, 1938

Unlike you, recall, I will admit when I am wrong...instead of just ignoring it, like you do.

 

Yes, I did NOT go back and research the date of the War of the Worlds broadcast. Yes, the date you cite from Wikipedia here is correct. Yet it does not invalidate my point.

 

I hope you are happy that you "pwned" me...if that is the best you can do, perhaps you are not as intelligent as I gave you credit for.

 

RMT

 

 

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Hi Recall,

 

Nice find...

 

It will be fasenating to find out what comes of it.

 

I havent really studied Atlantis in detail, I just recall the basic myths, and will need to learn some facts.

 

I would have thought though if it did exists, that it would have been closer to one of the the main land continents.. so I am a bit unsure about it..

 

there have been several claims in the last 10 to 15 yrs by experts ranging from two locations near to the United Kingdom which again I would be doubtful myself..unless back then the climate had been a lot warmer all year around...The UK presntly is cold in the Winter compared to the Mediteranian or closer tothe tropics. I dont think the UK would be my idea of Atlantis !

 

It makes a educational and thought provoking read though.

 

what I am not clear about is what google says in the article.....

 

More problematic still, the grid of lines doesn't exist on the sea floor. According to Google, the pattern is an 'artifact' of its map-making process.

 

What ever it will be of interest to us all as to what it is !!!

 

I just recently came across this that I thought was good...on ABC news..

 

Texas Gulf Treasure

 

Mar. 23, 2009

 

Its a video about a man who read a book about Lost treasure and a sunken spanish ship from the 1700s of Texas in the USA and decided to see if he could see any evidence of it using google Earth.

 

I did a bit of searching myself and I have found the area and a couple of possibilities.

 

The video does show what I think is the area. but he may have shown some of it to mislead anyone who thinks they can find it by studying it in detail..

 

It took me a fair bit of detective work to eventually find where I think it is..

 

http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=google%20treasure%20find&type=

 

 

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PS

 

yes I forgot to say, see what Charlie has to say.. :) and if it proves to be the case

 

I wonder why he did not want to tell us.... :)

 

We cannot disclose the exact location of Atlantis as there still some Annunaki ruins that were not discovered before the Pole Shift. We cannot give information that will alter that outcome."

 

 

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Hint:

 

1.there is a bug in the Gregorian Calendar...

 

2. There was two reforms to two Calendars The Gregorian and The Julian...

 

a. You Can Calculate the days count in Excess or not, this will give the day and year of the end of the Mayan Calendar.

 

b. You can Add or Subtract days to update the tables of Venus in the Dresden Codex, and you will find in these codex the reference of what you are looking...

 

 

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timeline 39 or Charlie,

 

<font color="done"> What is the most obvious evidence that pole shift is imminent?

 

What is the most obvious sign that planet X is inbound?

 

The answer I expect is not a generic one...:)) [/color]

 

Last but not the least, what is the threat level on India, Sri Lanka and Maldive Islands?

 

You mentioned to the reader from Malaysia to avoid Bay of Bengal sea are for a possible avacuation route.

 

What is the reason for this?

 

Can you please answer these questions?

 

 

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Re: FYI: War of The Worlds 193x

 

Hello, I`m Recall

 

What is the most obvious evidence that pole shift is imminent?

 

What is the most obvious sign that planet X is inbound?

 

The answer I expect is not a generic one...:))

 

Last but not the least, what is the threat level on India, Sri Lanka and Maldive Islands?

 

You mentioned to the reader from Malaysia to avoid Bay of Bengal sea are for a possible avacuation route.

 

What is the reason for this?

 

Can you please answer these questions?

1. it happens in the Past, it will happen again...

 

2. Quoting Charlie:

 

 

MIDDLE EAST & INDIA

 

 

 

India & Pakistan were forced under the Himalayan Mountains by the Australian plate due to Pacific compression. The earthquakes associated with this were very violent leaving few survivors. As a double blow, the crust rearranged positioned India near the new South Pole causing a dramatic change in climate.

 

 

 

Nepal's climate also changed due to its closer position to the South Pole.

 

 

 

Karachi was swamped by tidal bore due to low elevation but was made worse when its eastern side was pulled slightly downwards when India got pushed under the Himalayas.

 

 

 

Iran & Iraq are essentially now Polar Regions being that close to the new South Pole having been pulled away totally from the African plate.

 

Then read the 2 first post of this thread...

 

3.The Volcanoes will Explode and the Tsunamis and High Winds...

 

Best Regards

 

 

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MIDDLE EAST & INDIA

 

India & Pakistan were forced under the Himalayan Mountains by the Australian plate due to Pacific compression. The earthquakes associated with this were very violent leaving few survivors. As a double blow, the crust rearranged positioned India near the new South Pole causing a dramatic change in climate.

 

Nepal's climate also changed due to its closer position to the South Pole.

 

Karachi was swamped by tidal bore due to low elevation but was made worse when its eastern side was pulled slightly downwards when India got pushed under the Himalayas.

 

Iran & Iraq are essentially now Polar Regions being that close to the new South Pole having been pulled away totally from the African plate.

As IF this happened in a few hours, or a few days, or even in a few years ?

 

Although the Earth can go through some violent events, events such as continental or tectonic plates "smashing" together, is a process that took millions of years.

 

The shifting of the lithosphere, isn't as though such an event will occur overnight, in a week, in a year, or even for hundreds of years.

 

If people happen to read about plate tectonics and the history thereof...

 

Where plates serving landmasses collide, the crust crumples and buckles into mountain ranges. India and Asia crashed about 55 million years ago, slowly giving rise to the Himalaya, the highest mountain system on Earth.

 

On land, giant troughs such as the Great Rift Valley in Africa form where plates are tugged apart. If the plates there continue to diverge, millions of years from now eastern Africa will split from the continent to form a new landmass. A mid-ocean ridge would then mark the boundary between the plates.

 

Around the internet, we can find mention of Pangaea. A Contental Mass that once existed, and some articles seem to indicate that the doom that befell Pangaea, will happen to us. As seems to be a favorite comment : "It happened once, and will happen again."

 

Well, lets see, Pangaea existed during the Permian Period approx. 225 million years ago. Then Pangaea, slowly, drifted apart and the Continental Plates shifted into different configuration's through-out different "periods" millions of years in duration. What kind of span of time is involved :

 

The Triassic Period = 200 Million Years Ago

 

The Jurassic Period = 135 Million Years Ago

 

Cretaceous Period = 65 Million Years Ago

 

That there is movement along faults lines and the boundaries of the plates, is a well known fact. Most of the casualties are because people aren't prepared, so, I will give the club of doom a nod as far as preparation for certain events.

 

However, to make a claim that any plate is going to "suddenly" shift causing extreme changes immediately, is a wee bit of a stretch.

 

For those who have a lifespan of millions of years, maybe you should worry, however, for the rest of the people who have shorter lifespans, I don't think you need to give the movement of the continental plates much thought filled with dread and doom.

 

When eastern Africa splits from the continent to form a new landmass, millions of years from now , who living today, should begin drawing up the blueprints for a new harbor or a new sea-side town, now ?

 

Despite the proclaimations of doom, that people will go to bed one day, and wake up the next to see an ocean or sea where there isn't one now, is highly improbable.

 

It would be interesting to see how well prepared the proclaimers of all this doom and gloom really are for these events that they seem to continue to speak of...

 

 

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timeline 39 or Charlie,

 

What is the most obvious evidence that pole shift is imminent?

 

What is the most obvious sign that planet X is inbound?

 

The answer I expect is not a generic one...:))

 

Last but not the least, what is the threat level on India, Sri Lanka and Maldive Islands?

 

You mentioned to the reader from Malaysia to avoid Bay of Bengal sea are for a possible avacuation route.

 

What is the reason for this?

 

Can you please answer these questions?

Hello mayak1,

 

I understand that abnormal weather and quakes are localised and are not affecting enough people as a whole at present. I have mentioned before that Luna's orbit around the Earth is being affected by the Anomaly and this is something that everybody can track on a regular basis.

 

Luna (or what is still called The Moon in this time) typically has a slight orbital inclination to the ecliptic of 5 degrees. While Luna orbits the Earth, it is the Sun that dictates this inclination. With the Anomaly approaching from the direction of the Sun from beneath the ecliptic, it's magnetic proximity it affecting Luna and causing it to bob up and down in it's orbit. As I have previously suggested, note where Luna is against a fixed object (mountain, lightpole, tree etc.) and come back a week or two later and see how much higher/lower Luna is against that object. You will see that it has moved much more than 5 degrees in the sky.

 

Other signs will start increasing as the Anomaly leaves the Sun's primary magnetic zone one being the return of sunspots as well as increasing quakes in number and severity..... we will give greater detail when the time is right.......

 

Sadly, India/Sri Lanka are regions what we termed a total loss region and this is for two main reasion. Firstly, it is because these countries are on the Indo-Australian plate. What is happening ever so slowly right now is that the western side of the Indo-Australia plate is sinking with India being pushed under the Himalayas. This process will be greatly accelerated during the pole shift with the western half of Australia, India and Sri Lanka going under the waves. Secondly, for those who survive this, this region will be very close to what will be the new geographical south pole. So the survivors of the land disappearing into the ocean had to deal with severe climate change. It was the combination of the two that sealed the fate of those in this region.

 

 

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L`Aquila

 

Speaking of Quakes:

 

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Page last updated at 11:47 GMT, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 12:47 UK

 

Aftershocks hamper Italian rescue

 

Fresh aftershocks have rattled earthquake-hit central Italy, killing at least one more person and hampering the search for survivors.

 

The latest tremor struck at 0627 local time (0427 GMT) in L'Aquila, epicentre of Monday's 6.2-magnitude quake.

 

The aftershocks brought down masonry from already damaged buildings and one tremor was felt as far away as Rome.

 

As the desperate search for survivors continues, officials have raised the death toll from the quake to 250.

 

Another 100 people are reported to be in a serious condition and some 20,000 people were made homeless.

 

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Thank you very much for the reply Charlie.

 

I never expect a reply infact a quick one like this.

 

 

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Folks, please read the following article on newscientist...

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.300

 

Space storm alert: 90 seconds from catastrophe

 

* 23 March 2009 by Michael Brooks

 

* Magazine issue 2700. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.

 

* For similar stories, visit the Solar System Topic Guide

 

Read full article

 

Continue reading page |1 |2 |3

 

Video: When plasma is flung at Earth

 

Related editorial: We must heed the threat of solar storms

 

IT IS midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colourful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

 

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometres away on the surface of the sun.

 

It sounds ridiculous. Surely the sun couldn't create so profound a disaster on Earth. Yet an extraordinary report funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in January this year claims it could do just that.

 

Over the last few decades, western civilisations have busily sown the seeds of their own destruction. Our modern way of life, with its reliance on technology, has unwittingly exposed us to an extraordinary danger: plasma balls spewed from the surface of the sun could wipe out our power grids, with catastrophic consequences.

 

The projections of just how catastrophic make chilling reading. "We're moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster," says Daniel Baker, a space weather expert based at the University of Colorado in Boulder, and chair of the NAS committee responsible for the report.

 

It is hard to conceive of the sun wiping out a large amount of our hard-earned progress. Nevertheless, it is possible. The surface of the sun is a roiling mass of plasma - charged high-energy particles - some of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind. From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tonne glob of plasma, a fireball known as a coronal mass ejection (see "When hell comes to Earth"). If one should hit the Earth's magnetic shield, the result could be truly devastating.

 

The incursion of the plasma into our atmosphere causes rapid changes in the configuration of Earth's magnetic field which, in turn, induce currents in the long wires of the power grids. The grids were not built to handle this sort of direct current electricity. The greatest danger is at the step-up and step-down transformers used to convert power from its transport voltage to domestically useful voltage. The increased DC current creates strong magnetic fields that saturate a transformer's magnetic core. The result is runaway current in the transformer's copper wiring, which rapidly heats up and melts. This is exactly what happened in the Canadian province of Quebec in March 1989, and six million people spent 9 hours without electricity. But things could get much, much worse than that.

 

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http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html

 

Future Threat to Global Electric Grid: We have been contacted by the wife of an electrical engineer who has been officially briefed about a serious major threat to infrastructure in a few years' time.

 

We believe this information is credible and important but the contact may now have been lost. Therefore we are publishing what we have - with many questions unanswered. This is the first message we received, on 27 March:

 

Hello B & K

 

My husband is an electrical engineer for a national power company. He has just been told that they are expecting an event in the next 3-4 years that will render every transformer in the world useless. They are desperately trying to find a solution to the problem. If they don't, the entire global electrical system will go down. I know this fits in with some of your research. Have you heard about this?

 

In answer to my questions, she then replied:

 

Hi Bill: My husband is working away from home at the moment on this problem, and I have no way of contacting him. He is not allowed to carry a cellphone on the job. I'll clarify with him when I speak to him next, but the impression I got was that it was definitely going to happen. He mentioned something about electromagnetic clouds in space that the Earth is drifting into. They are under incredible pressure to find a solution. My husband is an engineer, a man of rational logic. He is not prone to flights of fancy, but this news has disturbed him no end.

 

 

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