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I'm starting to wonder who around here is going to have some quip against Pamela or " Titor was a hoax" engraved into their tombstone's.

 

To Michael : What gives with you ? I've never read any post written by you that is not some sort of insult. Nothing beyond two lines of negative remarks...not one positive contribution what-so-ever.

 

Why are you even here ?

 

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" While my book Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea is entirely a work of imagination, my conviction is that all I said in it will come to pass. " ~ Jules Verne

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Michael,

 

Come on. I have to agree with KT. Sure, over the years Pamela and I have had some really heated discussions over Titor. We're much more often that not on opposite sides of the Titor Fence. But she should be put in a mental institution because of her ideas about John TItor? By that standard we all need to be put in a mental hospital for even logging onto a time travel website hosted by ze gut Herr Dr. Gunthar Von Schnelling. A bit over the top on the quip, my friend.

 

Besides, with the deep sarcasm you risk ending up like Ray and me - Stalinist dictators (alternatively Nazi dictators) taking over the site apparently by reaching through cyber-space with our sarcastic mystic electronic hands into some members' computer rooms, grabbing them by the neck and shaking them until they comply. ;)

 

 

Just another damned cowboy with a college education.

 

 

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Besides, with the deep sarcasm you risk ending up like Ray and me - Stalinist dictators (alternatively Nazi dictators) taking over the site apparently by reaching through cyber-space with our sarcastic mystic electronic hands into some members' computer rooms, grabbing them by the neck and shaking them until they comply.

I am enjoying playing CIA super-secret spy at the mo. Don't distract me, as I am beginning to get a feel for how Gary Bekkum must feel these days. I'll go back to dictator once the allure of the CIA wears off. :)

 

RMT

 

 

corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

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Oncomingstorm,

 

I just wanted to thank you for the song reference.(secrets) I have never heard of them before you mentioned them. I liked it so much I went out and bought the Sirens of the Sea cd. You may perhaps see it again in reference to me as I plan on using that song in the future for something. Maybe... as you know nothing is for certain. ;)

 

I must leave for a little while again lots of things to do. Be back later.

 

Kerr, when I get back I will tell you what I think of the book (The one you mentioned by name) I most definitely will read it if I can get ahold of it.

 

-Pamela

 

 

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Oncomingstorm,

 

I just wanted to thank you for the song reference.(secrets) I have never heard of them before you mentioned them. I liked it so much I went out and bought the Sirens of the Sea cd. You may perhaps see it again in reference to me as I plan on using that song in the future for something. Maybe... as you know nothing is for certain.

No problem. Great artist in my opinion. They have some nice upbeat remixes too. :)

 

 

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And here I thought that Titor stated that he would come back and talk to us again after the War.

 

And as for anything else, everyone can pay for the "Cash for Clunkers", another program from the Clunking Brains of Congress that should be Scrapped. No real value there for anyone who was getting gas mileage in the first place as many were, only the ones that bought the bigger engines anyway, although some I suppose had to, but any other person spending money on gas, was thinking about that in the first place.

 

As to Divergence, there is a bunch right there, and quantum computer would only give you an answer in the first place not like a normal linear computer sequence.

 

Visit I guess PhysOrg.com for anything new, although I still think that some of it like always, is just hype and advertisement.

 

What were the salespeople in all the car dealers going to do after the "Cash for Clunkers"?

 

Go back to way worse previous sales of new vehicles?

 

Yep, now that is divergence perhaps going on with yet another great deal from Congress like the real-estate market and again, who is going to get the blame?

 

Delusional in the brain perhaps with what is going on, keep on being delusional, for I fail to see why Titor still has to really tell anyone anything in the first place or be accurate. Either he is not or either he is.

 

To look up or not, perhaps that is the question.

 

Whether to know or not to know may be an answer.

 

Whether to dream or not perhaps we may never know.

 

 

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to ruin your lives...

 

 

Some people on this web site have very disturbing personalities.

 

I definitely would not want to meet some of them in person.

 

Some people are very dark and have very little light in them.

 

anyhoo enough of this for today...off to the book store.

 

Aren't book stores wonderful? I can not walk into a bookstore and

 

not buy a book. I always see atleast one book that is so interesting

 

I have just got to read it. So of course the visit to the bookstore is

 

only reserved for payday weekends. lol :)

 

 

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Some people on this web site have very disturbing personalities.

 

I definitely would not want to meet some of them in person.

 

Some people are very dark and have very little light in them.

 

anyhoo enough of this for today...off to the book store.

 

Aren't book stores wonderful? I can not walk into a bookstore and

 

not buy a book. I always see atleast one book that is so interesting

 

I have just got to read it. So of course the visit to the bookstore is

 

only reserved for payday weekends. lol

Yes it is true people sometimes dispay dark sides but that is probably just because they are unhappy in some way. Some people or ok once you get to known them but problem is they still carry that dark side around with them.

 

 

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Some people on this web site have very disturbing personalities.

 

I definitely would not want to meet some of them in person.

 

Some people are very dark and have very little light in them.

I'm not disagreeing. Some people worry me for their possible interactions with others.

 

I think this points out an obvious common oversight. That being, superficial qualities vs. deeper essence.

 

I'd imagine that friendships and families delve typically deeper into the more complex of the two, however every bond is a very personal thing with many degrees between for every example.

 

What's life without uniquely perceived variable?

 

The mystique and intrigue I'd think (that as in mentioned above), is once again a very personal understanding.

 

It's funny how everything seems inevitably to come back to a balance of sorts.

 

So back to the original point - I think you're very wise in the cautions that must preclude anything with 'chaotic' seeming qualities.

 

Though my point once again, is that, until we believe we have a true sense 'of the deeper essence' (that which truely exhibits the intent), there is much to learn on all sides of every table.

 

I don't say that with bias, but with hopefulness.

 

For every larger percentage I have been 'wary' of, there has been that much more in the worth of the undiscovered, and back to perception - obscured.

 

Communication and translation. Science and the pseudo. For every emotion and logic, we have a tendency of the head and heart lines. Similar in their outcome perceived, though much different in approach to their method prior to observation.

 

Do inevitable prejudiced statistics count? We're all human, and that has to be part of our better senses. I use the word prejudice in an universally shared context of helpful but changing bias. The inevitable, what has occurred, is occurring and will occur. Evolution of sorts, not the reference to a 'missing link' or how a dinosaur became a bird, but the idea that with the universe being in motion, and all life moving forward in time, that everything undergoes transitions. That being said, some transitions have different potential.

 

Potential in this respect could not be attributed to genetics only, but the course of free will.

 

Explaining why we are a hopeful people in some ways I'd think. Since inherent in our ideals is the idea of positive change, the gradual, the course of the world and so many new discoveries therein.

 

For every disturbing person I've met, there's been someone along the way to remind me that everyone's different. Finding the best or worst in someone is something I think we're all guilty of at times. Has anyone in paticular disturbed me on this site? Nope.

 

Though I have been worried in retrospect solely of how some very sensitive people may misconstrue a topic of debate.

 

Reactor? I don't think he necessarily meant harm, however -

 

A big 'however' - in reference to posting the US army field guide alongside govermental styles currently at tension only serves to promote conflicted subliminal messages to some of the 'glancing' population.

 

Though as reminded by RMT, intent is key and knowing Reactor, there's certainly no 'conspiracy' however we still have to be careful how our 'frustrated outbursts' may be digested, and perceived by others. (I'm not lecturing at all, this is in the purest sense a sharing of personal reflection in regards to the topic).

 

So all in all, yeah maybe coming to this site is constructive in the sense; not only can a person 'learn' something, but it's possible to learn something about ourselves.

 

Interesting as always :)

 

 

Happy Holidays

 

Ergo ego = I am, you are.

 

 

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  • 11 years later...
On 7/26/2009 at 9:21 PM, pamela said:

Dearest John,

 

I have last spoken to you about ten years ago.

 

By now everyone (including me sometimes) thinks you are

 

just a story some guy made up on the internet.

 

However I have kept in my heart all of the unexplained things

 

that have happened concerning you and to this day have no

 

real explanation.

 

However, in the least bit chance you were real I am making

 

this special request.

 

Remember before you left you asked me a question?

 

That question was "What can I do for you is there anything you would

 

like me to do for you while I am time traveling?"

 

I really, with all of my heart, want you to come and visit me.

 

I want to see you in person atleast just ONE time.

 

If you must come in the past just make sure you come AFTER my

 

dream of you visiting me in April of 1998 Otherwise I may not

 

accept you because I won't know you but atleast I will be curious

 

because of the dream.

 

In this timeline I have not seen you physically yet so I hope to see you in

 

the near future here.

 

In my dream I did not see that time machine in the vehicle and I am wondering

 

now if it was just something you drug along with you and said it was your

 

time machine. ;)

 

Your family can get my current address and phone number from Larry Haber.

 

Please grant this request as it is really the only thing I have ever asked of you.

 

To meet a real time traveler in person just ONE time and to possibly see a

 

real time machine in my lifetime.

 

I have to say it also was a BIG disappointment to never get the departure video

 

I was SO looking forward to that to see if the time traveling matched my dream.

 

Yours Truly,

 

Take care,

 

Pamela

 



Pamela hi its nice to see you again, after leaving 2001 i landed here in 2021 and now i am stuck - but some day i would surely meet you either in past or in future take care
yours truely
John

 

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