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I added to it a little check it out back at my previous post. LOL :)

 

****************ATTENTION TIME TRAVEL CLAIMANTS:*****************

 

If you interest me I may ask you questions.

 

This does not mean I necessarily believe what you are saying but only

 

that I am interested and curious about what you have to say.

 

I like to gather all the information first and save judgement till the end.

 

I am here to have fun, interesting and thought provoking conversation.

 

If you have a sense of humor, are highly intelligent and creative I may end up liking you!

 

However, This does not mean I will have interdimensional babies with you. LOL :)

 

 

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So let's see if I understand this. We have a time traveling redneck farmboy semi-volunteer lab rat from the future who can get admitted to a CSU, which isn't a CSU anymore, but doesn't know his own age. Further, this person predicts things which are in the past and copies theories from movies as his own. He is serenaded in the nude by David Bowie after shaving his body hair and being drugged by his scientist buddies, while being treated to a light show. And he likes to shave cats. I'm not sure what to think. :oops:

 

 

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Do you compress all of your information using a lossless fractal algorithm on a quantum computer using all 32 quantum states of an electron and compressing a living object into an electron stream and then transport it through a quantum foam wormhole back in time and then reconstruct it again like Timeline?

If that's from the movie or book, then I see why you'd think I read it. No, I don't know if all 32 quantum states of the electron are used. All I know is that the time machine first scans the object, and this information is sent into the past, where the object reappears being translated by an initially sent field which is calculated to start the process and end with an exact duplicate of the original. The original is "vaporized" in the lab after the copy in the past is successfully reconstructed. You are purposefully unconsciouss for several hours after that, which takes no less than a moment.

 

 

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How do you get back to your time then?

 

****************ATTENTION TIME TRAVEL CLAIMANTS:*****************

 

If you interest me I may ask you questions.

 

This does not mean I necessarily believe what you are saying but only

 

that I am interested and curious about what you have to say.

 

I like to gather all the information first and save judgement till the end.

 

I am here to have fun, interesting and thought provoking conversation.

 

If you have a sense of humor, are highly intelligent and creative I may end up liking you!

 

However, This does not mean I will have interdimensional babies with you. LOL :)

 

 

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So let's see if I understand this. We have a time traveling redneck farmboy semi-volunteer lab rat from the future who can get admitted to a CSU, which isn't a CSU anymore, but doesn't know his own age. Further, this person predicts things which are in the past and copies theories from movies as his own. He is serenaded in the nude by David Bowie after shaving his body hair and being drugged by his scientist buddies, while being treated to a light show. And he likes to shave cats. I'm not sure what to think.

If I were here to convince you of something, that by itself would be proof that I'm not from any future, but a future asylum. The fact remains, I haven't started making predictions about every day next week, since no one 40 years in the future can know such specific and unimportant with respect to world history events. Do you even know what events happened 40 years ago in exactly the week of Feb.6-13, 1980? 1990? Do you know the lotto numbers for even yesterday off the top of your head at all?

 

I'm not originally from a farm. We are all sent to an isolated place. I'm 22. David Bowie was a joke, perhaps you didn't catch that.

 

 

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How do you get back to your time then?

They recreate the timehole which sent me, the field which scans me in the sphere is itself translated, scans me, and I'm retranslated back. They can do this at any time they want, but it's generally scheduled for a time and place by which I should have completed the mission, and if I haven't, I don't go back to the spot.

 

 

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What if someone else climbs in there instead while you are out on your mission? Can they go back instead of you?

 

****************ATTENTION TIME TRAVEL CLAIMANTS:*****************

 

If you interest me I may ask you questions.

 

This does not mean I necessarily believe what you are saying but only

 

that I am interested and curious about what you have to say.

 

I like to gather all the information first and save judgement till the end.

 

I am here to have fun, interesting and thought provoking conversation.

 

If you have a sense of humor, are highly intelligent and creative I may end up liking you!

 

However, This does not mean I will have interdimensional babies with you. LOL :)

 

 

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I must go for now talk with you later. Be kind to the cats around the farm. :)

 

****************ATTENTION TIME TRAVEL CLAIMANTS:*****************

 

If you interest me I may ask you questions.

 

This does not mean I necessarily believe what you are saying but only

 

that I am interested and curious about what you have to say.

 

I like to gather all the information first and save judgement till the end.

 

I am here to have fun, interesting and thought provoking conversation.

 

If you have a sense of humor, are highly intelligent and creative I may end up liking you!

 

However, This does not mean I will have interdimensional babies with you. LOL :)

 

 

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What if someone else climbs in there instead while you are out on your mission? Can they go back instead of you?

What would otherwise be a dangerous situation is ingeniously alleviated by the fact that the return scan makes a lot of assumptions based on the initial scan. Only about 2-3% of me is actually retranslated back, most of it being the brain (the rest is pieces of hair, etc). No part of me gets retranslated back outside of my head pretty much. Unfortunately, if someone did step in there, it would translate him. Fortunately, there have been no such incidents, seeing as it's an abandoned farm (and we can send them back anyway, though some might joke and say our secret can only be safe if we kill them). When I'm retranslated, all the dust, etc comes with me, but it can't interfere with my retranslation back to the future (my present) since it would not be retranslated based on the assumptions (intial scan) which is the model.

 

I must go for now talk with you later. Be kind to the cats around the farm.

Bye bye, and not a chance, those cats are in for a big surprise ;)

 

 

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To explain this to yourself, think of this fact: The future is permanently fixed.

You see whay I mean by "I don't care if you believe me" followed by an attempt to justify the original admitted unbelievable story?

 

But I digress...

 

If it's a fact, as you state, please give us the underlying science that, according to your world's new found understanding of the universe, we are unaware of. I understand that you said that you are not a scientist and not a college graduate but it was you, not one of us, that made the statement with the qualification that is is a fact.

 

 

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The almanac doesn't record "first breakthroughs". It records the total average. The average will be about 4 dollars in January 2010.

The total average of what and where? What averaging method was involved (there are literally dozens of averaging methods - each just as valid as another when used in the proper situation)? What almanac? Who wrote it? Is it a reliable source? Are there other sources that differ with The Almanac?

 

 

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You see whay I mean by "I don't care if you believe me" followed by an attempt to justify the original admitted unbelievable story?

I personally am convinced that nobody will believe me, which also gives me a bit of a kick, but explaining a theory has nothing to do with justifying anything; it's something that can be discussed whether or not I'm actually from the future.

 

If it's a fact, as you state, please give us the underlying science that, according to your world's new found understanding of the universe, we are unaware of. I understand that you said that you are not a scientist and not a college graduate but it was you, not one of us, that made the statement with the qualification that is is a fact.

I can give you a rough approximation. I really wish I knew the f(x)=x formulas, though. The universe as you know, has four dimensions. However, unlike a Euclidean 3 spatial dimension (+ time, which is more or less a spatial dimension in GR), you have Hilbert/Minkowski space. This fact explains how light travels. Although Einstein posits spacetime lines which result in a NUMERICAL CONSTANT 'C', and these are interpreted as geodesic lines along which light packets 'travel', this is a "meta-physical' component of the theory. Quantum electrodynamics are being SUPERIMPOSED UPON the Spacetime Manifold via a "Hilbert space'. Let me put it simpler: Electrical behaviour is being SUPERIMPOSED upon Einstein's "Minkowski-space". This is in absolute terms how light moves. It is not movement as much as it is the illusion of reference frames, similar to if you are traveling in a car, and see the moon out your window "chasing you". In this way, once realizing the underlying nature of the motion of light through the universe, you are able to, with the right tools and calculations of course, manipulate the Hilbert space, so as to curve it into the past. This is as MUCH as I could understand.

 

The total average of what and where? What averaging method was involved (there are literally dozens of averaging methods - each just as valid as another when used in the proper situation)? What almanac? Who wrote it? Is it a reliable source? Are there other sources that differ with The Almanac?

I can't tell you what averaging method was used because I don't create almanacs. I don't remember the name of the Almanac, but it was part of a series, it was volume 30 or so. I can't tell you if there are other sources that differ; this wasn't an investigation. I'm pretty sure it was reliable if it was in my former university's library. The almanac had all sorts of statistics, one of which was gas prices. I can't remember what else was in there though, I checked it out some couple of months ago. What I do remember is being fascinated by the gas price chart, and I went back and checked when gas was 5 cents a gallon (or 1 cent), in 1945-ish.

 

 

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A hilbert space is a space with more than the 3 spatial dimensions. More than that, it is curved in on itself, allowing to measure properties such as angle in it, which is how you are able to bend space-time to connect with a different point in space-time.

I think it would have helped you if you had looked up the definition first. Now the others are going to tear you apart. :oops:

 

I'm drinking now, and feeling quite good. :D

 

 

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OK..

 

we got a cat murderer on our hands- stay away from my cats! :)

 

Anyways,

 

Laser device that can refine itself into molecular analysis? Well I wouldn't say thats impossible. One light strand holds gigabytes of data?

 

It has been a lengthy read, mate - not sure what your point is, for typing all that up on here-

 

I know of a paradox-

 

Real time travelors (TiTOrs) wouldn't be posting on the forum on the net anywhere- anyways- people will not believe until you show definite proof - they all know that- Proof that is tangible and shown it works-

 

Almanac! LOL.. probably got that off of "Back to the Future" movie part 2 I think-

 

If I was a time travelor I would probably go back into time and live in that time- I don't want to live here in this time- forget it.. everything's too expensive... wars and rumours of wars, dreams that shatter into the night.

 

However, like I said.. Its a good read, mate.. I enjoyed that as I have read many articles here for my enjoyment- I am a SCI FI freak who likes to read these such stories :)

 

Thanks for writing it up, mate - I really like that -

 

 

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It's more near Fontana, CA, but it is still in LA County.

Fontana is in San Bernardino county, and not at all close to LA county. So.....strike two!

 

I mean honestly, there you sit at a computer and the least you could do is use google maps to make sure what you are saying is correct. How will you explain this one?

 

RMT

 

 

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Fontana is in San Bernardino county, and not at all close to LA county. So.....strike two!

 

I mean honestly, there you sit at a computer and the least you could do is use google maps to make sure what you are saying is correct. How will you explain this one?

Fontana is the general direction in which I go from LA. It's about 20-30 miles east of LA county, which is somewhere where I am. I didn't say I was in Fontana, but the landscape in North Fontana is approximately the area I see here. The fact is, in the immediate area outside of LA itself (and a little north), Hollywood, West Hollywood, Studio City, Glendale, Orange County, there are farms.

 

 

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OK..

 

we got a cat murderer on our hands- stay away from my cats!

 

Anyways,

 

Laser device that can refine itself into molecular analysis? Well I wouldn't say thats impossible. One light strand holds gigabytes of data?

 

It has been a lengthy read, mate - not sure what your point is, for typing all that up on here-

I'm just bored, and don't have much to do right now, other than getting the stuff I need for Pakistan.

 

I know of a paradox-

 

Real time travelors (TiTOrs) wouldn't be posting on the forum on the net anywhere- anyways- people will not believe until you show definite proof - they all know that- Proof that is tangible and shown it works-

I could try and post a picture or two, maybe a video. Wouldn't be for a while since I don't have any cameras around or photography.

 

Almanac! LOL.. probably got that off of "Back to the Future" movie part 2 I think-

I'll let you know of the title of the Almanac. I didn't get it from any movie.

 

If I was a time travelor I would probably go back into time and live in that time- I don't want to live here in this time- forget it.. everything's too expensive... wars and rumours of wars, dreams that shatter into the night.

I completely understand you. There are times which are much better in some respects, but trust me, sometimes when you look at the past, the "good old times", you've simply forgotten the bad, and are focusing on what was great.

 

Wars and rumors of wars. That's a phrase from the Bible. Do you know anything about the Bible? What dreams of yours shatter into the night?

 

However, like I said.. Its a good read, mate.. I enjoyed that as I have read many articles here for my enjoyment- I am a SCI FI freak who likes to read these such stories

 

Thanks for writing it up, mate - I really like that -

Hey no problem, whether I am real or not, whether it's true or not, at least you had some enjoyment :)

 

 

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How many people work on this time travel project? Is it independantly or governement funded? How long has it been in the works and when did the finished product that your using now come out? Have there been other missions, what where they? Can you just fire it up when ever you want or do you have to have months of tedious planning every time you want to use it? Oh, and where are you getting internet acess on an abondoned farm?

 

Do you know how to check your Private Messages? You have to click the My Home button at the top and they are in the top left corner.

 

Can I suggest an expirement for when you get back. Maybe you could go back in time and capture any random flock of dodo birds and see if you can bring them back to your time. Off the bat I can't find anything about this that immediatly conflicts on how you're version of time works. Unlike the cat thing were it was you were changing the known past, in this expirement you are chaning an unkown past and as far as you know it was "meant" for you to take those dodos and therefor not changing the past. Just a thought.

 

That's a phrase from the Bible. Do you know anything about the Bible?

Is it uncommon for people to know about the bible in your time?

 

It's useless to indulge in anger; by my time all responses will be so inhibited that you'd never even know who to get angry with.

What do you mean by this?

 

 

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Fontana is the general direction in which I go from LA. It's about 20-30 miles east of LA county, which is somewhere where I am. I didn't say I was in Fontana, but the landscape in North Fontana is approximately the area I see here. The fact is, in the immediate area outside of LA itself (and a little north), Hollywood, West Hollywood, Studio City, Glendale, Orange County, there are farms.

You cannot even keep track of your own discussions? Here, let me help you:

 

You said: I live in a somewhat abandoned farm at the moment, fairly far away from a video store.

 

Then aerohead said: A farm in LA?

 

Then you said: It's more near Fontana, CA, but it is still in LA County.

 

And to be exceedingly clear "it" in your last reply means "the farm". So you are claiming the farm is more near Fontana, CA but still in LA County.

 

And so, no, you are still wrong. Fontana is not in LA County, so you are lying about at least that part about the farm you are living at. Now above you seem to have changed your story to say something about Fontana being the general direction you "go from LA". That was not the question that was asked, nor that you answered. So you are only trying to muddy the water here instead of admitting you failed to check any facts before you gave your original answer.

 

Moreover, you were using this answer as some excuse for not being able to go to a video store and rent a movie. And I will say that is BS too, because if you are in any of those cities that are actually in LA County you are not far at all from a video store. In fact, even if you were in Fontana you are not far from a video store! How do I know these things??? Well, I have lived in Rancho Cucamonga (look on your map how close that is to Fontana), Claremont (right on the LA County Line) and various other cities in that part of LA and San Bernardino County. I also teach at Cal Poly in Pomona, which is also very close to the LA County Line in that area. This area is very densly populated, and I can assure you that no matter where you stand in those areas, you are always within no more than 2 miles of a video store.

 

Why not just admit you got caught in a lie?

 

RMT

 

 

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And to be exceedingly clear "it" in your last reply means "the farm". So you are claiming the farm is more near Fontana, CA but still in LA County.

 

And so, no, you are still wrong. Fontana is not in LA County, so you are lying about at least that part about the farm you are living at. Now above you seem to have changed your story to say something about Fontana being the general direction you "go from LA". That was not the question that was asked, nor that you answered. So you are only trying to muddy the water here instead of admitting you failed to check any facts before you gave your original answer.

By "it is more near Fontana" I meant with respect to the LA which everyone thinks of: Hollywood, etc. It is in LA County in the direction of Fontana with respect to the LA everyone thinks of. No one is trying to muddy any waters.

 

Moreover, you were using this answer as some excuse for not being able to go to a video store and rent a movie. And I will say that is BS too, because if you are in any of those cities that are actually in LA County you are not far at all from a video store. In fact, even if you were in Fontana you are not far from a video store! How do I know these things??? Well, I have lived in Rancho Cucamonga (look on your map how close that is to Fontana), Claremont (right on the LA County Line) and various other cities in that part of LA and San Bernardino County. I also teach at Cal Poly in Pomona, which is also very close to the LA County Line in that area. This area is very densly populated, and I can assure you that no matter where you stand in those areas, you are always within no more than 2 miles of a video store.

 

Why not just admit you got caught in a lie?

I've never claimed Fontana is in LA County. I said I live toward the north, which means north of the densely populated region. I have no car, I have no VCR, so I'd have to walk to a video store which is a nice 2-3 hour walk in the heat. If you live there, I don't understand why you can't understand what is meant by "i live more toward Fontana" not in fontana. I'm simply referring to a place that I know of which is closer to the metropolitan LA. There may be ones closer, but I've never been there, and I don't know them. Does: "It's more near Fontana, CA, but it is still in LA County." by any reasonable imagination mean I am claiming i live in Fontana?

 

 

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How many people work on this time travel project?

There is a not too big room in which I meet with three others for tests, etc., whenever the time comes. In it is a smaller, cabinet room where they do paperwork etc., (where we planned to put the cat). On the top there are the big computers, with 3 monitors, one for cameras, one that checks for errors, and another which has the jump program and so on.

 

Is it independantly or governement funded?

If it were independent, I probably wouldn't have made it through alive..lots of sloppiness when a few individuals do something so complex, so of course government company.

 

How long has it been in the works and when did the finished product that your using now come out?

The time machine? Publicly, it has been known for about 3 years. No knowing how many have time travelled. Most probably go into the future, nothing much to do in the past really, unless something like this happens.

 

Have there been other missions, what where they?

Me personally, no. I haven't met anyone else who has. At the center, no one who has actually gone would want to be constantly harassed by questions and skepticism I imagine, so they probably have kept it secret.

 

Can you just fire it up when ever you want or do you have to have months of tedious planning every time you want to use it?

We can't. You have to have permission. I assume there's a lot of planning as to when and where to be sent, but none that I personally know of. The training was undertaken once you registered at the center, none you really need after that. All they do is do a quick physical, short tests to see body endurance, and then you go and get "cleaned up" for your jump. How they take you from there to the "coffin" I don't know, you just wake up where you're supposed to.

 

Oh, and where are you getting internet acess on an abondoned farm?

I change the LAN settings on my computer to something I have which has internet.

 

Can I suggest an expirement for when you get back. Maybe you could go back in time and capture any random flock of dodo birds and see if you can bring them back to your time. Off the bat I can't find anything about this that immediatly conflicts on how you're version of time works. Unlike the cat thing were it was you were changing the known past, in this expirement you are chaning an unkown past and as far as you know it was "meant" for you to take those dodos and therefor not changing the past. Just a thought.

The last time I went to a zoo was over 10 years ago, so they may have reintroduced them. It would be a little hard to go prior to about 50/60 years. The thing is you have to know where you'll reappear. It would take a lot of effort to go back for some dodos.

 

Is it uncommon for people to know about the bible in your time?

I don't think it's much more different than now.

 

It's useless to indulge in anger; by my time all responses will be so inhibited that you'd never even know who to get angry with.

 

What do you mean by this?

You are punished for very petty things. Like a lab rat.

 

 

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The last time I went to a zoo was over 10 years ago, so they may have reintroduced them. It would be a little hard to go prior to about 50/60 years. The thing is you have to know where you'll reappear. It would take a lot of effort to go back for some dodos.

Have there been cloning advances, Like unextincting (retincting?) cloning advances. And besides the fact that it is a long time ago do you think the expirement would work within the confines of the new theory of how time works.

 

You are punished for very petty things. Like a lab rat.

Like jailtime for littering punished or what for example.

 

 

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