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No more time travelers since timeline_39.

 

No one came even closer to the legendary time traveler.

 

Last postings to the most of the topics are days old.

 

What is going on?

You seem to enjoy timeline_39's BS and/or believe that he (AKA "Charlie Haynes") was/is a time traveler.

 

So it is quite possible that "what is going on" is one of the following:

 

a) You are a shill for timeline_39

 

b) You are a sock puppet for timeline_39 (i.e. he is you)

 

When I re-opened timeline_39's thread in the Conspiracy Forum I also asked a question therein. I'd be happy to review all the places that timeline_39 was wrong in his predictions... if you'd like. Now, if either (a) or (b) above is true, then you might not like me to do that, and you might even ignore the fact that I am offering to review his screwed-up predictions.

 

So which is it? ;)

 

RMT

 

 

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The thought that occured to me was that in view of the possibility of multiple "realities", even IF John Titor was a hoax in this reality, perhaps the mere idea of John Titor here, may indeed be a reality elsewhere in the scheme of "everything".

 

IF in some other reality ( parallel universe ) John Titor did exist as a traveler through different realities, could that John Titor, or other versions of "him", influence this reality, perhaps in-directly, or even directly through means we might not recognize ?

 

Not quite completely understanding the depth of creation, it has been suggested that many people here on this Earth receive "inspiration" from other realms, as it were. Someone that comes up with any sort of idea, has been influenced perhaps by energy emitted from alternative realms.

 

It is interesting to note how it seems that people that are seperated by quite a distance seem to develop similar ideas almost at the same time. As though these people are receivers of sorts, picking up on the energies of the idea's ( or concepts ) borne from who knows where, and expressing them simultaneously.

 

 

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I find this very curious.

 

What I know of JT it makes no sense that he would in reality take his younger self on a quick spin with the C204 and risk creating a Worldline without a child and leave his mother in hysterics. I am sure she would not have allowed it anyway. And he viewed the C204 as potentially dangerous device anyway.

 

Since we have assumed that ZD is statistically improbable, it would be spinning off new worldlines where he is now classified as a child kidnapper.

 

Its possible that this fax is in response to him getting sick of wackos "from 2500" filling the Art Bell air waves with crap and a little bravado thrown in. If this is fax was "discovered" after he supposedly left in March/April 2001 - can someone point me to the 2nd Arty Bell fax as I have not reviewed it yet.

 

TIA.

 

Tesseract.

 

 

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FAX ONE:Dear Art ,I had to fax when I heard other time travelers calling in from any time pastthe year 2500 AD.Please let me explain....Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the worlds first contained singularity engine.The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field.By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.Time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time you travel on your original time line when you turn the singularity engine off a new time line is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.In other words a new universe is created. To get back to your original line you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.Some interesting outcomes of this are: You meet yourself I have done it often even taken a younger version of myself along for a few rides before returning myself to the new timeline and going back to mine.You can alter history in the new universe that you have just created. Most of the time the changes are subtle. The oldest one was a sky scraper that doesn't exist in New York .Interestingly when you travel in time you must compensate for the orbit of the Earth since the time machine doesn't move you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.Now for the future you might want to know about. Y2K is a disaster. Many people die on the highways when they freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The government tries to keep power by instituting marshal law but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail. A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists.China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors. FAX TWO: Dear Mr. Bell I am glad you 're back. I faxed this information to you the day before you left the air. I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in the shuffle so I am sending a gift. If you've already seen this please accept my apologies if you choose to make this public please do not publish the fax number. I had to fax when I heard the other time traveler calling in from the recent time past in fact the year 2500 AD.Let me explain...Mr. Bell I sent a fax with this opening on July 29 1998. As I said then I am a time traveler. I have been on this world line since April of this year and I plan to leave soon. Typically time travelers do not purposely affect the world lines they visit. However this mission is unusually long and I've grown attached to some of the people I have met here. Anyway for my own reasons I have decided to help this world line by sharing information about the future with a few people in the hope that it will help their future. I am contacting you for the same reason. Unfortunately there is no historical reference to your program in my world line.I believe you can change your future by creating one now. Some of the information presented on your program maybe invaluable to upline researchers. I suggest you isolate the programs that concentrate on military technology and new physics theories. Transcribe these programs and put them someplace safe away from the box. I recommend someplace in the mid west. I also urge you to reconsider your paranoia toward the Russians They are not preparing for war with the average US citizen. They are preparing for war with the US government. They will eventually save this country and the lives of million of Americans. I realize my claims are a bit difficult to accept so I will send the following once I know you have received this fax. A few pages from the operations manual of my time machine. And a few colored photographs of my vehicle.

 

 

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Oop sorry I forgot to put spaces in there to make it easier to read and I can't correct it from here. Here it is again:

 

FAX ONE:Dear Art ,I had to fax when I heard other time travelers calling in from any time pastthe year 2500 AD.Please let me explain....Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the worlds first contained singularity engine.

 

The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field.By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.

 

Time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time you travel on your original time line when you turn the singularity engine off a new time line is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.In other words a new universe is created.

 

To get back to your original line you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.

 

Some interesting outcomes of this are: You meet yourself I have done it often even taken a younger version of myself along for a few rides before returning myself to the new timeline and going back to mine.

 

You can alter history in the new universe that you have just created. Most of the time the changes are subtle. The oldest one was a sky scraper that doesn't exist in New York

 

.Interestingly when you travel in time you must compensate for the orbit of the Earth since the time machine doesn't move you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.

 

Now for the future you might want to know about. Y2K is a disaster. Many people die on the highways when they freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The government tries to keep power by instituting marshal law but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail.

 

A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists.China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors.

 

FAX TWO: Dear Mr. Bell I am glad you 're back. I faxed this information to you the day before you left the air. I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in the shuffle so I am sending a gift.

 

If you've already seen this please accept my apologies if you choose to make this public please do not publish the fax number.

 

I had to fax when I heard the other time traveler calling in from the recent time past in fact the year 2500 AD.Let me explain...Mr. Bell I sent a fax with this opening on July 29 1998.

 

As I said then I am a time traveler. I have been on this world line since April of this year and I plan to leave soon.

 

Typically time travelers do not purposely affect the world lines they visit. However this mission is unusually long and I've grown attached to some of the people I have met here.

 

Anyway for my own reasons I have decided to help this world line by sharing information about the future with a few people in the hope that it will help their future. I am contacting you for the same reason.

 

Unfortunately there is no historical reference to your program in my world line.I believe you can change your future by creating one now.

 

Some of the information presented on your program maybe invaluable to upline researchers. I suggest you isolate the programs that concentrate on military technology and new physics theories. Transcribe these programs and put them someplace safe away from the box.

 

I recommend someplace in the mid west. I also urge you to reconsider your paranoia toward the Russians They are not preparing for war with the average US citizen. They are preparing for war with the US government.

 

They will eventually save this country and the lives of million of Americans.

 

I realize my claims are a bit difficult to accept so I will send the following once I know you have received this fax. A few pages from the operations manual of my time machine. And a few colored photographs of my vehicle.

 

 

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Trojan,

 

You should really be more polite on this forum. You don't want to piss off any time travelers do you?

To the best of my knowledge I have never once been rude to a single person on this forum. I have simply stated my opinion on certain subjects. I am sorry if any statement I may have made came over as being offensive to you. I just can not understand how somebody could devote 10+ years of their life to some such fantasy in the face of facts showing this is clearly made up nonsense. It's like the mother who still stands on the street corner waiting on her beloved son to return from the Vietnam War....sadly for her it's never gonna happen, and in the mean time she has wasted so many fruitful years of her life. The other alternative would be if you were in fact part of a group who knows this is made up B.S. then it would be a job, and in todays economy I guess a jobs a job...lol

 

As far as real time travelers (if they could even exist), I really couldn't care less, because according to your john fella, our world lines are different, so they would be messing with a completly different me....guess it would suck to be him though :cry:

 

 

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" As far as real time travelers (if they could even exist), I really couldn't care less, because according to your john fella, our world lines are different, so they would be messing with a completly different me....guess it would suck to be him though..."

 

Quite correct, in effect you could be damning a million other you's to a fate unknown to you... but I would suggest you read a little more Heinlein and pray. Btw, have you seen my cat anywhere, its name is Pixel.

 

<grin!>

 

\T.

 

 

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It sucks knowing the truth, doesn't it? -

 

All we can do, is hold our visions and beliefs to ourselves and do not share with anyone. It's not worth our time to share too much, as you may share a little-

 

That's the way the world is today. Thoughts as mine and yours do not matter. Life only matters.

 

Why?-

 

People in their own individuality experience these things before they move on. Dimensional aspects of our perceptions based on each individual's reality, is what is created by the thought of an individual.

 

Otherwords, enjoy the fun while you're here. Don't suffer- Find something to do and ENJOY it.. Have FUN while you're here-

 

--This is Paradox, I am here to say a few things.. and I think I have done enough--

 

Best of luck in everything that you do-

 

 

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It is strange that I should think of artists (musicians) like Jimi Hendrix long dead (Sept. 19or20, 1970) only to find out that a new album is being released on March 9th 2010 and:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Valleys-Neptune-Jimi-Hendrix/dp/B00328G4V6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1267148697&sr=1-1

 

It is Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6 in Music.

 

Also that threads like this is appearing because of previous talk by governors:

 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message998218/pg1

 

about the U.S. Constitution (I guess because people are concerned about the economy more then health care talk which the Congress is doing right now instead of the economy - I know about that.)

 

And on a light note, this group not included in the movie "Contact" (which is really spacealien, I guess.)

 

Ya, I remember the song, but not exactly, and the group, and although Diana Ross and the Supremes also did a version of it, this one sticks in my head)

 

(although video quality is what it is. And also that album can be bought and was out a few years ago, and in their sixties (age) sounded better than back in 1968 according to some on the same album except - Recent on the CD cover.)

 

Vanilla Fudge - "Keep Me Hanging On"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aWFaZgwerY

 

Now this belonged in the movie "Contact"

 

mmmmmmmmmmmm.............................

 

But in the end a lot of work to do instead of all of this in the end.

 

What was this thread about? Oh, the other John

 

(or in the present with many people wondering what this Government is doing - Don't Tread On Me - kind of thinking.)

 

:confused:

 

Not really, that is for the others. (confused graemlin)

 

Almost back to high-school where I think people have a course on the U.S. Constitution and History perhaps.

 

mmmmmmmmm.................

 

About Jimi Hendrix, am I picking up vibrations of other people thinking about that and suddenly I revert back to that?

 

Have to think about that a little.

 

:yum:

 

Duh, edited to add link to Vanilla Fudge.

 

 

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Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of "emergency". It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries of Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And "emergency" became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains. — Herbert Hoover.

 

 

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Can the other John or you or me:

 

Can you roll your eyeballs around in their eyesockets clockwise?

 

Can you roll your eyeballs around in their eyesockets counter-clockwise?

 

Can you move your eyeballs in their eyesockets as saying "No" (left to right or right to left and more than once)?

 

Can you move your eyeballs in their eyesockets up and down like saying "Yes" (more than once - a number of times)?

 

Now:

 

Can you roll your eyeballs around in their eyesockets one clockwise and one counter-clockwise at the same time?

 

Again like above but starting in the opposite direction?

 

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You should know that I don't believe anything anyone tells me whether I know what it is that the person is talking about or even if I know that I include myself with what I am talking about and still may not know, even if the other person tells me that as the person that knows what he/she/spacealien is saying, if I knew what it was that the person was saying whether I thought the person was saying something or I was saying something even if both of us knew in the first place what either of us were talking about at the time the communication took place.

 

:)

 

Ah!

 

 

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To the best of my knowledge I have never once been rude to a single person on this forum. I have simply stated my opinion on certain subjects. I am sorry if any statement I may have made came over as being offensive to you. I just can not understand how somebody could devote 10+ years of their life to some such fantasy in the face of facts showing this is clearly made up nonsense. It's like the mother who still stands on the street corner waiting on her beloved son to return from the Vietnam War....sadly for her it's never gonna happen, and in the mean time she has wasted so many fruitful years of her life. The other alternative would be if you were in fact part of a group who knows this is made up B.S. then it would be a job, and in todays economy I guess a jobs a job...lol

 

Yes it's strange how simply expressing a healthy and justifiable scepticism gets converted into being 'rude'.

 

And yes....Pamela's stance on the Titor story seems to exist DESPITE the evidence ( showing it is all BS ) and not because of it.

 

My guess is ...whether Pamela is part of Group Titor or not, it's far more down to a certain 'clique' mentality that I've noticed time and again on forums. The 'old guard' enjoy their 'we were here when Titor was posting' status....as if it somehow confers some special status on them.

 

Forums are very clique ridden places. They have far more to do with social pigeon holing than with any perceived 'subject matter'. The old guard tend to build up a certain image of what the forum 'ought' to be like.......and any noob ends up feeling like someone riding into town in some Westen, as all the shutters are closed and faces peer through the curtains at the 'stranger in town'.

 

One has to be Shane to survive in such a place.

 

 

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