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And as for KerTex's roaming packs of wild animals... really? mankind may get flopped and kicked around, but not beyond the dark ages... I'm pretty sure mankind can out smart wild animals. Not every man, but mankind as a whole.

Really. And yes, I agree with you that "mankind" can out-smart wild animals ( to some degree ). However, as you yourself pointed out, NOT every man. Jacob Time placing "food" into a snow pak, isn't one of those out-smarting animals.

 

Now...if he had said that they had a specially prepared cave of some sort located within a snow-pak, where they could safely store food from scavengers...that would make more sense.

 

From a survivalist's point-of-view, multiple scenarios have to figured into the equation. A full-out nuclear exchange, or even a limited nuclear exchange, a small cabin in the wilds of Colorado wouldn't necessarily be a safe location for survival, animals or no. Might be, I don't really know, but, knowing the jet-stream patterns, wouldn't expect that Colorado would be a un-effected by a nuclear exchange.

 

I don't know if you have run across the story of the balloon bombs the Japanese used in WW2...

 

Japanese Balloon Bombs

 

So, assuming that the United States isn't affected by mass radiation at the start, IF China is, eventually, North America, would be, too.

 

IF we're looking at the collapse of world-wide civilization, due to some sort of NON-nuclear event, one has to consider that those things that are managed, would no longer be so. As it is now, in this area, which is "in the Hills"...there are organized methods to keep the predator populations within managable parameters.

 

However, even within a managed environment, around these parts, nobody walks "alone", without a weapon. At night, any "outside" pets, will be "food" before the sun rises.

 

At this time, ammunition isn't a problem. In an Armageddon type scenario, ammunition supplies would be a BIG problem.

 

In addition, animals aren't as stupid as some might believe them to be. Why do you think most animals are frightened of humans ? How long do you think it would take for the animals to realize that something is different ? Without weapons, any individual becomes part of the food chain, and wandering around in the wilds of Colorado as though walking through the city park in the afternoon sunshine, well...that just wouldn't be so during "the end of life as we know it" type environment.

 

Now if I was telling the story, I would have said something along the lines of ; " I remember the ol'Winchester rifle my father use to carry when we traveled around outside our cabin. I remember him telling me, " Got to be be prepared for anything, boy ! I am grateful that my father taught me how to make it on what little supplies we had..."

 

But then that would make sense, something most time travel claimants seem incapable of doing, simply because when fabricating their story, it becomes obvious ( usually fairly quickly )that these authors are not experienced with the subjects they are professing to be living through.

 

However interesting as Jacob Time's story might be, it is just that --- a "fictional" story. But, as I wrote in the post above, although I believe "this" story to be a fake, doesn't mean I don't believe that time travel isn't a possibility, just have yet to read a plausible claim.

 

 

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Well we all agree on holes in the story. Wait, did I just say that? We all agree on something? Well there goes that dynamic. . ..

 

As for faint glow on the horizon... From Boulder that would mean looking east and I'd guess that in a non-nuclear event, but one where electricity was ka-put, such as solar EMF, I would imagine that it would likely take about 2 years for what was left of civilization after event to stabilize. Meaning that for 2 yrs we'd have people/bandits/gangs/militias, rebells, etc roaming and foraging and trying to survive. The dumb ones (and that may be the majority of us) would do things like burn houses for heat or fun or entertainment. It would likely take the idiots of the world about 2 yrs to either be killed off or burn all the buildings.

 

Wild animals... still don't think they'd be a problem. If you placed me in the rockies in 1812 with a knife and shelter, I could make do. Yes, I may run into a wolf pack or bear or gang of thugs that could eat me, but that is not a certainty by any means. Shelter location, hiking paths, times of day, common sense, etc all would help the savvy one survive amongst the animals...

 

 

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Charlie -

 

"Here's what I know.

 

Before the elections in 2012 there is a crisis in the middle east. All the big countries send armies there, its a massive build up larger than ever before. As the confrontations continue to the lead up of the elections here, there is a tremendous pressure placed that causes America to call for bombings of facilities in one of the countries. This is followed by a counter strike and a massive ground campaign. But now its more than just America its China and Russia and Germany and France and Britain. Nothing happens until another crisis in the same area days before the election."

 

SO, here is what I read today..

 

...Britain and France argued for immediate action while Germany and Russia opposed such a move, according to two European diplomats who were briefed on the meeting....On the same day, Clinton had a short meeting with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in which Sarkozy pressed Clinton to come out more forcefully in favor of action in Libya....Sarkozy told Clinton that "we need action now" and she responded to him, "there are difficulties," the source said, explaining that Clinton was referring to China and Russia's opposition to intervention at the United Nations. Sarkozy replied that the United States should at least try to overcome the difficulties by leading a strong push at the U.N., but Clinton simply repeated, "There are difficulties."

 

 

Source : http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/16/european_governments_completely_puzzled_about_us_position_on_libya

 

Now, from the perspective of 20 yrs in the future... "before the elections of 2012" could very easily mean 2011.

 

When this Charlie stuff was originally written, I would not have pondered the thought of "But now its more than just America its China and Russia and Germany and France and Britain" in the middle east. And yes, as Darby will point out, Libya is NOT the middle east, its africa. But again, from the perspective of 20 yrs in the the future, 15 of them in the woods drinking coors for "sterile hydration", I would think you may be allowed to group northern africa and middle east in one category.

 

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I disagree. I think it was a controlled gamble, like every other "prediction" made by potential time travellers. The whole "America calls for the bombing of facilities" fits the vocabulary of the whole "Iran's nuclear program" newsline over the past few years.

 

It's no different than if I claim to be from the future and say "The 2012 election will see a new President and a larger influence by the Tea Party." I may be wrong, but currently things are trending toward me being right. When those predictions were written, he was trending toward being right.

 

 

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Keeping it fresh as events seem to be following along the lines of what he predicted. Read through the entire thread on Godlike Productions(will post that link when I get a chance). He also stated that weeks prior to the election the Tea Party will be marching in the streets of DC protesting the war buildup, also the current pope will die sometime before or after the elections, and that China will attack Thailand in late 2011/early 2012 before the Chinese New Year.

 

Interestingly, there is also another thread from another time traveller at GLP who was actually sent to apprehend Jacob Time for violating the rules of his mission. His disclosure of upcoming events according to the time cop will only make matters worse. In any event, that's where things stand.

 

 

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eric,

 

I believe the vast majority of the BS Charlie Haynes spewed has already been....uhhh.... to put it nicely..."overcome by events". If you go look at his other thread, wherein you also recently responded to me, you will see that by now in 2012 we should all be clearly seeing "Niburu" (or whatever he called it) and we should already be experiencing all the terrible consequences....but we are not. However, in any event:

 

Read through the entire thread on Godlike Productions

Come on...GLP? Really? Perhaps whoever posted this on GLP were too afraid to come post it here because some of us around here would point out the problems? :) Go ahead and post the link, but I don't think most people who are scientifically-oriented thinkers lend much credence to anything posted on GLP...especially if it is not cited.

 

He also stated that weeks prior to the election the Tea Party will be marching in the streets of DC protesting the war buildup, also the current pope will die sometime before or after the elections

Citations would be good here, as this sounds awfully vague. And given the way things are in the world right now (and have been for over a decade) I don't think anyone would be surprised if a new war takes shape. I mean just look at Syria, and we have been dealing with Iran's insistance on developing a nuclear device for many years now. And the Pope? Another one of these? Who does this person think they are, Zeshua? :)

 

and that China will attack Thailand in late 2011/early 2012 before the Chinese New Year.

Are you sure it was Thailand and not, possibly, Taiwan? We all should already be aware of what mainland China's intentions are towards Taiwan, because they consistently state as much. But if someone predicted Thailand I think they are not paying attention to what we already know.

 

RMT

 

 

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also the current pope will die sometime before or after the elections

Eric,

 

Ummm...ummmm...ummm

 

I'm could be wrong but I believe that every living creature on the planet will die "sometime before or after the elections".

 

and that China will attack Thailand in late 2011/early 2012 before the Chinese New Year

I don't know why you posted this one because it is obviously wrong. Chinese New Year was January 23rd and Thailand seems to be intact and free from a Chinese invasion.

 

 

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Actually, rainman, if you go to http://www.zetatalk.com , you will see threads there indicating that Nibiru has already been spotted in the sky . The zetas go into specifics on this. Will try to get a post up on this. Also check out http://poleshift.ning.com for the latest pole shift events worldwide.

 

You raise a good point on the Thailand/Taiwan issue. Wonder if the time traveller got his countries confused? Could very well be. In any event, if we see China making bellicose moves towards either country then I think we should worry a bit. It does seem that Taiwan would be the more likely target though of their animosity as you point out.

 

 

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Actually, rainman, if you go to ZetaTalk , you will see threads there indicating that Nibiru has already been spotted in the sky . The zetas go into specifics on this.

Uhhhhh, OK. But hang on a second. Charlie did NOT predict that only some crackpot lady, who has been wrong in all her predictions of the future up until now, would be the ONLY one to spot Niburu in the sky. No, no, no. Charlie was very specific about this. He claimed that EVERYONE would be able to see it for themselves...that, and of course, he also predicted all these dire consequences here on earth. I could go find those exact quotes if you like...but then again, so could you.

 

All kidding aside, you do know how much of a crackpot Nancy from Zetatalk is, right? The only reason I know about her predictions and their failures is that she is a regular guest of the SoCal comedy deejays Kevin and Bean on KROQ. Science is about independent verification. So if a few more, uhhh, trustworthy and transparent folks other than Nancy can report seeing it in the sky, then maybe we can move forward.

 

RMT

 

 

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Eric,

 

Heh. I thought it might be that. :)

 

Anyway, the part about someone dropping dead "before or after the elections" stands. Whoever posted that was either pulling folks legs or attempting to cover the spread thinking that no one would notice the silliness of the statement.

 

The real problem with GLP is that you never know who really makes a post. There's no requirement to register, you can paste anyone's handle on a post that you like to make it look like the OP (or some other poster) is responding. I don't hang out there but as I recall from lurking in the past that's been a major complaint for a long time there.

 

Re. Nancy, Niburu and the Zetas:

 

Eric,

 

Planets can't hide and only be seen by one person. Sure, one person will be the first to discover it but thereafter anyone with the proper equipment can observe it. A new planet inside the Solar system is less than 1 LY away. A planet cannot go unobserved in the Solar system. Our instruments today are sensitive to detect planets 600 LY away. Kepler-22b, for example. Asteroids near the Kuiper Belt. Yes. They are so small and far away that they they can get lost in the clutter. But a body large enough to be classified a planet, inside the Kuiper Belt and on a collision course with Earth sometime during the next few months? Not possible. The Kuiper Belt is the edge of the Solar system and it is about 1 LY away. If a body was traveling toward us at near the speed of light (which it would have to be if it is a wandering planet from the outer edge of the Solar system but going to be here in short order) it would be glowing blue - bright, bright blue and also tossing off hard gamma radiation - lots of it, enough to fry the Earth. It would light up the night on Earth brighter than daylight (and the "suntan" would kill).

 

 

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Agree with you, rainman, that Nancy and the zetas lost A LOT of credibility when her/their original predictions failed to pan out. However, there is detailed current pole shift info with pictures posted on the current site that clearly indicates that there ARE pole shift events occurring. The zetas have indicated though that they are surprised that events to date haven't been more severe than what they are, indicating to me that some outside force/agency is working to mitigate effects.

 

At ZetaTalk click on New zetatalk in the pink section(top left) to get the latest pole shift related updates from them.

 

 

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Agree with you to a great extent about GLP, Darby . . . there's a lot of crap there, but a few gems among the dross. It also can be entertaining if you approach it the right way.

 

As per observing Planet X , I have seen some material which suggests it is cloaked. There is also conjecture that there are actually 2 objects around----a brown dwarf and then a planetoid(inhabited by dark ETs) which shadows it and plunders planets after the devastation caused by the brown dwarf.

 

In any event, will try to get some Nibiru sighting stuff up shortly.

 

 

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