kimberlyd Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 This video shows clips of old films showing someone walking around with what looks like a cell phone. They show each clip several times so you can view them closely yourselves. I don't think they are cellphones like people think. One of the films they show shows a older women walking behind a stuffed zebra and they showed this in another video I posted that debunked it. They stated that the lady was using a hearing device and even showed that it would look like someone holding a cellphone. Here is my questions on this, one... there was no one with the lady and it did appear for a moment like she was speak to someone. Why would she have been holding a hearing device to her ear and why would she speak when there was no one with her. The other images suggest the same, they appear to speak into something that they are holding to their faces. However, unless there is a way to talk to someone on a cellphone with no cell towers... a cellphone would be useless to a time traveler. Now lets theorize that they are time travelers and they are talking on cellphones... who are they talking to? Other time travelers that are in the same time line as them at that moment or are they talking to someone in the future of the time line they are in? Anyway, you guys watch the video and decide for yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulaJedi Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 People believe they were hearing aid devices. They had all kinds of them back then. The lady next to her was leaning towards her and talking, too. Might have been a small one. [ATTACH=full]185[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]186[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]187[/ATTACH] LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseman05 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I want to believe. I really do. but the biggest problem I can see if these weren't hearing devices is how the cellphones would even work. The only reason they work now is because they utilize satellite and wi-fi technology to send and receive signals across space. There wasn't any of that technology prior to to the 60's, so there would be no way that they'd be able to connect to any other device, even if two people with similar phones were in the same time era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasTitor Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I want to believe. I really do. but the biggest problem I can see if these weren't hearing devices is how the cellphones would even work. The only reason they work now is because they utilize satellite and wi-fi technology to send and receive signals across space. There wasn't any of that technology prior to to the 60's, so there would be no way that they'd be able to connect to any other device, even if two people with similar phones were in the same time era. Your current cellphone already has all the hardware it needs to transmit and recieve broadcasts across a spectrum of radio frequencies. The FCC currently prohibits unlicensed transmission so the software in your phone limits those capabilities. Have you never used a pair of walkie talkie radios with a 30+ mile range? Those devices do not require relay towers, nor would a direct call of equal or less distance. Removing the relay tower would however remove the AFEs ability to track and monitor such a broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorri Spoto Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Regarding the fact that it looks as if they are using cell phones and there would be no cell towers or others with cell phones ... If they were indeed time travelers, maybe it is a higher technology than a cell phone. If they can travel through time, I would assume "they" could have or would have been able to invent something that didn't require towers or use cell technology. Maybe the device works on energy/electric currents in the air .. maybe they actually did something good with Tesla's work ... who knows, but I doubt they are relying on our current technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasTitor Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Regarding the fact that it looks as if they are using cell phones and there would be no cell towers or others with cell phones ... If they were indeed time travelers, maybe it is a higher technology than a cell phone. If they can travel through time, I would assume "they" could have or would have been able to invent something that didn't require towers or use cell technology. Maybe the device works on energy/electric currents in the air .. maybe they actually did something good with Tesla's work ... who knows, but I doubt they are relying on our current technology. Sorry for the confusion, I know it's electrical engineering and a bit much to digest. The cellphone you own right now has the hardware to physically call another phone directly over 30 miles away without a cell tower to relay or transmit over fiber optic cable network. It can do it If a software engineer or hacker programs such capability into The software. A satellite phone functions the same way, but then uses a satellite in space as the relay to bounce the radio wave to the desired reciever. The curvature of the earth is the real limitation for radio waves on tge earths surface. 30 miles is a good rule of thumb, but not a definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpa Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Have you never used a pair of walkie talkie radios with a 30+ mile range? The cellphone you own right now has the hardware to physically call another phone directly over 30 miles away without a cell tower to relay or transmit over fiber optic cable network. I would really like to see your source for this claim... before I call BS. The curvature of the earth is the real limitation for radio waves on tge earths surface. 30 miles is a good rule of thumb, but not a definition Not even close... Unless the height between you and your receiver is about 600 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasTitor Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I would really like to see your source for this claim... before I call BS. Not even close... Unless the height between you and your receiver is about 600 feet. Here: http://www.westmarine.com/handheld-vhf-radios Take your pick. John keeps one on his sailboat. One of the other sailors had to abandon ship once and it saved his life. These have been around for 30 years, but I think the spread spectrum frequency technology was invented by Hedy Lamar during WW2 if I recall colonel Lewaynes history lesson correctly. Are you at least slightly familiar with the concept of radio wave communications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulaJedi Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Sorry for the confusion, I know it's electrical engineering and a bit much to digest. The cellphone you own right now has the hardware to physically call another phone directly over 30 miles away without a cell tower to relay or transmit over fiber optic cable network. It can do it If a software engineer or hacker programs such capability into The software. A satellite phone functions the same way, but then uses a satellite in space as the relay to bounce the radio wave to the desired reciever. The curvature of the earth is the real limitation for radio waves on tge earths surface. 30 miles is a good rule of thumb, but not a definition. Ok, it can call another phone 30 miles away, BUT how can it locate a phone number back in a time when that sort of thing didn't exist? I don't understand 100% how cell phones work, so feel free to fill me in here, but wouldn't you need the satellite to receive your call request and send it to the proper phone number, or can it send out a signal and find that other phone without a satellite???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasTitor Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Great question! Ok, it can call another phone 30 miles away, BUT how can it locate a phone number back in a time when that sort of thing didn't exist? I don't understand 100% how cell phones work, so feel free to fill me in here, but wouldn't you need the satellite to receive your call request and send it to the proper phone number, or can it send out a signal and find that other phone without a satellite???? John and I can call each other back and forth right now from ship2ship or ship2shore on our portable VHF/UHF radios. Modified/hacked cell phones can do the same. Your phone has all the necessary hardware to recieve many radio signals, including AM/FM. So if John and I went for a stroll in 1930, our equipment would work great, with minimal radio interference. Were actually in the process of modifying a computer wifi card antenna array so the mast of the sailboat functions as the antenna and the sail as a parabolic dish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpa Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Where you buy your marine radios is not what I asked. I asked for the source of your claim that a cell phone can transmit to another cell phone 30 miles away without the need for towers. The effective range of a walkie-talkie, under a thousand dollars and not requiring a license, is around 6 miles... on a really good day. The 30 mile claim made by manufacturers is the theoretical maximum, under perfect conditions. I have never heard of anyone getting 30 miles without increased output wattage, which would be illegal in most cases. Your 30 mile horizon claim is still unanswered. (an old ditty) How far can you see at sea... it's easy as 123...the sqrt of your elevation times 1.23 = LOS,nm Are you at least slightly familiar with the concept of radio wave communications? Slightly. The radio horizon follows a near line of sight propagation with atmospheric conditions affecting it to an extent, sometimes referred to as "skip", otherwise referred to as refraction. As far as radio wave propagation... this link works well enough; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation These have been around for 30 years, but I think the spread spectrum frequency technology was invented by Hedy Lamar during WW2 if I recall colonel Lewaynes history lesson correctly. Hedy Lamarr received a patent for a design she co-invented using frequency hopping spread spectrum technology as a counter measure to jamming radio controlled torpedoes but, she was far behind the others who first knew of it. There is no history of it ever being developed for use. So, your "colonel Lewaynes" was passing on a bit of trivia but, nothing of historical significance. So, I would still like to see your source for the cell phone transmitting about 30 miles with no towers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Here's an article on Cracked that lists 16 explanations for the time traveler caught on film. Get ready to laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulaJedi Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Here's an article on Cracked that lists 16 explanations for the time traveler caught on film. Get ready to laugh! hahahahaha some of these made me laugh out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 hahahahaha some of these made me laugh out loud. "Hello? Sandwich? Are you delicious? You sound so far away. I miss you." :lol::lol::lol: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasTitor Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 [ATTACH=full]230[/ATTACH] The radio transmission antennae is affixed atop of the mast of each ship. As you can see, several of these masts are well over 40 ft tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpa Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 JudasTitor; Each time... you simply answer the question I posed, with some other inference that has little or nothing to do with the question: 30 mile cell phone!?! Sorry for the confusion, I know it's electrical engineering and a bit much to digest. So it would appear, for you, based on your answers. I too have to ask; Are you at least slightly familiar with the concept of radio wave communications? This is a fact... A fixed-mount marine radio range, depending on antenna height, is about 25 miles. A handheld will likely be about a five mile range. Not accounting for repeaters, which can increase the range or adverse weather conditions, which can reduce the range. I have to wonder; are you really just one of the people that sit on the dock and watch all the other people going out with their boats; dreaming what it must be like; making comments on internet forums like you know what's what when, you actually have no clue. Were actually in the process of modifying a computer wifi card antenna array so the mast of the sailboat functions as the antenna and the sail as a parabolic dish. I missed this earlier. Now, I'm not an expert in this field but, this influences my opinion; I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about. If this can be done, someone please explain it to me. If anyone is actually interested in this discussion, this link explains why I take exception to JudasTitor's unsupported claims. http://electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinterest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thinking either TTers or government people of that time.Absolutely hands off. Could be prestidigitation by some mental op org. so no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_skeith Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I've seen a lot of these cell phone videos about time travelers, but logically it makes no sense. I assume if time travel has such restrictions to look like some in the past, they would be forbidden to use any tech, not that tech could ever be made to receive signals all the way from the past. Just don't make sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was just thinking, if time travel was indeed possible and the lady was really using a cellphone on that video there shouldn't be a question as to the impossibility of it because of the absence of a signal. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe there is a possibility of getting a signal from the present time to the past because if indeed a person has travelled through time, then we are mainly talking about 'time' in its true essence. The person travelled through time only, not from one place to another. He/she didn't travel milky ways away through space into another galaxy. So the possibility of being able to find a way of using a cellphone through different time lines could be possible. Who knows, when that person travelled in the far future, there was some kind of a technological invention that could allow the use of certain gadgets through different time lines. Come to think of it, it could be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was just thinking, if time travel was indeed possible and the lady was really using a cellphone on that video there shouldn't be a question as to the impossibility of it because of the absence of a signal. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe there is a possibility of getting a signal from the present time to the past because if indeed a person has travelled through time, then we are mainly talking about 'time' in its true essence. The person travelled through time only, not from one place to another. He/she didn't travel milky ways away through space into another galaxy. So the possibility of being able to find a way of using a cellphone through different time lines could be possible. Who knows, when that person travelled in the far future, there was some kind of a technological invention that could allow the use of certain gadgets through different time lines. Come to think of it, it could be possible. This does happen in the fictional time travel world of Doctor Who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellajanelle Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well, with all your different theories, I'm not sure what to believe in but I'm inclined to the idea that the "phones" are a mistake. I still think there would be no way for signals to find their way back to the 1930s no matter what so there's really no way for mobile phones to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuZyOn Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I really want to believe this but that is very little evidence. I think the video needs to be much more high quality for us to draw conclusions. Anyways, thanks for the share, it's a really interesting, eye-opening video that makes you question some things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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