Time Particle

[RainmanTime]

Re: Time Particle-chronotons and parsufims

 

Greetings Transient!

 

However consider the following have you thought about how those sets of three's relate to each other? Also how are those sets of 3's suspended in the medium. Are they surrounded by an even more ominous force, structure, or energy construct?

Yes, indeed, I have thought about this. I believe (and science seems to back this up) that the "medium" is energy itself. As to the structure, I do believe Stan Tenen has got it right with his 3,10 Torus Knot. Like I have pointed out in this thread, I think the 3 "ribbons" of the Knot represent the Massive SpaceTime Matrix. The central "axis" of the Knot, where the 3 "ribbons" intertwine in 10 distinct turns, is what I believe describes the Massive SpaceTime Matrix that we live in. In other words, the "fabric" of Mass, Space, and Time is very thickly woven in the universe we exist in. Outside the "axis" we see that Mass, Space, and Time not only become much less dense, but they "define" a sphere that encompasses the "axis" that they define. I would hazard to guess that this sphere represents the sea of eternal Energy.

I know I am making very little sense here, but try and imagine what would happen when KThR meets MLKVTh. And Daath is simply a circle representing your mind. Capable of making the size of that TOL bigger or smaller at will. Think abbout what you will find inside, think about the paths, how will they be organized. Then extrapolate it and see as it blossoms into the four realms becoming a sixteenth dimensional figure as the sword of IHVH.

Interesting! Yes, since Kether and Malkuth obviously form the two polar elements of the central axis of Being, I have often thought about what happens when they "merge". You paint an interesting picture, but I am limited by my "engineering" approach...which means I try to think in terms of diagrams, and picturing what you are saying is a bit difficult. Got any pictures you can share or refer to? That would certainly help! Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

 

 

[RainmanTime]

Howdy 1stborn!

 

but What if a time particle existed but was not the "smallest" element of anything. Instead it is made up of a "Active, Neutral, and Passive" or "Past, Present, Future".. that fits in to what you are saying.

Now we're getting somewhere! Yes, this is how I envision how the "Active, Neutral, Passive" elements of Time integrate to create "Past, Present, Future". In this case, what you (and maybe Roel? ) are doing is essentially creating the Time equivalent of an atom, right? All atoms (with the exception of Hydrogen) contain various mixtures of Electrons, Protons, and Neutrons.

This is my dream : A time particle is discovered and we can manipulate it like we do space and mass.

I would think, just by the way we observe how Mass, Space, and Time integrate in our physical world, that if we did "discover" a time particle, we would find that it is directly relateable (i.e. in an equation format) to specific configurations of Mass Density (i.e. Mass per Volume).Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

 

 

[zerubbabel]

Hey Rainman,

 

For some reason my emails are not getting through to you. Send me an email and I'll check the address again. Later

 

 

[Roel van Houten]

but What if a time particle existed but was not the "smallest" element of anything. Instead it is made up of a "Active, Neutral, and Passive" or "Past, Present, Future".. that fits in to what you are saying.

Yes, brilliant! I wonder if perhaps it's better to think of it as a "state" rather than a "part" of the timeparticle, but that's just the eyeopener I needed to continue this conversation.

 

In this case, what you (and maybe Roel?) are doing is essentially creating the Time equivalent of an atom, right?

Yes and no. Calling it the Time equivalent of an atom sounds so definite. I don't want to confine myself to the model of an atom. Like I said, perhaps we have to think of it as 3 states instead of 3 seperate parts.

 

directly relateable

Yes, undoubtedly. Which reminds me of a question. Ray, how would you define Space in your model. What is Space? Not in a scientific context, but more like a description of how you think we would perceive Space.

Mmmh, I feel like I'm ready for another round. Lets write some history here...

 

Greetings,

 

Roel

 

Oh, btw, thanks 1stBorn for opening my eyes

 

 

[RainmanTime]

Hi Roel...just now getting around to this one...

 

Which reminds me of a question. Ray, how would you define Space in your model. What is Space? Not in a scientific context, but more like a description of how you think we would perceive Space.

Well, this question would be equivalent to how would I define Mass or Time in my model. What is Mass? What is Time? What is Space?They are all equivalent questions, you see. Because they are all decomposed (described or defined) in equivalent ways. They are all 3-dimensional things.So to answer your question of how Space is defined, it should directly equate to how we human perceive Space, right? And that is as 3-dimensional DISTANCE. We perceive discrete distances in space between ourselves and any other thing in Space. And we perceive these things in the 3 dimensions of Length, Breadth, and Depth.

The 3-D thing we call Space is the palette for a universal Creation of the 3-D thing we call Mass.

 

Time is the 3-D domain of this Creation of Mass-per-Space (Density).

 

Does that help at all, or just confuse things more? It really is all very clear when you have a good working knowledge of vectors and tensors. It is why I would only expect someone with a science or engineering background to understand what I am getting at. But you have done quite well in grasping the basics of the 3x3 Matrix model.

 

Can you see enough evidence for how all things can be broken down into sets of 3's at all sorts of different systemic levels?

 

Kind Regards,

 

RainmanTime

 

 

[temporel]

"Can you see enough evidence for how all things can be broken down

 

into sets of 3's at all sorts of different systemic levels?"

 

you mean three as 3 spatial dimensions,

 

if so we will still need the 4 dimension (the fourth coordinate)

 

to determinate the physical phenomenon

 

 

[RainmanTime]

Hi Temporel:

 

you mean three as 3 spatial dimensions,

if so we will still need the 4 dimension (the fourth coordinate)

 

to determinate the physical phenomenon

Yes. Exactly. That is the position of self from which we all perceive. We are all singular beings that exist and perceive in 3 spatial dimensions of Space. But do you also recognize the 3 massive dimensions of Mass? And do you also recognize the 3 temporal dimensions of Time?What if we really exist in 9 dimensions, described by a 3x3 matrix of Massive SpaceTime? If we do live in this type of structured matrix, then that would make each of us the 10th element in this 3x3 matrix of Mass+Space+Time reference field.

Would you care to share more of your thoughts from your point in Massive SpaceTime?

 

Kind Regards,

 

RainmanTime

 

 

[temporel]

Hello RainmanTime

 

"Would you care to share more of your thoughts from your

 

point in Massive SpaceTime?"

 

well every one know that the mass (bending) the spacetime,

 

we take a three dimensional space then we curve making a trough

 

inside and we bring it into a 4 dimension, we can then feel, weigh,

 

touch this regular mass. so far for us it is real and the existence of a mass

 

creating a spacetime curve.

 

if it was the inverse, that a whatsoever mass/energy, gravity was the consequence

 

of a spacetime curve?

 

a temporel

 

 

[temporel]

I find also something interesting about the "Sephirotique tree"

 

in the Cabbale.

 

at the start of the creation there is 3 pole (source) of fundamental energy,

 

a sphere called "kether" including 2 others "bina" space and "hochma" time

 

so if time and space preexist at the creation, and theirs undulation (vibration)

 

may creating the curves, the curves could had created the matter...

 

a temporel

 

 

[RainmanTime]

Hello Temporel:

 

well every one know that the mass (bending) the spacetime,

we take a three dimensional space then we curve making a trough

 

inside and we bring it into a 4 dimension, we can then feel, weigh,

 

touch this regular mass. so far for us it is real and the existence of a mass

 

creating a spacetime curve.

Yes, I understand that this is the way it is commonly described. We think of Space as being 3-D and the current thought about Time is that it is the 4th warped dimension of Space. But what if the 4th dimension is one dimension above the 3 dimensions we know as Mass, Space, and Time. And what if Mass and Time were also 3-dimensional, just like you and I know that Space is 3-dimensional? Divisions of 3 integrate very well with each other.I would propose that when we talk about "SpaceTime" we are actually talking about a 6 dimensional manifold. 3 dimensions of Space, and 3 dimensions of Time. When you link these up with 3 dimensions of Mass, you have a 9-dimensional Matrix. In this view, the 10th dimension would correspond to the single Being that integrates all 9 dimensions below it.

The 10 fingers of our human body architecture is a reminder that we are the 10th element at the center of the 3x3=9 dimensional Matrix.

 

Do you think that such a view of Mass/Space/Time can "fit" within how we perceive and interact with our universe?

 

Kind Regards,

 

RainmanTime

 

 

[temporel]

Yes I like the idea of a 9 dimensional matrix, then following your analyze as the 10th element ,

 

we have to find a way to integrates it , with out any extra mass, what if we were only allowed

 

to interact using a representation of our self with a (spiritual, or astral) approach in mater to

 

keep the balancing of the forces. If we can't we will need machine and computer help, let's

 

presume that we know how to recreate a 9 dimensional matrix, the 3 Dimensions of mass (perhaps the dark matter) will be only there as the consequence of the 2 others forces right?, (space n time), then we will need a anti-gravity system into a sphere to be the 10th and central element.

 

a temporel

 

 

[Zen]

The Big Bang began time moving as it is now, while the universe was expanding. Is it possible that during the contraction leading up to the Big Crunch that time will run backward, or at least slow down?

 

 

[creedo299]

Read the Andreasson Affair and The Watchers by Betty Luca?

 

Everything is in there about what God really is.

 

This was a mobile production plan, that once man was devised, then the God production unit, might have moved on.

 

This is why for people on this globe, that the key production areas, of space exploration were so very very important from years 1986 on.

 

Were going into social collapse now, so what are our collective chances for survival, if we don't divest as a civilization and get into space?

 

I would say not good.

 

The future must be so miserable for Chronohistorian, that he had to come back here in order to find what even proper semi-civilzation was like.

 

It's all in the Greening of American and Alvin Toffelair's book, Future Shock.

 

We are in an era where abnormal is starting to become normal?

 

 

[Zen]

But from collapse comes rebuilding.

 

 

[creedo299]

Zen' you don't know that?

 

There might have been some moral effect placed on Earth, say if God were in residence here.

 

It might be that the width and breadth of society gets too complex for the Angelic heiarchies to officate over and the God complex, moves entirly off this planet in the future?

 

In this case, there would be no rebuilding.

 

>I point to Pamela Moore as she had dreams or some kind of expiernece of time traveling with superbeings...?

 

Don't know, drop her a note, in her PM, here or visit Anomalies.net in TT.

 

What if Chrono is from a neighboring timeline and not this one????

 

 

[Zen]

You make it sound as if divine intervention is the only part of it, or perhaps I misread your comment. It is quite possible that there is a God in one form or the other, but I do not wish to get into a theological argument of any kind.

 

 

[Zen]

On the subject of a neighboring timeline.... It seems to me that if he were he would not only have suffered significant physical trauma, but also the psychological and culture shock would essentially kill him, or at least "erase" his mind, making it impossible for him to know of it. Also, if one was from the future and had come to the present day (whenever you perceive that to be) one would not broadcast it to the world, preferring relative secrecy in order to complete one's mission (unless one arrived in the present day by accident, which is so unlikely as to be a frivolous concept). Being from a neighboring dimension, whose time flow is currently in the year he suggests, which then coincides with the current date, is a slightly more believable theory. It is quite possible that that is the year in his dimension is as he suggests, and a dimensional rift, if you will, may have opened or have been opened for his use.

 

 

[creedo299]

Zen, not theosphicle, how the making of man actually worked,

 

Got to look at the info given?

 

 

[KnowThyself]

creedo!

 

What are you doing wasting time posting on these boards!? You know you should be cleaning the portable particle-accelerator. After the last little stint you did, I am sure your supervisor will not be pleased at hearing you goofing off again !

 

Get back to work, creedo. These are orders by mandate 1927.x3 of the Galactical Time-Travel Patrol.

 

Your android,

 

KnowThyself

 

 

[CAT]

I think we're all making headway here!!! And a very good question or explanation of how Mass, Space and Time coexists and integrates...It all boils down to particle physics. Ray calls it a "Matrix", TimeSoldier00 called it a "swivel", Transient call it the "medium/PTP" and Zerub calls it a "friend". But for lack of a better word, I'd like to call it "A FILING SYSTEM!" to form/add a logical function to all this chaos.

 

From different eyes the integration of mass, time and space is seen in numbers... Numbers as in atomic particles having their own intelligent self organizing and instructing program with a "filing system" into a deliberate order where electromagnetic like charges repel while opposites attract.

 

Imagine yourself as the filer? (The generated "energy" source that is the manipulator of organization). You have piles ontop of piles of paperwork (sheer chaos) (information of time) that need to be stored somewhere and at some point retrieved for memory or audit. "you" the filer first must have spaces in which to put/store all this "mass". So you invent "filing cabinets" (space). Than you have to intelligently look at the paperwork (information) and realize that it has to have a logical number system to all the "mass chaos". You realize/or assign a number system/sequence...Perhaps this sequence would have a date number system accompanied by rev's of the same number, but the rev's go from the largest number backwards while the regular numbering sequence goes forwards...This allows space in-between for merging and expansion... Its funny because this is the same way that Phi/GMS\Fibonacci growth pattern takes form by growing from forward and leaving space in-between...Example: 1/1, 1/2, 2/3, 3/5, 5/8, 8/13, 13/21, 1/1, 2/1, 3/2, 5/3, 8/5, 13/8, 21/13, ...

 

If we are going to look for the answers anywhere we should start by imagining if we are inside of an atom, seeing only electrons whirling chaotically around you. If you moved outside the atom you would see those electrons moving with a pattern around the atom. If you rise further above you see that atoms are actually the building blocks of larger structures called molecules. And so it goes, on up the scale, ad infinitum...The ever familiar "forest from the trees" syndrome. It's all a matter of perspective. True creativity is allowing yourself to gain the loftiest perspective you can in relation to the object of your inquiry. A tree for example should not be looked at as just the tree, one should see its purpose and life cycle from seed to growth on up...not just seeing it as a biological organism, but a numbering sequence of math numbers...An ordered filing system!

 

Now when we apply these similar measurements and numbers to time, space and the stars, we can calculate and find the phi growth pattern in any sector of space, that will determine not necessarily the shortest route, but the proper flow/growth/expansion cycle from getting from point A to B much quicker.

 

Due to the fact that energy only exists in wave formations (swirls), Frequency of wave rotation is subject to other energetic formations...We should be asking and seeking questions like, what are the life cycles of matter in the universe? understanding the entire process of cosmic evolution from the formation of chemical elements, galaxies, stars and planets, through the mixing of chemicals and energy that cradles life on Earth, to the earliest self replicating organisms and the profusion of life.

 

This is the life cycle of a particle:

 

 

Space, Mass, Energy, and Time function as one unit, which constitutes an integral part of energetic matter's activities. Where space is expanded, time is prolonged, or expanded, in proportion to the increase in energetic activity. Since energetic matter is found in closed, spiral rings/quants, time is a obviously a component of these structures as well.

 

Time curves around a particular space that surrounds stars and other massive objects and that at great velocities time is extended...A high energy wave has a greater energetic periphery than a low energy (and thus smaller) wave. Furthermore, energy rotates along a larger circuit and time is consequently extended. If energy is added to a defined space, time also expands and vice versa. A example of this is a pulsar (neutron stars) that loses its peripheral energy and subsequently rotates more rapidly. In other words, time decreases relative to the decrease in energetic matters space. Loss of energy means loss of time and space, while an increase in energy is synonymous with larger space and extended time. Time thus depends on the size of and amount of energy in a wave. This unbelievable ingenious creation that we call the universe contains various smaller creations that have "shorter" times. Therefore the universe contains separate times...Although, Every small formation belongs to a greater formation, which together comprise the entire universe that we also refer to as absolute time...

 

 

[lobster]

The smallest particle / wave is always undiscovered. So for example the Higgs Boson is small enough not to exist

 

you can find more here . .

 

Particle Time Signature