RainmanTime Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Well, I had asked Roel to start a new thread, so that we could talk about science and advances in science, irrespective of the perspective of a God. I guess he didn't get around to it, so I thought that I would take the initiative... especially since our conversation in the other thread has arrived at the point of talking about probability distributions, and non-linear thinking. Would anyone like to talk about how exploiting non-linear phenomenon in the coming years is going to revolutionize science, and what we are capable of doing? Did anyone else read the website I provided on the distinction between our normative, linear thinking, and expanded non-linear thinking? Would we all be willing to agree that non-linear control of energy events will be a necessary preceding technology for time travel? I certainly think so. RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roel van Houten Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? guess he didn't get around to it, so I thought that I would take the initiative... Great initiative. Thanks Ray. Actually I kinda forgot. I was too busy replying in the other thread At the moment I do not have the time, nor inspiration to make a useful contribution, so I'll jump in later on. Right now, it's time for bed. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creedo299 Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Creedo bows out of this thread, as Creedo299 realizes God as an actual being, not a force to be margined with, for personal gain. What seems to be attempted in this thread, is akin to getting a rope around the neck of a twenty foot crockadial and being able to lead him out of the water by yourself, with a little encouragement. After a time however, with the absence of day falling to night, you are alone and finally realize that you have a very large potentially hostile reptile, on a short amount of rope. Gods is a being and can and does react to people who try to margin him, for their principles?! Good luck, I hope you know what you're doing in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerubbabel Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Hey Rainman, Sounds like a plan. Could you repost that website you mentioned? I'm not sure where it was located. I'm a great fan of non-linear thinking--both on a personal level and the general level. We really have to stretch our minds to think in this manner. It requires an openness and willingness to step out of the box to discover truths that lie beneath the surface. The mind is a wondrous instrument that can be trained to filter out the superfluous and banal arguments that appear to be "set in stone". We are really fortunate to be in a time where everything is being placed on the table, and ideas previously discarded in the linear chain of events are now considered valid enough to be "re-explored". As always, it is a pleasure to discuss these things with you and others of like mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 8, 2004 Author Share Posted August 8, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Hiya Zerub! Could you repost that website you mentioned? Most certainly! Especially for someone who wishes to discuss the important points it makes about how we are "trained" to perceive linearly. Time travel will, without a doubt, require us to understand and master the universe's non-linear effects. Living as if the linear realm is all there is would be tantamount to admitting bear skins and stone knives were the only tools needed to create an advanced society. A History of Linear Logic. I'm a great fan of non-linear thinking--both on a personal level and the general level. We really have to stretch our minds to think in this manner. It requires an openness and willingness to step out of the box to discover truths that lie beneath the surface. There is an important relationship between non-linearity and probability distributions, as I was discussing in the other thread. When we limit our thinking and belief systems to the "more probable" aspects based on what our physical senses perceive, we are, in essence saying that we will only accept those experiences we have that are somewhere within the largest part of the bell-shaped curve (close to the mean). The effects that show up close to the mean are the more linear effects. The effects that show up at the extremes of the curve (i.e. 2-3 Sigma and beyond) are the more non-linear effects. As science has demonstrated to us that the power of non-linear phenomenon is much greater than linear phenomenon, we must begin to seriously re-evaluate those "less probable" phenomenon that were dismissed over the years, for in these types of phenomenon lies the key to applying non-linear logic, and therefore the key to advancements like time travel. We are really fortunate to be in a time where everything is being placed on the table, and ideas previously discarded in the linear chain of events are now considered valid enough to be "re-explored". Indeed we are lucky. Some may wish to argue that Science and Spirituality will never be reconciled, and others may actively work to try to make sure they are not reconciled. But each time modern science "discovers" something that aligns with mystical knowledge that has been part of spiritual traditions for many years, we get one step closer to this eventual reconciliation. In fact, I would call it a RE-reconciliation, for if the ancients knew the "secrets" of science and embedded them in their religious texts, then we are doing nothing more than recreating the blend of scientific spirituality that they already possessed. RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 9, 2004 Author Share Posted August 9, 2004 Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) The reason that circular, spiral, spherical, toroidal, and vortex motions are becoming the focus of all physics, at this point in time, is because the circle (cycle) possesses the "truth" of non-linearity. This is because the line is nothing more than the circle that is broken open and laid flat. Time is a closed loop, just like Mass is a closed loop, just like Space is a closed loop. We all know that Mass is a closed loop because of the cycle of birth, life, death, and degeneration recycles Mass. One form of Mass recycles into another form of Mass...endlessly. We also know that space ia a closed loop because Space is always being re-used. Where there was an open field of Space years ago, now there is a thriving community of citizens. Where there were no humans in Space 100 years ago, now we have regular human presence in the Space we call earth orbit. We re-use Space just like we re-use Mass. They are both re-cyclable portions of the total Energy Matrix. The other re-cyclable form of the Energy Matrix is Time. Just like its partners Mass and Space, Time also operates in closed-loop cycles. History repeats itself... endlessly. Yet each Time it repeats itself, history allows different decisions (Free Will) to act. Time is the most precious of the re-cyclable forms of the Energy Matrix to our physical human selves. A cycle of Time is called its Frequency. By understanding how to manipulate frequencies (Gain & Phase) we will understand how to manipulate Time. Time travel (modification) is really nothing more than a control system problem in understanding the blendings of all Mass and Space frequencies. However, up until now, mankind has always built linearized control systems. Now that we understand the science of non-linear phenomenon, we can and are implementing non-linear, closed-loop control systems to achieve orders of magnitude better performance. In other words, systems that generate less heat-waste. The circle, cycle, spiral motif (as opposed to the "old world" linear model) represents eternal renewal and eternal Creation. It is already in use in a great many systems in our world, and you might not even realize it. But this is what the information age has done for us. As we continually update the software of humanity, we are closing the loop on our knowledge of how Mass, Space, and Time interact with one another to form The Matrix of Massive SpaceTime. RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerubbabel Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) Hey Rainman, I finally got through reading the link on transformational thinking. I found very little that I disagreed with. As a matter of fact, it is a fair description of how I try to establish communication with others. I have found that it is a workable solution with many people that I have little or nothing in common with. In a very real sense, it is MY box that I occasionally have to step out of INTO linear thinking. Trust and respect are absolutely necessary, and usually I have to step out of the box of transformational thinking when that trust and respect are absent. An example of this was when I worked with institutionalized juveniles. Invariably, any new kid that came into my program had the institutional life down pat. As with any authority figure, they knew exactly how to "play" the system and "show" their willingness to be "good". For the first two or three weeks, they were model citizens. Eventually, the "facade" fades and the true personality shines through. That was when their problems with peers started to really develop and the defects in their character that led them to crime or antiestablishment (school, parents, police, etc.) started to rear its ugly head. Traditional methods of treatment taught them how to behave, but it did nothing to change their thinking process. When they got out of the institution, all tho old problems eventually returned and they ended up being recycled through the system again and again. Many of them returned to the institution (reform school) as many as 6 to 7 times before going on to higher learning (prison). The basics of my program was to destroy all forms of linear thinking that they had accumulated throughout their short life span. I accomplished this through a core group of peers that had been trained in recognizing the "cons" that had once served themselves quite well in the "hood". It was a terrible thing to see these peers totally tear down whatever defense mechanisms that had served these kids so well to survive. What resulted, no matter how strong the kid was, was a person with no hold upon their reality. Nothing they could say or do would allow escape. All avenues were cut off. They went through a whole gamut of emotions that gave them no respite. No experience in their life had prepared them for this. They had become devoid of defense mechanisms and totally at a loss as to how to defend themselves. They almost became babies again. It was at this point that we all gathered around him and showed him our love. We would hug him and show him that it was ok to not be "strong". The change was always remarkable. Invariably, their eyes would open wide in wonder at the "acceptance". From that point on, they were different people. Everything became possible and they became "human" again. They could think outside the box and realized that although nothing had really changed but them, EVERYTHING had changed. It was really difficult for me to tear them down in this way by stepping out of the box of my own transformational thinking and USE linear thinking, but the end result was worth it. After about 4 months (the usual stay), they were eager to go back out in the world and enjoy life the way it was meant to be. Out of all the kids that went through this program, only two returned--but with the full realization that it was them who stepped out of the box. After about a month of helping others through the program, they left and were never returned. This is the kind of change that we must go through to take the next step in our "evolution". Time travel takes a similar kind of change. In my study of the possibilities, a linear thinking person will never be able to make the transition. It is far more than just moving our bodies from one time period to another. Our minds and "spirit" must also make the transition. I believe the "forces" that govern this universe will never allow an unscrupulous entitity to affect this realm in a negative or selfish way. It will take a transformed individual to enter the paradigm shift. At first, I think it will be by artificial means and in a protected environment such as merkaba. As we get our "time legs", we will be able to do it at will. Thanks for the link. It was a nice confirmation for me. Linearly thinking, I have doubt that this will ever become universal. Non-linearly, maybe it doesn't have to be. It only took one Copernicus, Einstein or Tesla to make others think outside the box. As you know, I have little faith in a pie-in-the-sky deliverance. We, as a species, have to work through our problems and find our answers. It will not be done for us nor will it be accomplished through linear thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) Hi Zerub, As you know, I have little faith in a pie-in-the-sky deliverance. We, as a species, have to work through our problems and find our answers. It will not be done for us nor will it be accomplished through linear thinking. And might I add this: We cannot expect to be provided linear "proof" for that which is inherently non-linear. Our entire lives we are trained to think linearly. It should be no surprise that even the strongest of human characters can be stuck in this mode. As I mentioned, even the "gods" of my profession were obsessed with developing linearized closed-loop control laws for systems intended to control nature. Even though they were smart enough to realize that nature was inherently non-linear, they insisted on trying to linearize phenomenon via the control laws they designed for no other reason than the resulting systems were "easier to analyze". If that is not ego talking, I don't know what is! The problems began to come about when major accidents (and loss of life) came about because of highly non-linear combinations of effects. Suddenly, we came to realize that one or two "second order" effects could, if they occurred at the same time, essentially overpower the linear equations that normally do a good job of controlling the system. Here is another exercise to help us think non-linearly. We always seem to focus on Mass...."stuff". And yet it is even clear to our senses: What is there MORE of, Mass or Space? Obviously the answer is Space since all Mass exists within it. However, we always tend to think (linearly) that "Space is Empty". The non-linear thinker turns this "linear logic" on its head, and realizes that Space is not only far from empty, but held within this "emptiness" of Space is the largest portion of universal Energy. Now how do we go about tapping into it? I am not sure at this point, but I am definitely sure that we will not arrive at an answer by linear thinking. I'm keeping my eye on several of our most gifted physicists as they grapple with the mystery of Dark Energy and Dark Matter. It is exciting to watch and know that we really are extremely close to a major "A ha" on this matter. Things will never be the same once we cross that bridge. It will be the End of Ordinary Time, as prophesied! RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roel van Houten Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Re: Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) It is exciting to watch and know that we really are extremely close to a major "A ha" on this matter. Yes. Projects like this will also help gather more and more information about our universe. With a little imagination you can even consider LOFAR as a non-linear way of looking at the universe. Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerrTexas Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Re: Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) Is it coincidence or ?. I have been reading some of the posts in other threads, and it seems that others are foretelling a catastrophic event. The tension for those of us who are aware, is mounting and will be breaking in the not to distant future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 Re: Cycle => Circle => NOT (Linear) Yes, I've noticed it as well. I guess one could look on it as "catastrophic" if one thought that existence ended at death. Yes, I have felt the tension building. But then again, one often feels great tension right before the beauty of sexual release. It's all in the perspective! RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyrang Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? I am new to all this, but I have a question. In the future, will it be possible for people to go on extended high speed space rides, for the sole purpose of aging slower than someone on earth? Do anyone think this will be a common event? [email redacted] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creedo299 Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Well, well, I guess that you could say that the concept of aliens is nonlinnear, as they are supposedly one thing and then another. Nobody Told Me from link>http://www.letssingit.com/?http://www.letssingit.com/john-lennon-nobody-told-me-2p518h1.html by John Lennon Album : Submitted by : Luigi Lamanna Corrected by : Everybody's talking and no one says a word Everybody's making love and no one really cares There's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs Always something happening and nothing going on There's always something cooking and nothing in the pot They're starving back in China so finish what you got Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Strange days indeed -- strange days indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Well, I guess Creedo has decided we are no longer going to talk about non-linear phenomenon in this thread! I've said it before and I'll say it again, Creedo: I think you have an alien fetish. Went to a California Angels game tonight... we beat Baltimore 4-2. I'm laying bricks in my backyard, and will finish the project this weekend. I'm looking at buying a flat-bottom speed boat. Looks like a good buy, and I can still get in a few trips to Lake Havasu and maybe Lake Powell this year. See! I can write all sorts of off-topic material too! RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creedo299 Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Youre absolutely right, Ray,............ The process of laying bricks in your baCK yard, would be considered linear, however the mistakes, nonlinear. However, truly nonlinear, would be a 1960s version, of an Indianapolis race car, sitting on those bricks, once the bricks are laid. *Saying:My attempt to place Rainmantime in a bouffant, is not so much an affectation of diversion towards his persona, in order to make him look silly. but' is a flirtation, that the good Libnets, inventor of algebra, also wore a towering head-piece as well? Bee in your bonnet...? Hat selector to magician Harry Potter, visiting Dumbeldoor, due to the problems at Hog Warts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerrTexas Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? I am new to all this, but I have a question. In the future, will it be possible for people to go on extended high speed space rides, for the sole purpose of aging slower than someone on earth? Who knows, that may be a new area of commercialism. Instead of Timeshares, one could purchase time on a vessel that does exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerrTexas Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Was crusing the net and found this site. www.vrealities.com Wearable computers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azkaban Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? As I have often found in the time I have known you, Rainman, you are on the cutting edge of scientific thought. Certain others in this forum may not wish to open their eyes to the integration of spiritual traditions with scientific concepts. However, there is a lot of information out there that is clearly telling us that the way of science in our future is headed towards integration of thought, rather than further division or specialization or analysis of minutia. Non-linear thought processes and inquiry will pave the way. The following is just one paper that expounds on these ideas. If this does not generate some discussion, I have another link that is much more broad in its content that may provide further "evidence" for the skeptics. http://vlad-home-page.fcpages.com/internet-papers/life-dynamics.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerrTexas Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? If you get a chance to view that website, they are combining the VR equipment to create a wearable computer. Imagine the possiblities of this technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Hey Az, Holy cow, Dude! Where do you find these things??? This paper is fantastic, as it brings together a lot of the points I was trying to make in other threads, and ties them into chaos theory and the "strange attractors" of this form of math. Now I am sure there are some here who would try to debunk it, but I think this paper goes a long way to showing HOW we will need to integrate scientific and spiritual disciplines to further evolve. I could quote MANY passages in this paper to make my points, but I will start out with just one: To divide, separate and analyse - this is what science does very well. To unify, unite, and synthesise into an organic and indivisible wholeness is not easy for the fragmented scientific disciplines. There it is. The balancing opposites. And then the paper goes on to explain how non-linear inquiry is what will allow us to balance the two. As good as this link is, I can't imagine what else you've got up your sleeve! Well done, RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roel van Houten Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Certain others in this forum may not wish to open their eyes to the integration of spiritual traditions with scientific concepts. Hehe, certain others? Don't get me wrong, Ray's ideas do appeal to me... a lot. We don't have to agree on everything, now do we? Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creedo299 Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Creedo gets kicked out of time travel: Creedo gets kicked out of time travel: Creedo,..Roel, you wanted to see me? Roel,..Ah Dan, I got a call from the main office and they want me to ask you to transfer out. Creedo,..What did I do wrong, was it something I said? Roel,..Dan youre good, but you've apparently stepped on some toes and for your own good, I want you out of here and to transfer down to alternate energies. Creedo,..Crap' I knew that I was getting too close to something.Did they threaten you too Roel? Roel,..Dan, youre good at what you do.As a matter of fact your thoughts have pioneered areas of speculation in the field of time travel, that are way, way beyond what this community in time travel speculation can produce. Creedo,...There is a problem with this? Roel,..Dan, you've stepped on some toes and let's say, that it is better that you participate in some other area, that does not accuse someone. This is even though you might have a valid claim, for such items as lost time, or fish antibiotic capsules appearing from nowhere, that you can't explain. Creedo, guess this means I've got the boot? Roel,..No Dan, just a transfer till your either asked to come back, or till things cool down?! Here are some Dutch chocolate samples and a small bottle of vodka you can take with you. Creedo nods. I want your desk cleared out on this floor and you can open that new one down in alternate energies. Okay? Creedo,..Okay Roel, sorry to be a thorn under your saddle blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerrTexas Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Re: Creedo gets kicked out of time travel: During the month of July the weather was ok. At a small, rarely used airport a learjet slipped down onto the tarmack. Lights out, the engines were throttled back to reduce any noise that may carry into the dark of the night and draw unwanted attention. The jet made its way to the end of the runway and completely shut down and it moved silently up to a limosine that had been parked at the edge of the asphalt. The dim light came on as Roel stepped from the strecthed luxury automobile that was almost invisible at this hour of midnight. He pulled his overcoat a little tighter, since a cool breeze was blowing in from the east. Two men stepped down from the learjet, and they shook Roels outstretched hand in greeting. " Rainman, Ovrlrd, welcome to the Netherlands. Hope your journey was comfortable!" The men smiled.." It wasnt bad at all, Roel. Had to stop in London to hoist a pint or two with Trollface, or else we would have been here sooner." Roel understood. "Well, gentlemen, shall we...." as he pointed to the open door of the limo. Ovrlrd looked around, a little nervous, but Roel knew what Ovr was thinking. " Dont worry, my men are out in the woods, fully equipped to handle anything Creedo might throw down with." Rainman looked at Roel..." I certainly hope so. Awhile back he flew into L.A. and I almost had him when he got suspicious and how could I know he would actually connect a dead animal carcass with "our Plan"." OvrLrd peered at Rainman.." Yeah, he can be crafty that way. I think he is close to fiquring out the fish antibiotic capsules thing." Inside the security of the limo, Roel opened up the ice cooler and pulled out some beers. " I had a little chat with him today about transfering to another forum." Rainman appeared somewhat dismayed.." That isnt what we wanted at all. How are we going to continue gathering intelligence if he goes somewhere else?" " ...maybe we should back off a little, he is becoming suspicious. Remember, he spotted the red trans-am with the navy sticker on the window." Ovr commented as he read the label of the great tasting beverage. Roel had already finished his and reached for another beer, "Yeah, true. Well, I will explain to him that that isnt really necessary. He probasbly didnt like your rabbit story." " Well, you did agree that if he noticed our planted antibiotics, to try and distract him." " Yes, we did at that. But not to the point of Creedo not posting valueable information crucial to our cause." Rainamn sighed" Alright, what should we do now?" Roel looked from Rainman, to Ovr and back to Rainman. " I dont know, I certainly dont want to involve Azkaban unless it becomes absolutely necessary" " Ok, lets just leave things alone and see what happens. But we need to be careful. I dont want Creedo to do anything rash." The three men agreed on this course of action. As the limos taillights faded into the distance the learjet was already at alittude and on its way back to Los Angeles. The Time/Mass/Motion consortium was still alive and well in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 Re: Let's Talk Non-Linear Phenomenon, Shall We? Hehe, certain others? Don't get me wrong, Ray's ideas do appeal to me... a lot. We don't have to agree on everything, now do we? Oh of course not, Roel! We both know this is all fun, play, and cerebral interchange. It's what the internet is all about. Besides, it's Friday night... how could anyone have anything but FUN on their minds now that the work week is done!!!??? Besides, I am ROTFLMAO after reading OvrLrd's story in response to Creedo's! Hope everyone has a great weekend... me and my bricks wish ye well, RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 Re: Creedo gets kicked out of time travel: The Time/Mass/Motion consortium was still alive and well in the world. But if there is one thing that is always "THE truth" about the universe, it is that things change. Seasons change. People change. The thought was so powerful in his mind that OvrLrd was humming that tune out loud as the limo left Schiphol on its way to Arnhem. "The point is that Creedo is always modifying his thinking... he's changing, and it is getting harder for us to stay ahead of him" warned OvrLrd. He stared quite seriously into Rainman's eyes, and then shifted the same steely gaze to Roel. "I mean seriously, if he knew the three of us were together right now, on our way to do what we are going to do, he would already be on the doorstep of the Angelic Hierarchy." Rainman looked over at Roel as he finished his second Heinekin. "(Burp) Well, IMHO, I think I have done more than my share of luring him and baiting him on TTI. You remember that pact we made long ago when we met on TTI, Roel? It was about Creedo... and how we would handle him. Do you remember the protocol from those days?" Of course Roel remembered. How could he have forgotten something like that? It lead Roel to enact operation Chrono to keep Creedo focused on the Titor affair. If we couldn't keep Creedo focused on Titor, there would be no hope to get the world out of its drastic predicament. Roel pondered how well that part of the joint operations had worked out, "If it weren't for Trollface showing up when he did, without any of us expecting it, Creedo would have disengaged. Trollface getting the goods on Chrono is what kept Creedo on the trail. I still owe him some favors for joining the team!" "But do you think Creedo even suspects that Trollface is involved with the activities that OvrLrd and I are working on?" questioned Rainman. "If he does, he will be smart enough to follow that trail. I really hope that CAT mixing it up with Trollface kept him off that trail. Only TIME will tell that tale." The words of Roel and Rainman drifted into the back of OvrLrd's mind as he stared out into the crystal clear night sky. He looked at the belt of Orion. And he was worried sick about the Pleidians. If they didn't intercept that ship on its way to resupply the Greys on Mars, there was going to be hell to pay at NASA. "God Speed to you Transient" prayed OvrLrd out loud. "May your holy mission come to fruition." "Gentlemen, we are almost at the exit for Arnhem" announced Roel. "I am sure Nicknack will be glad to see you, since he has only had me to talk to over the last two days since he arrived. You know how I sort of get glazed over in the eyes when he starts to talk that God stuff. Maybe the 3 of you can meditate together and get that out of your system", he grinned as the limo veered off the highway. Rainman and OvrLrd both laughed out loud. The sound of 3 beer bottles clinking along with the laughter signaled the culmination of 2 long years worth of painful Net-work. The next 48 hours would be critical, and they were not going to be easy on anyone. But the prep work that OvrLrd & Rainman had laid down before they left LA would commence once that jet got back to LAX. If the phone call they all expected came through by 8AM, the SpaceTime rift would be armed, and the final solution would all depend on their upcoming operations in Zurich. Nicknack beamed a smile as the sleek car drove up to the modest residence. He had something in his hand, but OvrLrd couldn't quite make out what it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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