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Re: Interim Pope

 

Well, from what I've been hearing, this Pope isn't expected to last very long. I've seen the term interim Pope quite a bit.

 

So the time draws near for "the last Pope".

 

"""In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End."""

 

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After about 3hours of reading, and downloading the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew and English, all of which links, I did not think about copying:

 

One site said that the above statement is not really what is happening, and that it will be the Anti-Christ, and not wisdom.

 

By the way, upon reading interviews about the new Pope, as Cardinal, he had this to say back when:

 

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http://www.cardinalrating.com/cardinal_84__article_1174.htm

 

One question troubling him intellectually is that evil is so powerful in the world, however more powerful we believe God to be. Evidently God did want the Redeemer to be crucified as one who has failed. But why? It is touching that even the prefect of the Vatican's doctrinal congregation is confounded by this question.

 

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I can conjecture an answer about this even. (by the way the answer is up above!)

 

Oh, this website:

 

http://www.crystalinks.com/bible.html

 

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http://www.crystalinks.com/papalprophecies.html

 

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

 

10. PETER THE ROMAN - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

 

Malachy's final words, "Rome, the seat of the Vatican, will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."

 

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Something like quantum theory, with exact uncertainty and parallel worldlines (or is that just JT)

 

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Sacred Heart of Jesus!

 

Also given was the reason why the Immaculate Conception is used by the Vatican to lead to Jesus Christ, for the reason is that with the mercy, goodness, and grace of Mary, and the Immaculate Conception, all those doomday prophecies can be avoided, or at least the faithful can be saved.

 

I think that is in another section of the crystalinks.com website also!

 

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Ratzinger Ratzinger what have ye done, Pope in the eyes of the new world come. 1Benedictine6

Looking back, it's really quite remarkable that Zeshua correctly predicted that Ratzinger would ascend to the Papacy. According to articles in Slate and The National Catholic Reporter that were published immediately after John Paul II's death but before the Papal election, articles which tried to predict which of the Catholic Cardinals were most likely to win the vote, Ratzinger wasn't even on people's radar.

 

The Slate article figured that the most likely Cardinals were Francis Arinze, Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, Jean-Marie Lustiger, Lubomyr Husar, Dionigi Tettamanzi, Christoph Schönborn, Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino, and Godfried Danneels.

 

The National Catholic Reporter figured that the frontrunners were Francis Arinze, Ennio Antonelli, Francis Arinze, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Dario Castrillón Hoyos, Godfried Danneels, Julius Darmaatmadja, Ivan Dias, Claudio Hummes, Lubomyr Husar, Walter Kasper, Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez, Wilfrid Fox Napier, Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino, Marc Ouellet, Giovanni Battista Re, Norberto Rivera Carrera, Oscar Andrs Rodríguez Maradiaga, Christoph Schönborn, Angelo Scola, and Dionigi Tettamanzi.

 

Zeshua turned out to be better informed than the editorial sources of both of those publications.

 

- Peter

 

 

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>>On January 2, 2005, Time magazine quoted unnamed Vatican sources as saying that Ratzinger was a frontrunner to succeed John Paul II should the pope die or become too ill to continue as pope. On the death of John Paul II, the Financial Times gave the odds of Ratzinger becoming pope as 7–1, the lead position, but close to his rivals on the liberal wing of the church. In April 2005, before his election as pope, he was identified as one of the 100 most influential people in the world by Time magazine. While Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Ratzinger repeatedly stated he would like to retire to a Bavarian village and dedicate himself to writing books, but prior to the death of John Paul II, he told friends he was "ready to accept any charge God placed on him".<<

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI

 

 

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I refer above to the Slate article at http://www.slate.com/id/2089815/

 

and the National Catholic Reporter article at http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/update/conclave/top_candidates.htm

 

I see that someone above mentioned that their grandmother knew that Ratzinger was going to win the Papacy. Well, it seems that grandmother knew more than anyone working at those magazines did. On the other hand, the bookmakers did have Ratzinger as the frontrunner in the days leading up to the election.

 

- Peter

 

 

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My biggest problem with Zeshua is that she is constantly (falsibiably) contradicting herself. For example, from two of her earliest posts, she writes:

 

>>Responses will be slow but also instantaneous, be patient. I hope it works this time as I am a fan of the site, we all have read here for years.<<

 

>>In my time, it is currently February 25th 2025, although the response to your replies should appear almost instantaneous from our original post(s).<<

 

This is some fascinating stuff. It suggests that regardless of whatever time you read her posts, it will always be her present (or her distant past) and as such, she can instantaneously reply on this board.

 

In other words, I post a message on this board, it stays on this site for 20 years until she reads it, then she does her quantum tunneling back to my time and replies. The result of this is instantaneous communication in this present.

 

As far as the technology itself:

 

>>My team consists of 3 individuals, although we are non government funded, we have managed to obtain and will hopefully perfect the equipment that makes this possible.

 

>>The key to the success of our tunnel onto the internet at your time is wireless, certain servers in your time have recently gone online to enable this at the location we are at now.

 

>>Using miniature particle accelerators, our newly remodeled gravitron generator, several layers of CPUs as our quantum interference adjustments, we are attempting to send information back through time.

 

>>The computers are all homebuilt but nothing more than peta-processors, we can rent the computer time to get everything back up and running.

 

This is amazing stuff... if it was true, but it's not. If it was, there would be instantaneous communication which there clearly is not. And think about it- doesn't it only make sense that there should be? If you could send a message 20 years into the past, wouldn't you aim for the time right after the question was posed?

 

In a private message to me, she writes on 11/25/06:

 

>>Unfortunately I must soon disconnect the Bridge which allows me to communicate with you in the year 2006 from 2026, the year in which I am currently located.

 

I thank you for your concern and will gladly answer any questions that I can if posed. Please note, I receive almost all communications directed towards me within a matter of days, however replies are not always imminent and may be delayed. Several responses to previous questioners have been delayed by as much as a year. If this acceptable to you then I would be more than willing to continue a fruitful conversation which may be beneficial for us both.

 

Good Days My Friend,

 

Sara<<

 

And on 12/1/06 she writes me:

 

>>Your most perceptive statement, for which I am now quoting, "By sending the information from A to Z, the sender (point A) hopes this information will not alter spacetime to a degree of where A cannot possibly happen." This is the very Goal and Basis of the experiment. I Cannot and Must Not alter the Timeline to any degree by which the initial conditions are not present and the effect is uncaused.<<

 

Seemingly flies in the face of one of her first posts here:

 

>>I do look forward to helping, I am now pretty certain what can be said and what will alter the timeline too extremely. Please feel free, Ask away.<<

 

So apart from a Ratzinger reference on 4/19/05 for a pope that was announced on the same day, we have no tangable information to go on here- and as far as that goes, Time Magazine leaked that info over three months before then. Furthermore, I was there (we were all there) and there was a flurry of reports about Ratzinger becoming the next pope- we all remember John Paul II took very ill those last few months and they were talking about the pope retiring and a new pope getting elected etc... this is not new news, this is certainly not proof of information over time.

 

What would debunk everything I have just said here is if I post this message then moments later Zeshua replies- there would be no explanation for that. But of course the "Federal timequake cops in 2026" are on the lookout for any unauthorized timequakes which naturally explains why she can't.

 

I like a good story as much as the next guy but this ain't one. Furthermore, I predict in the near future (or in 2026), she will go about editing all her old posts (which I already have saved) in an attempt to explain all of these contradictions away as merely "timeslips".

 

 

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What would debunk everything I have just said here is if I post this message then moments later Zeshua replies- there would be no explanation for that. But of course the "Federal timequake cops in 2026" are on the lookout for any unauthorized timequakes which naturally explains why she can't.

Things are not always as they seem. Active Monitoring, Yes. Instantaneous Responses can be quite a bit more difficult to achieve. I've generally come within 15 minutes of the desired time at which I wish a post in Your Time to be received.

 

There are other means of accomplishing such a task, In certain cases, My presence is not required in order to activate a predefined message posting to the past.

 

It should also be noted that each Posting may be considered a jumble of Quantum Chaos, That is to say, The messages posted in regards to myself in your timeline, create a rippling effect which is perceived in my time. New Queries must be made to Internet Archives after each Time Quake is detected. This is how I have received your message this evening.

 

Good Days..

 

 

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Yes- I too have been to Jordan, but this does not explain away everything else I posted and suggested and all we have to go on for you is a falsifiable report on Ratzinger. In layman's terms, what else you got, what else can you tell us, what else can you predict?

As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

 

A Soldiers Most

 

Hail War As

 

A Renaissance Pi Melts

 

A Sidearm Dwelt

 

A Cosmic Clone Pole

 

Jihad Had Mom Due A Man

 

A Quarks Humble Tree

 

Manilla Curse

 

Foretells Kiwi Smirks

 

Demons Former Jig Jug

 

A Liberal Disses One

 

Toss My Foes A Reference

 

Heaters High Storm

 

It is for You to Understand and Figure Out.

 

 

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Sixteen elapsed minutes between by prior post and yours then eight minutes, I guess the next response will come in four minutes- is that how quantum tunneling works?

 

I gotta be honest with you- I don't have the time or paitence to decipher whatever that is supposed to be, but from the looks of it, it's nothing more than "the Nostradamus effect"- making vague and unreferenced predictions to non-events that can be construed as a prediction but only after the events have come to pass. This is tantamount to meaningless information- I already outlined a way to bypass timequakes to you.

 

I can do this too. See:

 

Lo, an African-American-American leader? Nay, a woman?

 

War costs more than the cost of war

 

Popes come and go but Paul's message remains.

 

Is it getting hot out there?

 

America: land of the Americas.

 

Turkey in the roost? Certainly not!

 

Why didn't I think of that? Now I have to go buy one.

 

Meet your meat.

 

I bet you in 20 years this will read like Nostradamus.

 

PS- when you reply to this message in four minutes, can you please make your reply longer than something that takes four minutes to write? Thanks.

 

 

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So apart from a Ratzinger reference on 4/19/05 for a pope that was announced on the same day, we have no tangable information to go on here- and as far as that goes, Time Magazine leaked that info over three months before then. Furthermore, I was there (we were all there) and there was a flurry of reports about Ratzinger becoming the next pope- we all remember John Paul II took very ill those last few months and they were talking about the pope retiring and a new pope getting elected etc... this is not new news, this is certainly not proof of information over time.

Correct. The Ratzinger prediction could arguably have just been a good guess, and is not proof in and of itself. For more compelling evidence, I recommend you go back and see where Zeshua predicted the exact date of the Pope's death a whole month in advance.

 

If that doesn't get your attention, I don't know what will.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Zeshua posted :

 

As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

 

A Soldiers Most

 

Hail War As

 

A Renaissance Pi Melts

 

A Sidearm Dwelt

 

A Cosmic Clone Pole

 

Jihad Had Mom Due A Man

 

A Quarks Humble Tree

 

Manilla Curse

 

Foretells Kiwi Smirks

 

Demons Former Jig Jug

 

A Liberal Disses One

 

Toss My Foes A Reference

 

Heaters High Storm

 

It is for You to Understand and Figure Out.

Well well well. From Zeshua's opening phrase here, "As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied", it seems that this recent poem is related to the previous set of multiple predictions posted here on 4/14/2005:

 

The Following are all events that will shortly come to pass. In your immediate futures. I will not give dates for these events, and although these may seem rather generic statements I assure you they are founded in reality based on fact. In the small chance that the posting of this information changes the outcome of the events, I see no way in which the events depicted would unfold "That much" differently than in my history.

 

- A Pre-emptive strike occurs between two war bound countries in Europe/Asia.

 

- 2 Federal buildings are completely destroyed.

 

- A Sudden outbreak of influenza.

 

- The Patriot Act ends up in court, its powers used to spy on civilians "For their own good"

 

- A 3rd becomes next.

 

- A Massive Financial meltdown that puts the Euro as the preferred Global Currency. Repercussions abound to the almighty US Dollar.

 

- A New form of computer virus programmed by a small team of individuals sweeps the globe within 24 hours.

 

- The Telluride Occurrence

It seems to me that what Zeshua has just told us today is that these two sets of predictions are both referencing the same events.

 

- Peter

 

 

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I'd previously speculated that Zeshua's "poem" could be broken down into eight specific predictions :

 

That list is :

 

1. A Soldiers Most Hail War As A Renaissance Pi Melts A Sidearm Dwelt

 

2. A Cosmic Clone Pole

 

3. Jihad Had Mom Due A Man

 

4. A Quarks Humble Tree

 

5. Manilla Curse Foretells Kiwi Smirks

 

6. Demons Former Jig Jug

 

7.A Liberal Disses One

 

8. Toss My Foes A Reference : Heaters High Storm

 

Now it seems that eight-point analysis may have been correct, because the poem is presented as a parallel to the eight-point prediction given in April 2005.

 

Regarding the line "Jihad had mom due a man", I am wondering if it is significant that Israel's intelligence service is named "Aman"? Or is it significant that the capital of Jordan is named Amman?

 

- Peter

 

 

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In February 2005 John Paul II was taken to the Gemelli hospital with inflammation and spasm of the larynx, the result of influenza. Though later released from the hospital, he was taken back after a few days because of difficulty breathing. A tracheotomy was performed, which improved the Pope's breathing but limited his speaking abilities, to his visible frustration. In March 2005, speculation was high that the Pope was near death; this was confirmed by the Vatican a few days before John Paul II died.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II

 

>>what happens if the Pope Dies?<<

 

Zeshua 3/3/05

 

 

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On March 3rd, 2005, Zeshua posted :

 

"what happens if the Pope Dies? 03/04/05"

 

at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=31267&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Zeshua&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=31267&Search=true#Post31267

 

And on the 3rd of April, 2005 (3/4/05), John Paul II DID die. The accurate date was confirmed by an Australian poster here at TTI :

 

Well, where I come from he was on the money. He got it right. The 3rd of April - 03/04/05.

 

Right on Zeshua ! "Now I will not be so quick to call you a hoax" "A Vatican statement said the Pontiff died at 9.37 pm (0537 AEST Sunday) in his private apartment."

So, yes, Zeshua accurately predicted the Pope's death, down to the very day, over a month in advance!

 

- Peter

 

 

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Asking "what happens if the Pope dies" does not mean "the Pope will die tomorrow".

 

Furthermore, saying "what happens if the Pope dies" infers that something will happen after the pope dies- you know, like "what happens in Pearl Harbor when they don't pay attention to the radar on a Sunday morning". No Earth-shattering events happened after the Pope died, to a large degree the world was relieved- the eyes of the world were on these events and we all knew he was suffering and was going to become a saint.

 

Also- Zeshua did not say "the Pope is going to die in a month", she simply said the Pope will die, meaning "soon". No duh.

 

Finally, if someone is posting from 20 years in the future, this is an awfully vague way to prove it- this would be like me sending a message to 1986 that said "the Earth will get hotter in the future" instead of "a space shuttle will blow up later this year".

 

My point is that if this is the only thing we have to go on, it is a very slim lead. Now I am not debunking Zeshua- in fact I like the story and believe it can really happen. However, in this case I need more. Zeshua's posting right after I did earlier today is more impressive to me (considering how infrequently she posts), but then again she kinda debunked herself with the whole "I've generally come within 15 minutes of the desired time" shpeel.

 

I hope I don't come off as a stickler or a pain in the butt but as the saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

 

 

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Pope to Appear on Sunday, Aide Will Read Blessing

 

Reuters (3/4/05: ABC)

 

ROME - Pope John Paul will appear at his hospital window on Sunday and greet the faithful, but will almost certainly not speak, his spokesman said on Friday. Instead, as happened last weekend, an aide at the nearby Vatican will preside over the regular Sunday Angelus blessing.

 

http://www.religionheadlines.org/heads_050304.php

 

This was the same day as Zeshua's prediction. This was also the last time John Paul II was seen in public.

 

 

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I feel you may be missing my point.

 

On March 3rd, 2005, Zeshua started a new thread titled "What Happens If" at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=31267&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Zeshua&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=31267&Search=true#Post31267

 

At the very end of that first post in that new thread, Zeshua posted

 

the question "what happens if the Pope Dies?", and then Zeshua left

 

two lines blank, and then at the next line, the very last line of

 

the post, Zeshua posted an important date : 03/04/05, which

 

turned out to be the exact date the Pope DID die.

 

- Peter

 

 

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>>Zeshua posted an important date : 03/04/05, which turned out to be the exact date the Pope DID die.<<

 

But the Pope died April 2nd, not March 4th. Backing up a step, Zeshua posted on 3/3/05 and at the bottom wrote 3/4/05. A whole month later, the pope died after a long and public illness. These are dots I can't connect.

 

 

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>>Zeshua posted an important date : 03/04/05, which turned out to be the exact date

 

the Pope DID die.<<

 

> But the Pope died April 2nd, not March 4th. Backing up a step,

 

> Zeshua posted on 3/3/05 and at the bottom wrote 3/4/05.

 

> A whole month later, the pope died after a long and public illness.

 

> These are dots I can't connect.

 

At the exact moment the Pope died, it WAS April 3rd 2005 at 5:37 AM in Australia,

 

a date which both Europe and Australia (and Zeshua) write as 03/04/05.

 

It was also April 3rd in Indonesia, Japan, China, Siberia, Malaysia, India, New Zealand,

 

Pakistan, Vietnam, Mongloia, Korea, Kazakhstan, Thailand, Nepal, and Fiji.

 

America writes that date differently than most of the rest of the world does,

 

as 04/03/05, because it uses a different way to write dates. America writes

 

dates as MM/DD/YY, while much of the rest of the world write them as DD/MM/YY.

 

Zeshua, of course, is supposed to be writing to us from England, and so very understandably

 

used the European way of writing the date.

 

Now, if I am reading this map I found online that has all the world's time zones

 

laid out, it looks to me that pretty much a third of the world's geography (and a half

 

of the world's population) was already legitimately in the day of Sunday, April 3rd,

 

2005. And so, from their perspective, Zeshua would have precisely nailed the prediction

 

to the exact day.

 

I call that a hit, and a very impressive one at that.

 

- Peter

 

 

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I live downunder and that date was correct for us. We do our date dd/mm/yy (European style) as opposed to mm/dd/yy how you guys do it. She did mention that she was operating her experiment from Europe so that date format is correct in accordance to her claims.

 

Also, seeing that we are a day ahead of you guy's (international date line) and I was also directly communicating with Zeshua at the time, I have to say that from my point of view at least, she was on the money with that prediction.

 

 

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This is not Zeshua's only correct prediction, either. Far from it.

 

There now exists a whole list of items that together seems to constitute

 

rather substantial evidence that Zeshua possesses knowledge of the future.

 

That is not to say that it proves Zeshua is a time-traveler or time-communicator

 

or whatever, but it at least demonstrates that Zeshua is in possession of

 

some sort of "supernatural" knowledge.

 

1. Zeshua correctly predicted a month in advance that Terri Shiavo and

 

Pope John Paul II would both soon die.

 

2. Zeshua correctly predicted that Terri Sciavo's feeding tube would not be replaced.

 

3. Zeshua corrected predicted that the Terri Schiavo thing would not escalate to

 

violence in the streets, which at one point was a matter very much in doubt.

 

4. Zeshua correctly predicted a month in advance that Terri would go first and

 

the Pope would follow shortly.

 

5. Zeshua correctly predicted the actual date of the Pope's death a full month in advance.

 

6. Zeshua correctly declared Ratzinger the winner of the Papal vote an hour before

 

the result was announced.

 

7. Zeshua correctly posted the name "Benedict16" an hour or so prior to the announcement

 

of the new Pope's chosen name.

 

8. Zeshua's correctly predicted in May 2005 that the next major event in the USA would

 

be a crisis that came from the sky (and then Hurricane Katrina arrived).

 

9. In 2005, Zeshua correctly predicted the coming of a new science that would constitute

 

a revolution at the atomic scale which would answer questions of a universal nature,

 

and in 2006 just such a new science was announced in the press. And within mere hours

 

of the moment when that new science was announced, Zeshua posted her own post with the

 

same title the newspaper story had.

 

And while this is not a fulfilled prediction, it is certainly also worth mentioning that

 

multiple people who contacted Zeshua privately have subsequently publically reported

 

experiencing the same sort of 'altervus' reported during the John Titor period. For more

 

info on those incidents, go to items # 65 and # 68 in the thread at http://www.conspiracycafe.net/board_forum/index.php?showtopic=1944&st=60

 

And in addition to this list, it is my understanding that multiple people who have elicited

 

private correspondence from Zeshua over the last 18 months maintain that private (and sometimes

 

personal) predictions have been received which also came true.

 

Zeshua has many more public predictions still to unfold. Some are very unpleasant. Zeshua

 

basically declares that John Titor's version of our future history is indeed correct, at least

 

as far as the "big picture" is concerned.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Here are all of Zeshua's allusions to historical events in our near future:

 

*None of you, know what's Coming for you. There is a war looming, on the horizon, just as John Said. There Will be Waco type events, there will be a continuation of what you now only sense as small vibrations. 2/28/05

 

*Waco type events, [Titor] should have just come right out and said 9/11 type events. You will all be surprised when the veil comes down and you realize that you aren't 100% free anymore. 2/28/05

 

The Civil War, its not what you think it will be, its not started by anything you might think. 2/28/05

 

*Lets just say, it was one of those "I know where I was on that day, even though it was no big deal." The Civil War, which is more of a Global Civil War, is the same all over the globe. It is truly a David versus Goliath scenario and this is one thing JT never said, this is a worldwide phenomenon. It just happens to be Focused on the United States. You will feel as though you've just been through a movie in which the last 5 minutes changed the entire first 2 hours of the movie, the Twist, as it were, which Cannot be guessed (we are sure, you have Tried, every single time), and cannot be revealed, is very "Unexpected". Once the initial panic is over, the confusion sets in, this is the time Big Brother steps in and you no longer have that cushy 100% freedom you treasure so Dearly. Well, get Used to it. 2/28/05

 

*In your time, you no doubt feel it. You must feel the world becoming unglued, frustrated, confused, things going out of control. In 2005 we're in the middle of a war and you all acted like nothing was the matter. Life as normal. We, that is, You and I, must work together. 3/3/05

 

*In 2005 we are in the middle of a War right now, is that not an accurate statement? As nobody has answered my previous question, It hardly seems justified to propose a new one. The War the U.S. is currently involved in, what makes you think the end is in sight or those troops are coming home? 3/8/05

 

*This event, which I have stated as Not being the Yellowstone Eruption which is talked about for several years, is not so much catastrophic as it is cataclysmic. The catalyst is in place, the powers that be are warming up. With the albeit slow decline of Western Civilizations' most valued currency, many countries hang in the balance, words like "Recession" and "Inflation" take on a whole new meaning. It is truly a Global Economy. This "Unexpected" occurrence I speak of, will take everyone by surprise. I would be unlikely to ever elaborate on this, and although it has been guessed at many many times, nobody is ever even close. When it happens, and it will, your lives will be indelibly altered and permanently changed as mine has now become. I would also like to state, for the record, this is not the end of the world, life goes on, we are still surviving and getting by. Patience and Cautiousness are now the words of the moment. 3/8/05

 

*The next major event for the United States in your upcoming time is a Crisis, look to the skies and you might find the answer you seek. As far as who dies, I have already answered this. 3/8/05

 

*Marshall Law is not legally declared in the US. Elections have continued to take place, although some have been sped up to a point many of us thought was almost ludicrous. In some cases an individual post had been filled by means of special elections within less than 2 months. 3/8/05

 

*"Is the United States (as I know it, obviously) still a single country?" I cannot answer this question. 4/14/05

 

- A Pre-emptive strike occurs between two war bound countries in Europe/Asia.

 

- 2 Federal buildings are completely destroyed.

 

- A Sudden outbreak of influenza.

 

- The Patriot Act ends up in court, its powers used to spy on civilians "For their own good"

 

- A 3rd becomes next.

 

- A Massive Financial meltdown that puts the Euro as the preferred Global Currency. Repercussions abound to the almighty US Dollar.

 

- A New form of computer virus programmed by a small team of individuals sweeps the globe within 24 hours.

 

- The Telluride Occurrence 4/14/05

 

Here is one paragraph summing up all of these statements:

 

This will be a sudden, large and unexpectected worldwide change that no one will (or can possibly see) see coming. The catalyst will be totally unexpected and will be exacerbated by more 9/11-type events. In response to this event, "Big Brother" will step in and "when the veil comes down" we'll all realize we're not 100% free anymore and we should get used to it- the change will be permanent. These events impact the entire Earth but are focused in the United States- particularly our currency. The seeds of this future event are already in play ("in your time you no doubt feel it") and these events will only get worse with time. These present-day events may stem from our current war on Terrorism- a war that will not end. These current events will lead to a catastrophe in the future and affect many nations (many "powers that be"), but it's not the end of the world. These events will give a new meaning to the words recession and inflation and affect the entire world and the US dollar will take a hit as a result. In the US, Marshall Law is not declared, but some elections will be sped up by as little as two months and when done, the US may not be one nation anymore.

 

Analysis:

 

The most logical thing I can make out of this is a major depression is about to hit the USA. This is caused by our war on terrorism- our spending countless billions to fight this war all while not raising taxes or tightening our belts- we're simply running our Federal coffers empty. The US dollar will lose much of its value as a natural result (simple economics). Part of this is because America no longer makes anything anymore (our trade deficit) and part of this is because of the structure of our Federal Reserve debt notes (our Federal debt). The US dollar will get weaker and weaker over time (and the rest of the world- particularly China- will get stronger) and one day we won't be the largest consumer of products (other countries will simply sell their goods elsewhere). This will lead to a major change- a major tightening of the belts on America. This will be the end of the 99 cent hamburger and the dollar store; the end of the mallifying of America. Additionally, money in the future will be black (oil) based and the US will find itself with empty gas tanks- mostly because of our war against all the oil-producing countries in the world will have isolated us from them.

 

There will be a major event which brings this all on- another Black Tuesday... another stock market crash. Within a week, hundreds of thousands of Americans will be out of a job. People will scramble to the banks and many will lose their life savings. The Fed institutes changes (to the FDIC) and rationing of staple items will happen again en masse (soup lines). There will be many WACO-type events- many small communities in the south and in the west... many calls to arms against the system. In response, the Federal government will change laws to control its people even more- Big Brother. Many Americans (such as Zeshua's parents) will send their kids abroad to try and get a new start and America will remain in this depression for decades with no forseeable way out.

 

Of course by this point in time it will be too late to change it- historically the only way out of a depression is with a war (through the industry (jobs) from war as well as the decrease in population (casualties)), but this is the 21st century and any war translates to a nuclear war (and not a good option). And since America actively sought to repress any new technologies (alternate energy), we find ourselves unable to keep the lights on in 2038.

 

Zeshua, an American college student studying at a university in England in 2038- presumably majoring in computers. She is also a fan of the (by then very old) TTI website and used his 2038 computers to send messages back in time to 2005, 2006 and 2009 (but no later because presumably these events will kick into high gear by then). Although it's possible to send messages back in time, there is also some sort of "international time police" that monitors the entire Earth for such transmissions, then quickly zeroes in on those people and (does something bad to them). As such, a message sent from 2038 England to 2005 America (where the TTI website is located) will send these time cops after them.

 

The reason we have this "international time cop force" is because of timeslips- by sending messages back in time you alter the past. These time cops in 2038 can somehow monitor these time slips (although they don't acknowledge they exist) and try and stop them for obvious reasons.

 

Zeshua decided to post on the TTI site because she (and her friends) are big fans of the TTI site and Titor. As proof of all of this, she posted on the last day the world saw the ailing Pope in Rome that he would die soon. Zeshua realizes that if she came right out and said what will happen in the future, the time cops will catch her. In the past (in alternate universe that she later fixed), she posted winning Powerball numbers, but the resulting time slip ruined the whole thing. She somehow "unposted" those messages and the time cops could never find her. This time, she is sending cryptic messages of events that will happen in our future in such a way that they don't cause a timeslip.

 

 

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As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

Well, that certainly sounds to me like Zeshua is saying that this list of predicted

 

events was mentioned "previously", and so I went to the other list of predicted events

 

we received from Zeshua on 4/14/05, but after mulling it over for a weekend, I have to

 

admit I can't see any apparent connections between this new list and that old one.

 

Maybe there is a connection and we just can't see it yet, or maybe that old list is

 

not what Zeshua was alluding to after all.

 

It should also be noted that each Posting may be considered a jumble of Quantum Chaos

We should "note" this? As in "pay special attention to it"? I'm wondering now if the

 

above contains more meaning for us than it originally seemed to. Zeshua's recent "poem"

 

posting does seem to fit the description "a jumble of chaos", and so maybe that's a clue

 

in how we should unravel it?

 

It is for You to Understand and Figure Out.

I do "note" the odd and seemingly backwards arrangement of the phrase "understand and

 

figure out". Usually we figure something out, and THEN we understand it. But Zeshua

 

indicates here that we need to understand something [else] FIRST, and only then will

 

we be able to figure out the poem.

 

You think?

 

- Peter

 

 

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