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Successful predictions are only useful for two reasons. Either the prediction is allowed to be used

 

in advance to prepare for coming developments, or the prediction is used after the fact to

 

demonstrate the possession of a unique source of knowledge, i.e., to buttress claims of

 

credibility.

 

We are all painfully aware here that Zeshua did not choose to use her alleged knowledge of

 

our future to alleviate or prevent any of the suffering or 1500+ deaths from Hurricane Katrina,

 

nor the 1000+ deaths in the Philippines from Typhoon Durian, nor the 6,000 deaths from the May

 

27th Indonesian earthquake, nor all those who died during the July-August Israel/Lebanon war,

 

nor the 672 deaths from Tropical Storm Bilis, nor the 458 deaths from Typhoon Saomai, nor the

 

200 deaths from Typhoon Xangsane.

 

If Zeshua is a time communicator as she claims, she is apparently either not interested in or

 

not capable of altering/delaying/deflecting the deaths of any of those people.

 

Nor was she apparently interested in using advance knowledge of any of those major events in

 

any sort of proof of her claims.

 

She says that she needs to avoid doing anything to tip the scales of popular opinion about her

 

firmly into the 'believers' category. Well, it seems to me that it wouldn't take too damn many

 

correct predictions to cross that threshold. She's got the Pope JPII stuff going for her, which

 

is pretty solid, and probably no more than one or two more definite, irrefutable 'hits' is all

 

it would take t5o create a stampede of believers into the 'Zeshua' camp.

 

If so, then that suggests that we won't get ANY more predictions from Zeshua that are as

 

definite and irrefutable hits as the Pope JPII stuff.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Dear Peter,

 

"8. Zeshua's correctly predicted in May 2005 that the next major event in the USA would

 

be a crisis that came from the sky (and then Hurricane Katrina arrived)."

 

Now, don't you think you have (more than once) stretched this "prediction" a bit further than a reasonable person would? Hurricanes don't come from the sky. They come from the ocean. All the proof you need of this is to ask yourself what happens when a hurricane moves over land? It dissipates and dies. That's because a hurrican is fueled by the warm ocean water. So for you to stretch Zeshua's "prediction" about something coming from the sky to include a hurricane is not in congruence with a scientific interpretation.

 

But I am not done yet. The major damage and devasation from Hurricane Katrina was NOT due to wind damage. Clearly it was due to the breaching of the levees and the flooding that resulted. Once again, we see that Zeshua missed the target, for the damage was not "from the sky" but rather "from the ocean".

 

But I am more interested in why you are acting like such a Zeshua cheerleader? If I read your website correctly, I get the feeling you are a Christian Fundamentalist who believes that all sorts of terrible things MUST happen before the rapture. Am I correct? So in being such a cheerleader for Zeshua (and stretching his/her "predictions" about as far as you can) are you serving some selfish interests here?

 

Chuckster

 

 

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Peter Novak writes:

 

"I went to the other list of predicted events we received from Zeshua on 4/14/05, but after mulling it over for a weekend, I have to admit I can't see any apparent connections between this new list and that old one."

 

The only one I can see- and it's a vague one- is this:

 

"You will all be surprised when the veil comes down and you realize that you aren't 100% free anymore." 2/28/05

 

"Jihad Had Mom Due A Man" 11/15/06

 

Conjecture:

 

"Jihad had mom due a man" could mean an important person got his due (was assasinated) and the person who did it was a "Jihad woman"... someone who would wear a veil. And when the veil comes down (when it happens; when the repercussions of this event come to pass), we'll realize we're not 100% free anymore.

 

 

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>>But I am more interested in why you are acting like such a Zeshua cheerleader? If I read your website correctly, I get the feeling you are a Christian Fundamentalist who believes that all sorts of terrible things MUST happen before the rapture. Am I correct? So in being such a cheerleader for Zeshua (and stretching his/her "predictions" about as far as you can) are you serving some selfish interests here?<<

 

There is no basis for this allegation and it's borderline insulting- just because a guy believes in his own spirituality doesn't mean he has a skewed view of the world- if this were the case, the world would be full of wackos. And since the world IS full of wackos, there is no foundation to single this one out. He is allowed his opinion and to date, everything Zeshua has said can be construed to be true, although it is a stretch to do so. My posting on this topic is my search for more information from Zeshua- to allow her to bunk or debunk herself (and to date, she ain't doing too good a job of it) and besides- the purpose of this website is to talk about time travel, not to assasinate everyone who posts here. This is a forum for people to go a step beyond the normal into something new and in that regard, Peter Novak's opinion is certainly welcome here IMO.

 

 

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Dear Peter,

 

"It is for You to Understand and Figure Out."

 

Well, if I were to use your methods for "mapping" what Zeshua said to some arbitrary meaning, I think you are staring the most obvious one in the face:

 

Notice not only the order of "Understand" prior to "Figure Out". Notice the CapiToliZation used by Zesh.

 

UFO!

 

And perhaps Zesh was really referring to "from the sky" as being related to "UFO"? Could be! I mean, it makes at least as much sense as your interpretations. I think Zesh is really fortelling a massive invasion by UFOs. That's my story and I'm stickin to it.

 

 

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Ok, let's review.

 

On November 15th, 2006, Zeshua posts a mysterious 'poem' of 13 peculiar lines at TTI. in a new thread she entitles 'Blast From the Past'. On the same day, some scientist's work on time travel is covered in a newspaper story entitled 'Going for a Blast Into the Real Past', but we don't notice that connection here for four days, until November 19th. When we do, we all sorta say, 'Hmmm, wow, weird', and pretty much go on about our business. We talk about Zeshua in general for a bit, and get into a little bickering as is our general tendency, but mostly we don't figure anything out about the 'poem', nor do we seem to try very hard to do so. This goes on for awhile, and then Zeshua seems to get tired of our 'not getting it' and decides to give us a hint, so on December 2nd, in the 'You have your New Pope.... Congratulations' thread, she posts twice in one day.

 

In her first post that day, she writes 'Things are not always as they seem [...] There are other means of accomplishing such a task [...] it should also be noted that each Posting may be considered a jumble....'.

 

And in her second post that day, she re-posts the same mysterious 'poem', adding 'It is for You to Understand and Figure Out. '

 

Now, in retrospect, it seems fairly obvious that Zeshua's comments in that first post were not at all about what she seemed to be 'chatting' about, nor was her reappearance in the forum a random or uncalculated occurrence. She came back for a specific reason, to re-direct our attention towards the poem, and to give us a hint on how to solve it, since, from her point no doubt, we weren't looking like we were going to be figuring it out on our own anytime soon. But she hides her hint in the middle of her post, and we don't even notice it for days on end. How dense we must seem to her! [/color]

 

- Peter

 

 

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The opposite is happening, as I stated in another thread in the Time Travel Claims.

 

I only found one website that stated this as such.

 

I will not repeat it.

 

I think it is Falcon's thread or whatever the name is, and it was just yesterday or something like that about 12-8-06.

 

You see, people for some reason think only one way and that Armageddon is near. To me, it is not.

 

It is a kind of delusion going on with those type of people. The other ones across the sea also know probably the Prophecy, and thus may be trying to create the Prophecy in a sense, in case they are not, but then why state that the radicals want to attack the Vatican?

 

Simply put, they all are of one type of mind then, at least to me. Better to have your own mind, but again, what can really be said about a type of Fate?

 

Is it Fate, or is it just ill thinking and will in the end?

 

Whatever it is, it is set in motion by those who attempt to make it happen by their Acts. Again, the religions know about Armageddon, and those radicals are attempting to tell God what to do.

 

 

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In other words, why does the Pope claim that he wants to bring together the religions even at the cost perhaps of his own life, because those radicals still will not like that and have claimed in the News that they wish to attack the Vatican?

 

If the Pope already knows this and probably he should, but who can say for sure, then why does he think it is so important to do this at this time?

 

The Bishops perhaps screwed up the religion more than anyone else over the years, and yet the Pope is concerned that religions should get together?

 

Well, it all sounds as if they are not really listening to God at all which they are supposed to do in the first place or even Jesus but in the unconscious perhaps make the world do what they want and how they want.

 

This is why perhaps the website mentioned that the Devil is controlling this World in this time, so God can prove that he does exist.

 

Doesn't God judge in the end, and doesn't God forgive and doesn't God have compassion and goodness and any other virtue?

 

Then they decide they are going to proceed anyway?

 

I been here long enough to have worked with other people who think the same way, that it can not be proved and that they have the Right and Freedom to do this.

 

Perhaps, they are really claiming they have more Rights and Freedom then anyone or some others else?

 

This is false then according to logic and can not really be what God means perhaps.

 

Jumbled and Anagrams is exactly what it is then.

 

 

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don't you think you have (more than once) stretched this "prediction" a bit further than a reasonable person would? Hurricanes don't come from the sky. They come from the ocean. All the proof you need of this is to ask yourself what happens when a hurricane moves over land? It dissipates and dies. That's because a hurrican is fueled by the warm ocean water. So for you to stretch Zeshua's "prediction" about something coming from the sky to include a hurricane is not in congruence with a scientific interpretation.

Zeshua did not say that the next crisis would "come from the sky", but instead said that if we looked to the sky, we might see it coming. And that statement certainly fits a hurricane. You don't see a hurricane coming by looking underwater, but by examining the atmosphere. Her statement in April 2005 about our next Crisis was accurate. Someone had asked her what the next big thing to happen in America would be, and she replied :

 

The next major event for the United States in your upcoming time is a Crisis, look to the skies and you might find the answer you seek.

That reply was posted in April 2005. She was right -- our next major event WAS a crisis, and it could be seen in the skies. Yes, hurricanes arrive with some regularity in the US, but Hurricane Katrina was the single costliest US hurricane ever, and was one of the five deadliest in America's history. It was the 3rd strongest hurricane to make landfall in the US. It was a crisis of the first order, it could be seen in the skies, and it arrived four months after Zeshua predicted it.

 

- Peter

 

 

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Ratzinger Ratzinger what have ye done, Pope in the eyes of the new world come

So what did Zeshua have against Ratzinger? Perhaps this -- that he discounted the importance of the Marian apparitions at Fatima, Garabandal, and Medjugorje? see http://www.mgr.org/RatzOnFatima.html

 

What was Zeshua's "Twist"? Both her public and private statements about the Twist seem IMO to be consistent with the prophesied "Warning of Garabandal".

 

***

 

see also http://www.mgr.org/TheAntiChrist.html :

 

On May 28th, 2006, Joseph Ratzinger, also known as Benedict XVI, stated the following at the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau: (4)

 

"In a place like this, words fail. In the end, there can only be a dread silence, a silence which is a heartfelt cry to God -- Why, Lord, did you remain silent? How could you tolerate all this?"

 

"Where was God in those days? Why was he silent? How could he permit this endless slaughter, this triumph of evil?"

 

Had these questions been posed by anyone else besides a Roman Catholic - most specifically, by the Supreme Leader of the Roman Catholic Church Administration - they would have been reasonable. Ratzinger's quotations from Psalm 44 would have also been reasonable if used by anyone else - but NOT by the one who claims to be the Pope of the Roman Catholics, who calls himself the Successor of Peter, and who presumes to be "Christ on Earth".

 

How dare he blaspheme against God before the whole world, using as a backdrop the holocaust the Roman Church Administrators allowed?

 

Since 1846 (1) God has been trying to get the leaders of the Church He founded to heed Him, lest horrors upon horrors would befall humanity. Those whom Ratzinger claims to be his predecessors failed miserably. God then tried again, starting in 1917 in Fátima, and gave the Church Administrators (5) ample time (6) and awesome signs to prevent the preventable - World War II. Once again, God was ignored, (7) yet Ratzinger dares to ask "Where was God"? (8)

 

We shall tell him in His Holy Name. God was in the same place He will be when He allows the Passion, Crucifixion and Death of the Mystical Body of Christ, the Church. (9)

 

God, in the Person of the Father, placed man in charge of His Creation; God, in the Person of Jesus, came to explain why the world was not functioning in the manner He intended and to establish an organization that would assist His people in coming back to Him as the prodigal son did (10); God, in the Person of the Holy Spirit was sent to help us along the way.

 

Those who Ratzinger claims as his predecessors made a business of the Word of God (11) and have literally pushed mankind to the edge of the abyss. Thus, God, left with no other option, will allow the Passion, Crucifixion and Death of the Mystical Body of Christ to take place, so that it may then Resurrect and be Pure and Holy (9) as He intended it to be.

 

Ratzinger's blasphemous words constitute the last straw that God needed to fulfill the Pronouncement miguel de Portugal delivered (12) , in God's Holy Name, upon The Vatican at mid morning of December 31, 2000, while standing in St. Peter's Square.

 

May God have Mercy (13) on the innocent who, deceived by wolves dressed as sheep, (14) continue their march to the slaughterhouse. To them we say - Take refuge in the fundamentals of the Catholic Faith - it is not the Catholic Faith that is at fault (15) . It has been the Administrators of that Faith (16) who have become the representation of what John the Evangelist clearly warned us against in Chapter 17 of the Book of Revelations and now is being manifested, just as announced in Chapter 13 of said Book.

 

The Roman Catholic Church Administrators have been amply warned (17) . The words of Matthew 24: 15-22 say it all.

 

It is ironic that 66 years ago (18) , on May 28, after eighteen days of ceaseless German bombardment, Belgium surrendered unconditionally to the Nazis. This is the same Belgium which a united Europe chose years later as its headquarters, after the continent rose from the ruin that the malfesance of the Roman Catholic Church Administration had visited upon it. Should we be surprised that the Fathers of the European Union did not want to mention the Christian heritage of Europe in its Constitution? With the well-known record (19) of such heritage, they politely prefer to forget about it.

 

Who else but the antiChrist himself - the precursor of the falseChrist (20) - would dare to raise his voice with words of reproach to the True and Living God? It is just a matter of fulfilling pending prophecies (21) .

 

EPILOGUE

 

For those who like to look into number symbolism and to break ancient codes, we shall share the following codes as a matter of curiosity. Note well: the existence of these codes is NOT the reason why we now announce that Ratzinger has assumed the position of the antiChrist.

 

1. It appears that the number of the beast - the antiChrist - is 616 and not 666. It is not only in recently found documents that indicate that this is the case; in addition, the Codex Laudianus (an ancient manuscript kept in Oxford) indicates this. (22)

 

2. Ratzinger assumed the name Benedict XVI (16).

 

3. The first Benedict, Benedict I (1) occupied the Throne of Peter in the 6th Century (575-579) - 6th Century = 600. 600 + 16= 616

 

4. After Benedict XV (15), there have been six real Popes - Pius XI, Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I and John Paul II - then Ratzinger. That is: Six (6), and then Sixteen (16) = 616

 

5. The antiChrist is the promoter of the falseChrist and there is no question that Ratzinger is an Opus Dei man. He even made sure that the canonization of Escrivá would be considered an infallible papal act. Soon after his election, on September 14, 2005, he "enthroned", with an official blessing ceremony, Escriva's statue in the Vatican. (23)

 

6. Benedict - Benedictus means "Blessed One" - "Anointed One"

 

We are sure that there are many, many other symbolic connections but we do not need them to have the necessary confirmation:

 

The man who claims to be the representative of Christ on Earth -- the man who, for all practical purposes, the Faithful believe to be the "living Christ" -- has raised his voice and reproached Almighty God for what occurred due to the blatant disobedience of past popes. Anyone who may need more proof than this must then suffer what awaits them as the one last effort by God to have their Eyes and Ears (24) opened.

 

Who dares to raise his voice to God with reproaches if not satan himself?

 

Who is like unto God?

 

This is the battle cry of Michael the Archangel which we must, and will, echo until the End.

 

 

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Global 2000 Plan..

 

So what did Zeshua have against Ratzinger? Perhaps this -- that he discounted the importance of the Marian apparitions at Fatima, Garabandal, and Medjugorje? see http://www.mgr.org/RatzOnFatima.html

These Marian apparitions tell you about the coming poleshift and the safest places on planet Earth...to survive...

 

Then Nostradamus was Right!!! Again

 

These agenda is part of the "Plan" to depopulate the planet...

 

more at:

 

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/creator/global2000.htm

 

Quoted from the given site:

 

Depopulation Program

 

The Plan to Kill Three Billion Entities

 

and what you can do about it, if you don't like the idea

 

 

:eek: :eek: :eek:

 

 

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