The Key Of Time

[CAT]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time

 

Have you guys heard of the neurophone by Patrick Flanigan?

 

http://www.worldtrans.org/spir/neuro.html

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time

 

Thank-You for the link, CAT. It was fascinating to read, and it also supports the ideas that have "arisen" in this thread. The importance, as Rainman pointed out, of frequencies can not be understated.

 

This link demonstrates that through the manipulation of frequencies, many results can occur. I am convinced that time travel can be achieved by manipulation of frequencies of sound and light. I also am convinced that the old texts have this contained within their words.

 

Another point of interest was the bit regarding the array of radio towers in Alaska.

 

I mentioned sometime back that a friend used to mess with bats using a radio controller for his model airplane. The wavelengths of the controller confused the bats, so much so, they hardly could stay in the air.

 

I can imagine what the waves that are filling the atmosphere must be doing to this world's inhabitants. And who knows what effect this electronic zapping around in the air is doing to the magnetic fields surrounding our planet.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time

 

The fact that light and sound are two SELF-SIMILAR physical aspects of the universe that our human bodies are capable of perceiving is extremely important to understanding TIME.

Exactly. And I am certain that if we were to examine the other forms of "waves" of existence, I know that they would resemble the same as light and sound.

As you pointed out, light and sound are in different ranges of the spectrum of frequency. so it stands to reason, that so are the other waveforms. Electro-magnetism, gravity, etc...

 

From what Hermes claimed, or was told, is that Time is motionless. We only have consciousness to seperate events. This is supported by terminology you use, Point of View. Sometimes, time seems so sloooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Like being on the job and having a really boring task that is extremely tedious. The clock isnt changing its pace, but it sure seems to slow down...alot!

 

What we perceive... two hours had to have been used, when in fact only five minutes passed. And of course, we have the visa versa, when we are having fun and the time just flows like a waterfall in the springtime.

 

Obviously, our consciousness is passing from one event to another with its own sense of time. The clock on the wall doesnt mean a thing.

 

The question becomes...what type of dynamics are taking place within the electrical/chemical machinery of the brain? What frequencies are being emitted as the consciousness passes from one event to the next?

 

And to bring this back to the waveforms...we both know of the cliches used over and over again in many esoteric disciplines. What is below, is like that which is above. That which is small, is like that which is big. As a result I wouldnt be suprised in the least if our existence itself is "reflected" within the range of frequencies ( waveforms ), as is all of creation.

 

As technology advances, we discover that the spectrum is wider, larger than previously thought...so what impact does this concept have on time travel, eh?

 

Another concept to consider...if you stepped into another dimension, exactly the same as ours, but a mirror image...and you happen to be in the mountains/ or any remote location..without any landmarks, you would never know it was a mirror image.

 

Regarding Time, how do we know what the rate of Time is ? We don't! Only by a collective agreement, a collessence of consciousness, have we, mankind, agreed on what the flow of Time is. We manufactured a flow, but it hardly resembles the actual passing of events from an individuals Point of View.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

Alot is being said about Ezekiels Wheel and I dont know if anyone here ever read these biblical passages. Considering the contents of this thread, I am posting one version/translation of these verses.

 

The tablet of Hermes is much easier to make connections, when trading out words for more modern ones. Darby's post regarding the origins of the Tablet seem to be correct. The point of view of the author is evident in the writings. If the tablet of Hermes was written by someone ( The Dr. Dorean ) who had some ideas of physics, then the "clues" of this knowledge of his era would be evident.

 

Now, the author of Ezekiel has a much different point of view from a completely different era. This persons knowledge of physics would be reflected in his text. This becomes apparent and I challenge our great thinkers to see how they can translate what Ezekiel saw with modern terminology...or removing the theological view point, and inserting a scientific view point.

 

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1. Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year in the fourth [month] on the fifth day of the month, as I was in the midst of the exile by the river Chebar-the heavens opened up, and I saw visions of God.

 

2. "On the fifth of the month"-that is the fifth year of King Jehoiachin's exile.

 

3. The word of the Lord was [revealed] to Ezekiel the son of Buzi, the priest, in the land of the Chaldeans, by the river Chebar, and the hand of the Lord came upon him there.

 

4. And I saw, and behold, a tempest was coming from the north, a huge cloud and a flaming fire with a brightness around it; and from its midst, it was like the color of the chashmal from the midst of the fire.

 

5. And from its midst was the likeness of four living beings, and this is their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

 

6. And [each] one had four faces, and [each] one had four wings.

 

7. And their legs were straight legs, and the soles of their feet were like a round foot, and they sparkled like the color of burnished copper.

 

8. And human hands were beneath their wings on their four sides, and their faces and their wings were [the same] to all four of them.

 

9. Their wings joined one to the other; they did not turn when they walked; each one would go toward the direction of his face.

 

10. And the likeness of their faces was the face of a man, and the face of a lion was on their right, to the four of them, and the face of an ox to their left, to the four of them, and the face of an eagle [was] to the four of them.

 

11. And so were their faces. And their wings were extended upward; each one had two wings joined to each other, and two covering their bodies.

 

12. Now each one would go toward the direction of his face; wherever would be the will to go, they would go; they did not turn as they walked.

 

13. And the likeness of the living beings; their appearance was like fiery coals, burning like the appearance of firebrands; it was going among the living beings; and there was a brightness to the fire and from the fire came forth lightning.

 

14. And the living beings would run and return, like the appearance of the sparks.

 

15. And I saw the living beings, and behold, one wheel [was] on the ground beside the living beings for its four faces.

 

16. The appearance of the wheels and their work was like the appearance of crystal, and the four of them had one likeness, and their appearance and their workings were as a wheel would be within a wheel.

 

17. When they went, they went toward their four sides; they did not turn when they went.

 

18. And they had backs, and they were very high, and they were dreadful, and their eyebrows were full of eyes round about-[so it was] to the four of them.

 

19. And when the living beings would go, the wheels would go beside them; and when the living beings would lift themselves off the ground, the wheels would lift themselves.

 

20. Wherever there was the will to go, they would go; there was the will to go, and the wheels would lift themselves correspondingly to them, for the will of the living being was in the wheels.

 

21. When they [the living beings] would go, they [the wheels] would go, and when they would stand, they would stand, and when they would lift themselves up from the ground, the wheels would lift themselves correspondingly to them, for the will of the living being was in the wheels.

 

22. And there was a likeness over the heads of the living beings, of an expanse like the color of the severe frost extended over their heads above.

 

23. And beneath the expanse, their wings were straight, one [pointed] toward the other; this one had two that covered, to here, and that one had two that covered, to here, their bodies.

 

24. And I heard the sound of their wings, like the sound of many waters like the voice of the Almighty-when they went; the sound of stirring, like the sound of a camp; when they would stand, they would let down their wings.

 

25. And there was a voice above the expanse that was over their heads; when they stood still, they would let down their wings.

 

26. And above the expanse that was over their heads, like the appearance of a sapphire stone, was the likeness of a throne, and on the likeness of the throne, was a likeness like the appearance of a man upon it above.

 

27. And I saw like the color of chashmal like the appearance of fire within it round about, from the appearance of his loins and above; and from the appearance of his loins and below, I saw [a thing] like the appearance of fire, and there was a brightness round about it.

 

28. Like the appearance of the rainbow that is in the cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness round about; that was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord, and when I saw, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice speaking.

 

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Rainman...notive the descriptions of colors...perhaps these are clues to the specific frequencies we seek.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

I seperated some of the passages and highlighted specific words.

 

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And I saw, and behold, a tempest was coming from the north, a huge cloud and a flaming fire with a brightness around it ; and from its midst, it was like the color of the chashmal from the midst of the fire.

 

And their legs were straight legs, and the soles of their feet were like a round foot, and they sparkled like the color of burnished copper

 

And the likeness of the living beings; their appearance ( color ) was like fiery coals, burning like the appearance of firebrands ; it was going among the living beings; and there was a brightness to the fire and from the fire came forth lightning .

 

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like the appearance of crystal , and the four of them had one likeness, and their appearance and their workings were as a wheel would be within a wheel.

 

And there was a likeness over the heads of the living beings, of an expanse like the color of the severe frost extended over their heads above.

 

And above the expanse that was over their heads, like the appearance of a sapphire stone one, was the likeness of a throne, and on the likeness of the throne, was a likeness like the appearance of a man upon it above.

 

And I saw like the color of chashmal like the appearance of fire within it round about, from the appearance of his loins and above; and from the appearance of his loins and below, I saw [a thing] like the appearance of fire, and there was a brightness round about it.

 

Like the appearance of the rainbow that is in the cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness round about; that was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord, and when I saw, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice speaking.

 

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Notice that the author doesnt state that what he is witnessing in exact descriptions...He uses the word "LIKE" before many of his descriptions. I.e... like the appearance of..., like the color of..., the likeness of...etc...

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

1...And I saw, and behold, a tempest was coming from the north

 

A...And I saw a craft coming from the north

 

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2...a huge cloud

 

B...interaction of energy with surrounding moisture/atmospheric conditions

 

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3...a flaming fire with a brightness around it

 

C...The craft was surrounded by a light so bright it resembled a great fire ( what color ?) Propulsion system ? Field of energy surrounding the craft for several flight purposes ?

 

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4...and from its midst, it was like the color of the chashmal from the midst of the fire.

 

D...midst of what ? The middle of the craft ? or midst of the energy field surrounding the craft ?

 

....the color chashmal; braking system ? part of a directional propulsion system in operation ?

 

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O.K. ! I started it, can anyone take it from here, and translate the text into a more modern version using the knwoledge we have of physics. I know the craft would be more advanced than we have, but it seems to be using technology we "know" of...it is a question of application and design. or, how the energy and lights play a role in the crafts construct.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

This becomes more interesting the deeper I go into this quest. I have no idea what the color "Chashmal" was, so I searched for it on the web. The following explains what "Chashmal" is defined as ( from a Jewish Point of View )....

 

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Electrum

 

In Kabbalah, the fence symbolizes a field of light that protects one from falling -- both spiritually and physically. This light is called chashmal. (In modern Hebrew, chashmal means "electricity.") This word appears in the Bible only in the book of Ezekiel (chapter 1), in the vision of the Divine chariot -- the deepest and most mystical part of the Bible. The meaning of chashmal in Ezekiel is the light of electrum, a certain color of light related to electricity.

 

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Hmmmmm....? any thoughts or assistance on figuring what "color" the electricity was as described by Ezekiel? and what effect does this definition have with regards to the passage as written in The Bible?

 

In modern Hebrew, chashmal means "electricity." .... This bothers me... In MODERN hebrew, chashmal means....; then what did chashmal mean in ancient hebrew ?

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

Darn the copyright laws...

 

I reviewed several different versions of Ezekiel, and the only thing that came from the comparison between all of them was a clear pattern of making certain that they where different.

 

Not to necessarily to be an accurate translation, but to be just plain different. Frustrating to say the least.

 

I still find it fascinating that the description involves light, and different colors as well. The description of the craft seen by Ezekiel seems to fall into exactly what we are pondering in this thread.

 

 

[zerubbabel]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

Nice going OvrLord,

 

The clues are woven throughout what you are posting here and if we can eliminate the "noise", a very accurate picture emerges of how "creation" takes its "form".

 

I studied Ezekiel for years, and the passage you quote deals with the creation of matter. The "color" in question here is actually amber which is a polished spectrum metal that diffuses light and "hides" what is behind it. The author was actually doing a bisection for our benefit so that we could get a general ideal as to the "structure" of matter and its natural progressions as it "morphed" from one element to another. There are several other "metals" mentioned like burnished brass, etc. that take into consideration the "refining" involved.

 

Contrary to what most people understand, NOTHING travels in straight lines. Even the sine waves that you picture in this thread appear to travel in a straight line (albeit as waves), but in reality, they are traveling straight forward as a SPIRAL--much the same way electricity travels in a spiral around a wire and NOT through it. The movement of the sound, light, matter, etc.--gives it its shape and the "fixation" of time/space gives it its pathway. These are the strange shape and curves of time/space.

 

Now as to the conclusion reached in Hermes as to the upwardness and the rightward leaning of the light/sound, this is exactly how it is defined in the in the process of traveling from the Shekinah, through the Key arrangement of the ten "words" (via the 13 Sharia), through the special alignment of the breastplate of the High Priest (very special recipe) and then upward and rightward through the path outlined by the tower at the entrance of the temple.

 

It is no surprise to me that the Hermes text can be traced to Tibet, since the entire Mandela system that is ritualistically created and and destroyed is nothing more or less than the changing shape (depending upon your point of view within the tent) of the temple proper when it is being manipulated with sound and light. Take a closer look at the mandelas that are created with multicolored sand, and you will see the resemblance. I wonder if the Tibetans have a grasp as to what it is they are representing with the ritual of mandela building. I suspect that they lost this knowledge long ago, but have encapsulated it so as to NOT lose the information that represents something that only the last generation on earth would be able to figure out.

 

At some point in time, I will try to find my original notes on a word/by/word study of the wheel-within-a-wheel. There is definitly a key here, and it involves the 10th chapter of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation--all prophetic books that deal with last-day events involving symbols that are still not understood by the religious world-nor the scientific one. I am firmly of the belief that the Torah is, in actuality, a history book handed down to us from the far distant future, and forged in the far distant past--perhaps by timetravelers that were consumed with the need to pass this information over to us and yet very cognizant of the danger of the "wise" seeking out the knowledge for their own benefit. Just goes to show how difficult it is for "wise" people to react to the "new" paradigms without the predjudice of their belief systems and "set-in-stone knowledge".

 

Contrats, OvrLord. It appears you are zeroing in on the area by mostly intuition. I believe this is the only way it can be understood. Ironically, I do see people who are utilizing this intuitive knowledge--without realizing that they are calling upon a purely scientific principle and calling it "spiritual healing" or "casting out demons", or "astral projection" etc.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Frequency = The Key Of Time = Ezekiels Wheel

 

Zerubbabel;

 

Thank-you for your post. I was getting a tad frustrated with Ezekeil, and your explaination helps. I went so far as to bring out the Vulgate and try to translate that, since it is a word for word translation of original writings. However, since latin is not a language that I ever learned much about, it turned out to be more of a challenge than I planned.

 

I figured to do the same as the creator of the Vulgate, and just translate Ezekeil 1 into english,word for word.

 

But, alas, I couldnt even find Ezekiel in the Vulgate. The latin to english dictionary couldn't find the words used in The Vulgate.

 

Such are the ways of these things sometimes. I will figure it out, time permitting.

 

The Chapter of Ezekiel just seems to fit right in with the other writings mentioned in this thread.

 

I am firmly of the belief that the Torah is, in actuality, a history book handed down to us from the far distant future, and forged in the far distant past--perhaps by timetravelers that were consumed with the need to pass this information over to us and yet very cognizant of the danger of the "wise" seeking out the knowledge for their own benefit. Just goes to show how difficult it is for "wise" people to react to the "new" paradigms without the predjudice of their belief systems and "set-in-stone knowledge

Agreed. I feel the same, as with The Bible, it is a complete history of man, from beginning to end. Of course for specific reasons, I believe it originally was given to man by God. Unfortunately, many translations became political tools, as do many of the ancient texts.

I mention in my bio that I was involved in some esoteric disciplines, but left when it became apparent that the path I was on differed from theirs. However, the exposure to the disciplines and to get to know some of the "masters" of "The Arts" was a vast learning experience. There certainly is much, much more than what is perceived by "The Moderns" or "The Mundane" as "they" are referenced to within certain circles.

 

Contrary to what most people understand, NOTHING travels in straight lines. Even the sine waves that you picture in this thread appear to travel in a straight line (albeit as waves), but in reality, they are traveling straight forward as a SPIRAL--much the same way electricity travels in a spiral around a wire and NOT through it. The movement of the sound, light, matter, etc.--gives it its shape and the "fixation" of time/space gives it its pathway. These are the strange shape and curves of time/space.

Yes. The animation of the DNA configuration was the best I could find in the time I had while creating the post. This animation was intended to tie the similarities of all these "waves" together. If one looks at the multi-dimensional diagrams, and they were not identified as to what they represent, it would be difficult to tell one from the other, which says something about The Key Of Time, or the essences of creation.

The posts in this thread were done not only to present to the forum, but to keep a running record of the subject matter. The Key Of Time. Even with the slivers of what has been posted within this thread, the Key crys out that frequency has a major role in the manipulation of anything of creation.

 

This is what I am attempting to find, is the correct combination of frequencies that will result in the consciousness gaining the ability to understand time from a different Point Of View than the bubble of our current present. Keep in mind, I realize that it is merely a method of meditation. One particular set of frequencies may work for one person, but not the other. Like the fingernails scratching across the chalkboard. Most people cringe from the resulting vibration, but others are not effected what-so-ever.

 

The intent of this thread is also for "us" to build a foundation that will provide the chance to open up a gateway of progress towards our goals, as we tread upon our individual, yet, parallel paths within The Tree.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: The Key Of Time = Commentary

 

As one delves deeper into the anceint texts and other sources, what becomes striking are the many simularities amonst many different disciplines.

 

1. Resonance

 

2. Rhythm

 

3. Melody

 

4. Harmony

 

5. Pitch

 

6. Timbre

 

7. Toning

 

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Seven Holy Sacraments

 

1. Baptism

 

2. Confirmation

 

3. Communion

 

4. Penitence

 

5. Holy Orders

 

6. Matrimony

 

7. Unction with oil

 

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The Seven Gifts of the Holy Spirit

 

1. Wisdom

 

2. Understanding

 

3. Counsel

 

4. Fortitude

 

5. Knowledge

 

6. Piety

 

7. Fear of God

 

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The Seven Corporal Works of Mercy

 

1. To feed the hungry

 

2. To give drink to the thirsty

 

3. To clothes them without clothes

 

4. To harbor the harborless

 

5. To visit the sick

 

6. To visit the imprisoned

 

7. To bury the dead

 

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The Seven Spiritual Works of Mercy

 

1. To admonish sinners

 

2. To instruct the ignorant

 

3. To counsel the doubtful

 

4. To pray for the salvation of thy neighbor

 

5. To comfort the sorrowful

 

6. To bear wrongs patiently

 

7. To forgive all injuries

 

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The Seven Mortal Sins

 

1. Pride

 

2. Greed

 

3. Lewdness

 

4. Envy

 

5. Gluttony

 

6. Anger

 

7. Indolence ( Laziness )

 

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There are 3 principal colors ( or frequencies ) in the rainbow. Blue, Yellow, and Red.

 

"""The hottest stars of all are blue, Hotter stars, stars like our Sun, are yellow. The coolest stars are red."""

 

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For all the mathematical genius members, you may find this link interesting to review...

 

Color Rendering of Spectra

 

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And to throw in a tid bit for my spiritual friends...I had a dream this morning, I was standing in a vast field of green grass. The field was filled with an orchard style layout of trees. The trees were all bare. No leaves, no fruit, just as trees in the dead of winter.

 

This has a message for me and I think it reflects that the trees are planted, but have yet to bear fruit. The trees where in even rows and evenly spaced, but no leaves. And why was the grass green ? The field itself rich and fertile ?

 

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I think that the comparisons have been made. This thread has shown that there are many links and similarities in nature, the mystic and science. My question for my esteemed TTI collegues, is what direction should we take from this point. Any suggestions ?

 

If the dream was related to this thread, then it demonstrated that the grass is fertile, the trees all grown, but missing the fruit and leaves. How can we proceed to bring the trees to blossom?

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: The Key Of Time = The Key Of Dreams

 

The Key Of Time = The Key Of Dreams

 

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The subconscious is one place that we are not effected by any physical limitations. We can do anything, from flying, to visiting distant stars in a flash. But what do these dreams mean? How can we "translate" these dreams into something understandable by the logical mind ?

 

This question was answered long ago by one dream I had. My logical portion of my mind-set was aware of the dream, and was a passive witness to the story that was unfolding by my sub-conscious.

 

The dream....

 

In 1986, I was taking a nap around 1:00 or 2:00 p.m. . As I lay upon the bed, an earthquake began to rumble, and I was horrified, because I knew my girlfriend was extremely scared of earthquakes. So I jumped up out of the bed, ran to the bedrom door, opened it, ran around the house screaming her name...I had to find her...

 

I ran through the living room, around the furniture, and up to the front door. I unlocked it, opened up the screen door, and thank-God there she was, walking towards me with groceries in hand.

 

I was trying to yell to her...my mind couldnt find the word "earthquake" ... I was desperate to tell her about it...to warn her...

 

So I shouted out..." IT'S A MOVER ! IT'S A MOVER ! "

 

She looked at me and exclaimed, " What the hell are you talking about " ?

 

At this point I completely woke up. I literally was standing at the door screaming in her face. She had just returned from the market to have me open the front door and yell. " IT'S A MOVER " !

 

Needless to say, I was then classified as a nut by her.

 

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Regardless of her reaction, many Key elements were revealed from this experience. I had fallen asleep on the bed. This is where the earthquake took place, in my subconscious. However, I actually, physically was able to negotiate through the house, open closed and locked doors. I was mixing reality ( the awakestate ) with the subconscious ( its point of view ), and logic was watching the entire episode.

 

The most important factors were twofold.

 

1. The emotional content was what the subconscious was being motivated by, the emotions were the primary "garment" of this event.

 

2. The realization that the subconscious couldnt find the word earthquake. It chose to use the word Mover, instead.

 

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1(a)...The emotional content of the dream consisted of not being able to find the girl. The feelings of loss and pain were clear. Several months later, our relationship was exactly like an earthquake. I recognized the emotions of this dream matched exactly to what happenned in the dream. No variations, the experience of the relationship and the emotions attached were absolutely identical.

 

2(a)...The subconscious level of our mind is operating without the use of reason, or the logical use of our archives stored in our memory banks. Why ? I believe that the subconscious is the medium between our physical world and the upper soul. Not fetterred by the earthly limitations, the subconscious can access areas of existence that our reasoning mindset would lose itself within. There has to be a division between our Earthly Point of View and the esoteric. To mix the two together without this division would result in maddness.

 

Thus, we have a dream-state, where the logical mind can shrug off any unusual occurances, and remain functional in the world. Obviously, if you existed from a point-of-view in a perpetual dream state, you would not be able to function with the rest of mankind.

 

We know what the awake mind uses to communicate. What does the subconscious use to communicate to us when logic is dormant? Emotions.

 

The subconscious searches through the archives of our memory banks from an emotional point of view. No logic involved. This is why so many things in the dream seem out of place. It isnt the exact definition of the appearance of the things, but there emotional meaning. The message being communicated within your dream is entirely based or constructed from emotional material.

 

Instead of translating what you see by appearances alone, know what emotional attachments exist around what you see in your dream. Write the dream down, and link the objects to the emotions you felt in the dream, and search your memory as to similar feelings in YOUR past, with circumstances in your present. If you do this..map it out as described in this post, I know you will be in for a suprise.

 

The mind searches the archives for things as they are classified by emotional attachments. Thus you have strange trees and landscapes, the subconscious merely selects the items from how one felt about it.

 

So as my mind struggled to define the sensations of the earthquake, what the subconscious did was select the only thing that it could find from its point of view..." IT'S A MOVER " !

 

Think about that...the subconscious using the word "MOVER" in place of the word "earthquake". The answer to this is the Key To Dreams

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: The Key Of Time = Commentary

 

I had a dream this morning, I was standing in a vast field of green grass. The field was filled with an orchard style layout of trees. The trees were all bare. No leaves, no fruit, just as trees in the dead of winter.

I know what this dream meant. I wasnt primarily about this thread. To be completely honest, it has to do with my life. As I explore the writings that I quote from, it is impossible to read the words without reflection.

In pondering my life, the dream described exactly how I feel, now that I witnessed it in a visible format. My thinking skills, or the field of grass is fertile. Thick green grass in a rich soil. The orchard of bare trees...how many ideas have sprung forth from this fertile field and have yielded nothing.

 

The ideas of writing books, establishing corporate enterprises, creating works of art, building extravegant homes, counseling those in need, solving some of histories mysteries, questing within the spiritual realms for answers...each of these planted trees grown, but bare of results, incomplete, fruitless.

 

This dream has brought to the surface what needs to be done, at first I thought that the trees needed cultivation, attention to bring forth there leaves and to bear fruit. However, upon reflection, what needs to be done, is to leave that field behind. To abandon it, to let it wither in the past.

 

Time to travel over the hill, to the next field, and plant new a new tree. Perhaps not to seed an entire orchard, but to sow only one seed. To work on that one seed and attend to its requirements to have it grow, to sprout leaves and bring forth fruit. This is what I believe I must do. Thus the garden begins anew, and my work has just begun.

 

 

[CAT]

Re: The Key Of Time = Commentary

 

In modern Hebrew, chashmal means "electricity." .... This bothers me... In MODERN hebrew, chashmal means....; then what did chashmal mean in ancient hebrew ?

Lordy,

The Chashmal/Hashmal are Electrons that form the energy fields which give rise to physical form. Yet, the electrons themselves are not form as we know it. They are energy, an energy which gives rise to form but itself is not form. This is the secret of what the Kabbalists call the "speaking silence", the Hashmal (which hover around the celestial throne. The Hashmal are not electrons but it is the force that directs the electrons in their function.

 

Read all about it…

 

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=3421&Forum=time_travel&Words=accept%20a%20pre%20conceived%20Divine%20plan.&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=3408&Search=true#Post3421

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: The Key Of Time = Commentary

 

Thank-You for pointing me to that post. That fits into the foundation of this thread very well.

 

There is much information covered in your post. I could expand or comment on almost every point you brought forth. But, I decided to address one in particular since mention of it was contained within one of the first posts in this thread.

 

The Hashmal are not electrons but it is the force that directs the electrons in their function.

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"""Then to me spoke He, the Master: 'Know ye, O Hermes, in the beginning there was void and nothingness: a timeless, spaceless, nothingness. And into the nothingness came a thought, purposeful, all-pervading, and It filled the Void. There existed no matter, only force , a movement, a vortex of vibration of the purposeful thought that filled the Void."""

 

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Your description of the Hashmal seems to describe exactly what the Master was telling Hermes. Now to compare it too what Ezekiel witnessed, the version I read and quoted from was of Judaic origins. So it isnt suprising that this word or description was used in translation. The question that comes to my mind is this...Ezekeil is witnessing a craft of some kind, and describing it as best he can with what he knows, so is what he seeing actually Hashmal...or is it as stated in his description... LIKE Hashmal ?

 

If what he is witnessing is LIKE Hashmal, then what was it he really witnessed from our modern point of view ?

 

In other words, if that craft appeared before, lets say, RainmanTime, today, with his background and experience, what description would he write of this craft ?

 

 

[KerrTexas]

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[zerubbabel]

Re: The Key Of Time = Commentary

 

OvrLrd,

 

The following is a small piece of the study on Ezekiel. It is taken somewhat out of context but the general gist of the study is there. Remember, this was written very hastily by me more than 35 years ago so it does not contain things understood since then. I was primarily trying to show the physical side of the Bible:

 

A little known woman writing in the middle 1840's wrote that the heavenly sanctuary 'was vast and glorious in comparison with the earthly sanctuary which was but a 'faint reflection'.' It's vastness can only be dimly viewed. This sanctuary held—at least—millions upon millions of angel who did the bidding of Christ and the Father. According to the Bible, the earthly sanctuary was built upon a 'pattern' which was given to Moses. It was also seen by others in vision. The question here arises, can mortal man behold the glorious heavenly sanctuary with all of it's inner workings and be able to adequately describe it? In fact—which I will prove later--mortal men could not describe it adequately, so they had to be shown a pattern which described, at least symbolically, the workings therein. In other words, the earthly sanctuary was made after a pattern which was not the true sanctuary but a symbolic pattern which could only be understood in simultudes such as: 'like the appearance of brass, like the Son of Man', etc Our understanding thus far about the sanctuary service is predicated on our belief that there were two apartments in an actual building located in some heavenly sphere. Although we can glean a great deal of knowledge from this 'pattern', it is obvious that it is just a prelude to greater knowledge and truth that can be gleaned from a new view of old truth.

 

There are many other 'proofs' and if the reader will be patient, you will see the chain of truth. First, let us discuss the furniture. Without getting into all of the explanations of their value—which must be reexamined in view of the new truth—let me just summarize by saying that each piece had a symbolic meaning that had it's counterpart in reality. For example, Christ is seen as walking among the golden candlesticks. The seven candlesticks are said to be the seven churches or the seven angels to the seven churches or the seven spirits. Without going into a lot of detail, this brings up a lot of questions. If, as we believe, that the seven churches of Revelation refer to the churches throughout time(ending with Laodicea), then these golden candlesticks cover the entire history of the church in all it's forms. If these churches represent all of history, then Christ is seen as walking among them throughout time. Now this is not an unusual concept for us to understand, because we see Christ as 'the Beginning and the End' or the 'Alpha and the Omega' and ministering to us until the end of the world. However, when you view this in a physical way, you must make the conclusion that the heavenly sanctuary existed not only in a linear time-sense , but in the same sense that Christ and the Father exist—that is, 'Before Abraham WAS, I AM.' What I am saying here is that the heavenly sanctuary contains many of the same attributes of Divine Being. The sanctuary may not be a 'place' so much as it is a living process. In fact, this is exactly what it is and there is ample proof in the Bible that God's holy mountain, Mount Zion, and the heavenly sanctuary are one and the same, and do not exist apart from God but are intricately intertwined with the ministry of Christ, the workings of the known universe, and is a sanctuary for God. Even further than this, I can state with absolute certainty that the three great laws are unified in the sanctuary; i.e., the Ten Commandment Law, the law of nature (gravity, physics, etc) and the law of Moses or the moral law of ordinances representing righteousness by faith

 

Thus far we have seen two aspects of the sanctuary that we must take into consideration when trying to understand what God would have us know concerning these last times. It is written that the Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached to all the world, then the end will come. Up to this point in time, the Gospel has not been preached to the extent that it must. We only know that there is a heaven with all kinds of wonderful things in it and that all we have to do is accept Christ by faith and step forth in that faith and we will inherit this wonderful heaven of which we know so little. This faith has been absolutely necessary to prepare the individual to face evil in all it's forms and come through triumphant—not in ourselves lest we should boast—but in Christ Jesus. But more faith is needed for what is to come upon the world as an overwhelming surprise—not only to the unbelieving world but to God-fearing Christians as well. The woman I mentioned earlier also wrote, 'to this day, there are still aspects of truth which are dimly seen—connections that are not understood and far-reaching depths in the Law of God that are uncomprehended. There is immeasurable breadth, dignity, and glory in the Law of God, and the religious world has set aside this law in favor of traditions and the commandments of men.'

 

As I mentioned early on, the one aspect of the sanctuary which has received little attention is the subject of the Holy Shekinah. Since learning of it's qualities, the entire Bible has revolved around the truths involved. In short, the Bible is an entirely new book. An entirely different light is placed on all of the books and a new purpose is revealed. Before I get into an actual study of the Holy Shekinah, I would like to state what we are looking for and put forth what I have come to understand about it and it's implications. The things uncovered are vast and complex and cannot be stated in a sentence or a paragraph unless we are satisfied with terms we already understand to some extent such as righteousness by faith, imputed and imparted righteousness, etc. My intent is to reveal the reality and not the theory; to place additional light upon our pathway; and—above all—to raise the standard and repair the breach. We need to unify in the three angel's messages of Daniel 8 and this is a unifying message when it is understood in it's entirely. It gives us an understanding of God's nature, His Government and our purpose in it's workings.

 

We all know that our Heavenly Father—through Christ—desires us to have peace, love abundant life, and eternal life. He places all things at our disposal and even the universe itself is to become ours to govern if we remain faithful and overcome to the end. While the entire Christian world is preaching impending doom, a little know verse forecasts hope. Jesus tells us in Chapter 24 of Matthew that there shall be wars and rumors of wars. It is a primary concern of many concerning nuclear war and the ever increasing scale of conventional war around the world. But the next verse says, 'be not troubled for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.' The very angels of God are holding back the four winds in order that the Kingdom of God be preached to all the world. Then and only then will the end come. The Kingdom of God has been a secret until now. The psalmist states in Psalms 27:5, 'in the time of trouble He shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of His Tabernacle shall he hide me.' Matthew 24:15 states 'when ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place.' The secret of His Pavilion and the Holy Place are one and the same. The question arises—is this simply a faith procedure or does it have physical applications as well? The answer to this question contains far more than we can imagine! We have to go to the visions of the prophets to find out about this secret place. However, the key to the visions can only be found in one prophet alone. That prophet is Ezekiel. In the book of Ezekiel is revealed all the mysteries.

 

It is not coincidence that Ezekiel was shown things in a time that closely parallels our time. He was shown the abominations that were occurring in the very temple of God and among the leaders. Some were crying for Tammuz, secretly worshiping idols, worshipping animals, and worshipping the sun. The basest of iniquity was being practiced behind religious doors. But prior to showing Ezekiel these things, he was taken into vision and shown things of a most startling nature. Let us now take up this most amazing study.

 

The first thing that Ezekiel saw was a whirlwind come out of the North. This was no normal whirlwind. As a matter of fact, the word used here for whirlwind is the same word used when God breathed life into Adam and Eve. It also has connotations about spirit and the quickening of understanding. This tempest was seen as coming from the North. Strong's Concordance defines this as a hidden or secret place which is covered. What this tells us at the outset is that Ezekiel is seeing the agency through which God gives life and maintains it. But more importantly, it is coming from the secret place of God—namely the Holy of Holies. This is the REAL sanctuary in Heaven. What follows is probably the most important aspect of our study because a principle is involved that has it's counterpart in nature and is the only yardstick we can use to identify the nature of the principle involved. First, I will discuss the laws of nature involved. These laws have only within the last few years even begun to be understood. The theories involved have been around for many years but have not been proven to any extent until now. Even now, the proof has raised more questions than it has resolved. What I'm talking about is the nature and laws involving the motions of the heavenly bodies, their effect on one another, the atomic structure and the amazing forces that keep things together, and all the other forces involved—namely the functions of light and matter, gravity, and all the other forms of energy. The entire vision of Ezekiel discusses these things—not in the framework of nature, but in the framework of the workings of the Government of God!! Each agency employed in the government of God has it's counterpart or 'image' in the world of nature. Truly, 'the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth His handiwork.'

 

One of the most amazing discoveries of science is the so call 'black hole phenomenon.' This occurs when a normal star runs our of nuclear fuel(hydrogen). The star, which is comprised primarily of gasses and are highly unstable when the nuclear forces cease to operate because of lack of fuel. The remaining gasses and other materials begin to collapse upon one another and rush towards the center at speeds approaching that of light (186,282 miles per second). This creates such friction and heat that the by-product of hydrogen fission(helium), starts a thermonuclear furnace(fusion) and produces a star that is vastly smaller. This is called a neutron star. It has fuel enough to burn for perhaps several billion years, but when it's fuel is finally exhausted, the imploding process begins again. This time, however, there is nothing to stop it's collapse. The nuclear forces which prevented it's collapse now do not exist because the fuel is spent. What now happens is the 'black hold phenomenon.' The mass that was once a sun perhaps millions of miles across is now compressed into an area probably thousands, if not hundreds of miles across. This sun is now so dense and the gravity so powerful, that light itself cannot escape. It that was all there was to it, nothing important occurs. But that is not all that happens. Some very strange things occur. Firstly, the space around the 'black hole' becomes 'twisted' in a strange kind of way. It is said that the gravity is so powerful, that the sun ceases to exist in space as we know it. Some kind of 'wormhole' effect occurs and the sun exists in another 'dimension' of which we cannot measure. Even time itself is warped and twisted so that it ceases to exist in a linear fashion. Some postulate that these may be 'gates' to other dimensions or worlds. It is no coincidence that the Bible asks us to enter within the gates. Scientists tell us that this phenomenon is occurring on the microscopic level as well as the macroscopic. In fact, they mention the possibility that the blackness that we see at night surrounding the stars may indeed be a giant black hole in which we are traveling towards a destination we know nothing of. What we are talking about here is the possibility that this is the medium through which the Godhead ministers to the universe. The Bible tells us of the timelessness and the vastness of Heaven This medium reveals to us the nature of the Godhead as revealed in nature. Does the inspired word indicate anything that describes this process? The next few verses of Ezekiel has a surprisingly similar description!

 

After seeing the whirlwind come out of the north, Ezekiel saw a great cloud. The word 'great' not only means very large, but there is also a twisting which has something to do with why it is great. The word 'cloud' is the same word used for the covering cloud which covers the glory of the Holy Shekinah or the angels which cover the glory overshadowing the mercy seat. In other words, the entire structure of clouds which cover the majesty of God within is 'twisted' so that it may exist outside of the framework of time and space. The next verse confirms this somewhat. What he saw next was a fire infolding itself. The fire is easy enough to explain. God has manifested Himself in the burning bush, the pillar of fire, the cloudy pillar, etc. The infolding of this fire signifies that the fire is folding in upon itself. The concordance also states that it has the qualities that sieze, grab, or win. This is also a phenomenon of the black hole.

 

The next word of interest is also found just in Ezekiel. The prophet saw in the 'midst' of the infolding fire 'as the color of amber.' The word midst means that a bisection was made for the benefit of the prophet so that he could 'see' into the infolding fire to see it's qualities. Otherwise, it would have been invisible to him because amber is a polished spectrum metal that has some very interesting qualities indeed.. First, amber is transluscent. In other words it diffuses light so that what is behind it is hidden. Second, it is a spectrum metal which means light or the components of an emission or wave is separated and arranged much like the rainbow is displayed after being separated by a prism. It also does the same with the electromagnetic forces as well as radio sources. It is no wonder that the rainbow surrounds the throne of God!

 

The next verse gets into the four living creatures that are in the midst of the fire. The prophet uses the word 'likeness' to describe the creatures which were the 'likeness of man'. The concordance describes this likeness as a model or shape. The word for man is Adam. Therefore this means the model of Adam. Each of these creatures had four faces and no matter which direction you faced these creatures, you always faced the same side. It would seem that no matter which direction these creatures traveled, they always had the same face forward and they have the peculiar quality of traveling in a straight line which is a characteristic of radiation. The word for face is also the same word used for shewbread which is part of the sanctuary service. Each also had four wings which may not be wings in the normal sense but rather edges or extremities of not just a bird but probably an army. These may be the extremities of the army of Heaven which is part of the Government of God, but more likely (according the the verses following), they have a great deal to do with the creation of life and are actual elements of life itself. Further study bears this out in a remarkable way. However, since chemistry is not a very strong point of mine, I will have to stick to the facts and leave it to a further study. The implication of the next few verses would warrant a strong investigation. The word used for feet also has a strong connection to sexual organs or 'pudenda' as the concordance puts it. The fact that they sparkled like burnished brass places additional light on the subject. Burnished means that light was placed on the brass which is largely copper with some zinc. Copper has some important qualities. It is chiefly univalent and bivalent. What this means is that when univalent, it has a valence of one or the capacity to combine with another to form a different element. Being bivalent, which is the next step in the chain, means it has a valence of two and is associated in pairs in snyapsis concerning synaptic chromosomes. Synapsis concerns the association of homologous chromosomes or chromosomes ehich have the same relative value or structure with chiasma formation(fusion and exchange of segments of chromatids between members of a bivalent during meiosis), characteristic of the first meiotic prophase(the complex sequence of nuclear changes resulting tn the production of cells like gametes), and the mechanism for crossing over. This sounds very complicated and gets much more complicated. These are but the first steps in creating life.

 

In verse eight, it talks of hands of a man under their wings. The hands denote power, means and direction of the human species. Now if we suppose as mentioned before that the wings denote the extremeties of armies, then here we may have some significance as to whether these creatures have something to do with controlling the four winds which in turn denote the armies of the world. Their wings were joined meaning that the four acted as one unit. The concordance implies a closeness bordering on coupling. When they traveled, they did not revolve but went straight forward in the sense of crossing a gulf. This sounds exactly like the effects of radiation in that it only travels in one direction. In reference to crossing over a gulf, this may be the means by which an object travels from one point of the universe to another without having to circumnavigate the gulf in between. This implies instantaneous interstellar travel! Further study makes this much more plausible.

 

Now as for the resemblance of their faces. One was the face of mankind. Another was of a violently pierced lion. Obviously, this has some reference to the Lion of Judah who was pierced for our sakes. The ox has something to do with traveling (around a wall) and there is some joy involved because the traveler is singing. The eagle, of course has a great deal of meaning. Speed is one of it's attributes, but it also has something to do with tenderness, love and compassion.

 

Verse 11 speaks of their wings being stretched upward. The word stretched means to break through or spread or separate oneself. Upward means to ascend up at once or to shoot up. Thus, when the wings were stretched upward, they surprisingly describe the effect a black hole would have on an object—namely stretching to infinity and occupying one or more spaces simultaneously. Verse 12 says they went straight forward; whither the spirit was to go they went. The word whither has reference both to time and place or space as well as to whom, to what, how when and where. The spirit again refers to the whirlwind or the breath of life. So these creatures were under the direct control of the whirlwind and went where, when, how, to whomever and to whatever the spirit dictated and they did not deviate al all or 'turned not' when they went. Verse 13 gets into the appearance of the creatures as opposed to their substance. The word appearance denotes a view, whether real, a shape, a vision or a pattern of the thing seen. By implication, what the prophet was seeing was 'looking through a glass darkly' at something he couldn't possibly understand, but the mental vision of the pattern gave him the words to use in describing it.

 

Their appearance was 'like burning coals of fire'. The word like denoted manner, time and relation to the burning coal of fire. The burning coal of fire represents the consuming fire of which God is described and travels all around and up and down among the living creatures. The fire was bright meaning that it not only caused the creatures to shine like Moses did when coming down from the mount, but it also illuminated them with knowledge, spirit and power. Out of this fire went forth lightning which was the means by which the creatures could run and return as the flash of lightning. The lightning cast the creatures back and forth doing the bidding of the spirit. This means that these creatures traveled at the speed of light and therefore traveled instantaneously to whatever point of space and time the spirit desired. The book of John 1:51 states, hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man. Here then is the means by which the angels ascend and descend! It is also the ladder that Jacob saw in vision!

 

Verse 15 says that as he beheld the creatures, he saw a wheel upon the earth by the living creatures. Now this perhaps one of the most difficult subjects; because of such varying interpretations. Some feel that this represents each of the aspects of life on our world. In other words, the smallest wheel interacts with the the next larger wheel which is the individual having an effect on others around him while they interact upon others and eventually affecting the entire world. I feel that these wheels represent the workings of atomic particles representing matter and their structure. There is some evidence to show that this is so. Verse 15 shows the prophet seeing one wheel upon the earth. The one wheel signifies a united one. In other wheels, while there were wheels besides each creature, they were joined together much like the wings of the creatures were joined. We have all see the symbol of nuclear particles and they appear as a wheel within a wheel. Now, in Verse 16, 'the appearance of the wheels and their workings was like unto the colour of beryl.' The element beryl or beryllium has some very interesting qualities. If you were to represent beryl as a nuclear symbol, it would have four wheels because it consists of four particles. We already discussed elements #1 & 2—namely hydrogen and helium—in the workings of the black hole. Element #3(lithium) is also part of the nuclear fission and fusion process. Beryl consists of a silicate of beryllium and aluminum. Here again we have some basic building blocks of life and an increased ability in the elements involved to combine or react with similar or homologous substances. The biggest difference with these elements is that they have the ability to interact with antigens which are usually proteins or carbohydrate substances such as toxins or enzymes. They are also amorphous, meaning there is no shape and they are malleable and ductile meaning that they can be shaped. Even with the most limited chemistry background, we know that life cannot be produced without proteins, amino acids, enzymes and the like. Here again we are being shown the steps involved in the creation of life. Verse 18 states that the rings were so high that they were dreadful and the rings were full of eyes. Here we have the first inkling of the power which keeps the particles as represented by the rings for it is only the speed of the particle around a center that gives the appearance of a ring. The rings were 'high' meaning that they reached into the heavens themselves—right to the throne of God. Being dreadful is the same as fear—not in the sense of fright but of reverence. The eyes are nothing more than the very presence of God within the rings, or more appropriately, the ministry of Christ and the Father. Some may say that this is pantheistic, but it is not. God's presence exists at angles to the space of the rings and is the power that keeps it from collapsing. The particles are created by God. He upholds all things by the power of His Arm.

 

Verses 19 through 21 tell of the fact that without the power of the wheels, the creatures went nowhere for 'the spirit of the creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures 'stood' meaning ascended, the power of the wheels 'stood' also; and when the creatures 'went' meaning vanishing for the, again the wheels 'vanished forth'. Verse 22 shows the order in which these creatures appear in the government of God for above their heads was the Terrible Crystal. The word terrible means the same as reverence or fear of God and the crystal is the same Sea of Glass seen by John the Revelator. This Sea of Glass is mingled with fire which, of course, represents the consuming fire of God. Verse 24 speaks of noise 'like the noise of great waters'. The great waters represent the same 'rain' that fell on the disciples at Pentecost accompanied by rushing noise and the 'tongues of fire' that descended upon each of the followers and quickened their understanding by the very same spirit that attended the creatures and upheld the power of the wheels. Verse 26 shows that God's throne was above the sea of glass or terrible crystal. The appearance of the throne was like a sapphire stone. This sapphire seems to be the final process in the creation of life and is somehow connected to the terrible crystal beneath it. Sapphire is consisted of aluminum oxide which is made of a binary compound of oxygen with an element or radical(a root part, basic principle or foundation). In the process of oxidizing, the oxygen dehydrogenates. That is, the enzyme dehydrogenase accelerates the removal of hydrogen from metabolites. Metabolites are the product of metabolism which is the sum of the processes in the building up and destruction of protoplasm incidental to life; specifically the chemical changes in living cells by which energy is provided for vital processes and activities. END OF STUDY OF FIRST CHAPTER OF EZEKIEL

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Ezekiel is a very interesting read. Very important information disclosed within its text. Your in-depth research on the connections are fantastic. I had to read it over a few times to allow the material to sink in.

 

What is becoming apparent as one closes in on specific truths, regarding the essence of creation, one also begins to enter into a realm where words don't accurately describe the proceedings, or those revelations that become clear.

 

The symbology that is linked to much of the material involved in our study, has taken on an entirely different meaning in the last few weeks. These symbols are no longer merely ink on paper, but they are halographic in nature.

 

I have also become aware of the caution that must be exercised when peering around the door, as it begins to open. Throwing the doorway wide open certainly would require one to be strong, or disaster would be the outcome of seeing in full view, that which is hidden behind this doorway of which I speak.

 

Time Travel is possible.

 

The veils or obstacles that one must overcome are what makes the possibility of time travel, virtually impossible for any man.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

1. There existed no matter, only force

2. A movement

 

3. A vortex of vibration

 

4. In the beginning, there was eternal thought

 

5. For thought to be eternal, time must exist

 

6. INTO the thought grew the Law of Time

 

7. Time is movement that is in a state of fixation

 

8. Time is the FORCE that holds events separate

 

9. Time is not in motion

 

10. Your consciousness moves from one event to another

 

11. Eternal One Existence

 

13. Even though in Time you are separate, yet you are still One in all times existent.

 

14. Time moves through strange angles

 

15. Yet only by curves could I hope to attain the key that would give me access to the time-space

 

16. "Light" is the goal you seek to attain

 

17. Find at the source, the End of your goal.

I was looking at these statements written on this tablet. And it seemed that I have read similar statements before. So off into the library I went and found the Gospel of Thomas.

Now compare these to statements by Jesus in The Gospel of Thomas to what the Tablet of Hermes mentions.

 

1. For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one.

 

2. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.

 

3. Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end

 

4. Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

 

5.Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."

 

6.If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

 

7.Jesus said, "Images are visible to people, but the light within them is hidden in the image of the Father's light. He will be disclosed, but his image is hidden by his light."

 

8.Jesus said, "When you make the two into one, you will become children of Adam.

 

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Alot of information is given in these statements. Some of that information stands out.

 

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3. Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end.---Gospel of Thomas

 

17. Find at the source, the End of your goal.--- Tablet of Hermes

 

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4. Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female...--- Gospel of Thomas

 

8.Jesus said, "When you make the two into one, you will become children of Adam.---Gospel of Thomas

 

11. Eternal One Existence --- Tablet of Hermes

 

13. Even though in Time you are separate, yet you are still One in all times existent.--- Tablet of Hermes

 

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6.If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.--- Gospel of Thomas

 

7. Time is movement that is in a state of fixation

 

8. Time is the FORCE that holds events separate

 

9. Time is not in motion --- Tablet of Hermes

 

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One of the bits of information really caught my attention...

 

5.Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it.... and .... you will return there again ."

 

 

[KerrTexas]

So how can we define or describe time? According to these texts, time is defined as ...

 

7. Time is movement that is in a state of fixation

 

8. Time is the FORCE that holds events separate

 

9. Time is not in motion

 

If time itself is NOT in motion, but in a state of fixation, then time itself is but ONE. Not a string of dates on the calender.

 

So what would we be traveling through?

 

10. Your consciousness moves from one event to another.

 

13. Even though in Time you are separate, yet you are still One in all times existent.

 

The traveling would be through consciousness, from one event to another. In time we are seperate, but we are ONE in ALL TIMES existent.

 

 

[RainmanTime]

It looks like OvrLrd found a "back door" means to mess around with the "time base" of the TTI forums! I know what he did, and saw the effect. Does anyone else?

 

BTW, OvrLrd, I for one would love to hear about your progress along this line. Care to share?

 

New/Improved RMT

 

 

[KerrTexas]

Manipulation of time my dear friend, RainmanTime?

 

As far as progress is concerned, I believe you know that I am confident you understand my position with my sentiments regarding posting further information regarding the data contained within this thread.

 

The progress is merely built upon the foundations woven within the tapestry of information already presented. The progress I mentioned is merely an extension of what has been revealed.

 

 

[KerrTexas]

The webs we weave to achieve specific goals, despite the nature of the wandering mind?

 

Merely an adjustment of the lens, my friend.

 

Know what I mean?

 

Know what I mean?

 

You know what I mean.

 

 

 

[RainmanTime]

Merely an adjustment of the lens, my friend.

Mmmmmmm Hmmmmmmm.Adjusting the lens by which we view Time...seems to me this might be part of The Key of Time.

I know whatcha mean, Verne!

 

TMR devorpmI\weN

 

 

[RainmanTime]

I always wonder why there are so many people that want to talk about "time travel" but so few people who wish to talk about what Time really is to begin with.

 

Whistling past the graveyard, maybe?

 

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