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first i'll have to tell you that i only respond with facts, SCIENTIFIC FACTS.


So, this Zeshua-person, who claims to be a TT, will be unmasked, in this post.




Zechua(yeah you), you claim to have a silicon/organic/quantum hybrid system, right?


Well, this is the one thing i know a few things of: the field of QUANTUM COMPUTING.


I study physics/logic/computerscience at the KUL(1) and at the VUB(2).


So, if you are from the year 2025 you HAVE to know that it is UNTHINKABLE of making a quantum-computer that is a HYBRID-system with a normal PC/CPU/computer, yes?


For the people who don't know this:(and you are in this group)


A quantum computer is a kind of turing-machine that operates via quantum-mechanical-phenomena like entanglement(the 'spooky action at a distance'/Einstein) and superposition for operating datasets.


a 'normal' PC uses 2 states to store and manipulate datasets: the elusive one's and zero's that make up the rudimentary binary registers/memory/... to store things called BITS(e.g. 00 01 10 11= 0,1,2,3)


quantum computers use not BITS, but Qu-bits(QUantum BITS).


To go to the point(instead of boring you with theories) a quantum-bit (i like to call it 'qb' hence my alias) has also the same properties of a normal bit, except that it isn't confined to the MUST BE ONE OF TWO STATES.


(??????) As a normal bit HAS to be OR 1 OR 0 (on/off) a qb can be 1,0 or a superposition of BOTH(3). So this renders it as incredibly FAST and incredibly good for cryptology(logic-gates that can be both could make a coded message pretty useless for people without the actual key).


So, now that you know this, you should feel the water rising, yes?


If your computer(if it can be build, and used, wich i seriously doubt) uses hybrid-technology(you probably heard the term in a car commercial, NOWADAYS), it would LOSE the quantum-properties because a hybrid HAS to be compatible with the LOWER-end(being the normal CPU/pc) which renders it to, a mere 'normal'-PC's speed and losing the superpositioning of the 1's and 0's.


now the organic-computer throw-down:


wich isn't my cup of tea( to be hounest),


In 1999 there was a publication ,I don't know exactly, but it was either MIT or GIT that spread the word, probably you gained the idea from there(it was major news back then), about organic computing, COMPUTING(not compuTER).


In that article they said that they could do nothing more than adding, multiplying, subtrackting and devisions(yes, like a very VERY simple pocket calculater).


This field is still in it alpha-phase meaning that it rarely reaches the right conclusion, this is funny, it can, but NOT ALWAYS, give you the answer to mathematical problems if the numbers that are used are smaller than nn(00-99) e.g. 01+05 = 06 but not 99+01= 100(nnn).


From this we can make ASSUMPTIONS(i hate assumptions but WTH) that the usability of a organic computer is still 0.0(zero,zero).


So the claim that we will have a working organic-computer in the year 2025 is most speculative. Not that it can not be, but most unlikely, as in: the color purple exists, rain too, rabbits also, but the day that purple rabbits rain from the sky is most likely nihil.


So IF( and that is a BIG IF) these organic computers exist in 2025, they would LONG be out of their prototype-phase(most of the times takes about 5 years). Making it MINIMUM 2020 that they will be around. And now is 2007 and they still haven't been released out of their 'thinking-about'-phase.


Now the hybrid thing:


IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. (no explanation needed, see above)


I hope that other people come up with far better stuff than this, because YOU are humiliating the species, including yourself, with such irrational idea's!


But, if you could give me emperical proof of your statements, i will have to congratulate you for being the first real TT.


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KUL Katholieke Universiteit Leuven ---> English: Catholic university of Louvain in Belgium.




VUB Vrije universiteit Brussel ---> English: Free University of Brussels also in Belgium.




BOTH= not one of two states but BOTH AT THE SAME TIME! e.g. a zero can be interpreted as a one or even a one one zero one zero....untill +/-infinity(explanation is pretty boring, trust me)



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Hey.. how nice to find someone who knows alot about computers.


I got a question.


What IF...


a computer that did 1,2,3, sequences first instead of the usual 0,1,2,3 sequences?


What would that tell you? I am curious...


thanks for answering if you do. :)



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Sorry for the long delay, crashed my pc, did a thesis, got a girlfriend, got work, worked aparently to much, lost her(lol), forgot about this forum, remembered it today and saw your post.


Your question is somewhat strange, this is because computers don't "think" in base 10, but in base 2(binary, more efficient). So if it would do "stuff" that way it would make it less efficient(and manufacturers would have to make bigger "chipsets" with 10 tiny switches instead of only 2).


If you mean handling 1,2,3 which is the same as 0,1,2,3(but with a 0 in front btw), computers don't have to work in that order. For a cpu it realy doesn't matter what kind of sequence it works in, it could be like 3,0,2,1 or 1,0,2,3 or 2,1,3 because the cpu only "sees" 0's and 1's, and actualy not even that. All it cares about is the logic and the mathematics of the software. If that adds up, then everything is okay.


I hope this still helps you out?



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So, if you are from the year 2025 you HAVE to know that it is UNTHINKABLE of making a quantum-computer that is a HYBRID-system with a normal PC/CPU/computer, yes?

I'd have to disagree with you.

Well, it's not 'unthinkable'.....merely illogical by today's reasoning. And by no means impossible. There might perhaps be some reason for doing it.


I see no reason at all why a hybrid quantum/classical PC would not work. One is not superimposing the two but having them run in linear fashion. If a quantum system works, and a classical system works.....having the two run side by side with output from one to the other is clearly possible. Quite why one would WANT to do this is another matter.



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Zeshua wrote in 2005 : "Seven to Eleven, cards collapse, thy dollar not firm. Twelve to Fifteen,


half the world burns."


The recession has indeed been officially recorded as beginning in 2007, as she predicted years in




But it's now almost 2011, four years after the recession started, and almost six years after she


made this precisely-timed prediction, and just as she predicted, the recession has not ended. It


began when she said, and it has continued and seems now to be likely to make it into 2011, as she


also predicted.


The foreclosure crisis seems certain to push the recession along at least thru into the beginning


of 2011. And despite the happy talk a few months back about the recession being over, it seems


people are still in dire straits .




Headline: "Who's upset over the economy? Everybody, everywhere"


Zeshua was also correct about the value of the dollar not being firm. When she wrote this in 2005, the price of gold was $444. In 2007 it was $695. Today it is $1350.


This means that the value of the dollar relative to gold has gone down almost 50% since 2007.


That means Zeshua's brief one line 2005 prediction "Seven to Eleven, cards collapse, thy dollar not firm" actually made THREE correct predictions.


Are you expecting the second half of that prediction ("Twelve to Fifteen,


half the world burns") to be totally off the mark?



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