Designer Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Is it heavy or is it light There are just three objects in the universe one stationary point(object) called A and two other objects called B and C moving away in the same directions at the speed of light minus 1 m/s with respect to A. B and C with respect to A get very heavy due to relativity since it is just travelling under the speed of light. Then point A pops out of existence. This then leave B relative to C as stationary now since A does not exist. So now B and C are very light and not heavy as before due to the theory of relativity. Thus CONTRADICTION. Do you see how difficult in resolving this light or heavy mass problem is! You need quantum entanglement between object for this to work or the theory of relativity is not valid. For this problem to be valid you need an invisible ether that everything to be relative to it so that things can reference that one point in space. Thx, Designer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLord Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 It's not really that complex. Consider 3 friends who hang out together. 2 are fat, and 1 is skinny. The fat ones are always feeling down about themselves because they're comparing themselves to their slender friend. But one day, the thin person dies, and the fat people are left to compare themselves only to each other. Suddenly they don't feel so fat anymore. Even to the skinny person, there was no absolute standard as to what is the proper size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Just a final point If (B+C) move away from A at near the speed of light then (B+C) get heavy. But wait; it can also be viewed as A moving away from (B+C) at near the speed of light. So the question is is A heavy or (B+C) heavy? If there is an invisible connection between A and (B+C), maybe it is the pull between these two set of particle separating from each other(like a stretching rubber band) thus result in getting heavy. Could this be the result of quantum entanglement? Just having 3 object in the universe makes thing tricky doesn't it; that's the problem with thought experiments isn't it! Thanks, Designer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 There are just three objects in the universe one stationary point(object) called A and two other objects called B and C moving away in the same directions at the speed of light minus 1 m/s with respect to A. B and C with respect to A get very heavy due to relativity since it is just travelling under the speed of light. Then point A pops out of existence. This then leave B relative to C as stationary now since A does not exist. So now B and C are very light and not heavy as before due to the theory of relativity. Thus CONTRADICTION. There are no contradictions here and no problems at all figuring out what each observer would see. B and C moving away in the same directions at the speed of light minus 1 m/s with respect to A. B & C are moving away from A at the same velocity (speed and direction). B & C are at rest with respect to each other. There are no relativistic effects noted by B or C WRT C or B. The only relativistic effects they note are WRT A. Then point A pops out of existence. This then leave B relative to C as stationary now since A does not exist. The statement is somewhat correct but the reasons given are completely wrong. B & C were always at rest WRT each other. That didn't change irrespective of any change in A. That A suddenly disappeared only means that B & C might have to figure out what all of that momentum and mass were converted to to make A go bye-bye. BTW: You're confusing "heaviness" with "mass". They are related but not at all the same thing. Nothing in your gedankenexperiment "got heavier" at any time. More massive, more momentum? Yes. Heavier (more matter) - no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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