RainmanTime Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 ... the secrets of the Pyramids as they relate to the design of PURPOSE (INTENTION) DRIVEN SYSTEMS? It is an interesting connection to be sure, and leads to a great many other areas of science. New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1ex Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Mayan Pyramids, Aztec pyramids, tolmec Pyramids, Egyptian Pyramids? be specific? Edit: You Mean the Egyptian right? Yes Im interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 Mayan Piramids, Aztec piramids, tolmec Piramids, Egyptian Piramids? be specific? All of them. New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikmovado Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Yes,I would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 3 Pathways Thru Time... Yes,I would like to know. Very well. But for anyone to come to understand this connection, it is not as simple as someone telling you "the answer to 2+2 is four." Those things that are valuable to know and understand do not necessarily come that easy.As with the path to understanding ANY sort of new idea, or new knowledge, or new technology, there is more than ONE pathway to approach that understanding. Different pathways work for different people. So are you willing to put in some work to know what you have said you wish to know? And if so, are you willing to have a discussion to see which one of THREE different methods you can choose from that will lead you to understand the "secret of the pyramid" that is related to any living system with INTENTION.This goes for anyone else who would like to know this knowledge. Any/all of you are free to ask questions as we go through this process. I will do my best to answer all of them, if I can. But at the same Time , I will explain the 3 methods to approach this knowledge and the different levels of work you have to put in for each of these three methods. Each of these Three methods will traverse a different Pathway through Time. So, Tikmovado... what do you think so far? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 wa1ex, Edit: You Mean the Egyptian right? Yes Im interested How about we add to your list the European Pyramid, or the (offshore/submerged) Japanese "Pyramid"? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1ex Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Yes the European Pyramid I totally forgot: The Japanese Pyramid: We also forgot the pyramid of corporate greed..... But on a serious note, Im Interested on how a civilization totally isolated from the rest of the world (mayans) came up with so many mathematical discoveries without intervention? I dont know if anyone has been to Chichn Itzá but for a group of people who discovered the Zero but missed the discovery of the wheel, people have to agree that some of the Architecture is actually pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iridium Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Does it suprise you that there are pyramids spread all throughout the world. But don't forget...all of humanity was once consolidated in one place (relatively) and spoke a common language. And they were scattered because why? They built a tower (pyramid?) that was to reach the heavens. Once scattered, their languages were confused and they each sought to congregate with those who spoke the same language. But the elders of these people would have still remembered the building that they did (pyramid?) and sought to emulate it in their respective regions. This is all speculation and theory on my part. But that's my angle...to take scripture and see how the world we live in lines up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Ray, I'm going to chime in here as I believe this is a valuable lesson in time travel… Really, if one wants to be technical when the term "time travel" is used I'd like to think of it as a "non local" quantum phenomenon… I'll get to the significance of the pyramid shape soon enough... To understand what I'm talking about when I say "non local" I copied and pasted a segment of one of my old posts: Lets imagine we are listening to Beethoven on the radio and we know that if we tear the radio apart hoping to find Beethoven inside the radio - we wont! Were not going to find him there for a technical reason, he's not there… Because the radio is an instrument that traps a non local field of energy and information and creates a space time event out of it… A space-time event is any event that has a location in space and has moments in time… This computer has this location here… it has moments in time, it had a beginning a middle and has an ending… A tree is a space-time event, this body is a space-time event… once upon a time this body was just a spec of information and DNA. It occupies different locations in space and has moments in time… everything that we perceive with our senses is a space-time event or a continuum of space-time events. So the radio is an instrument that takes a non-local field of information and energy and creates a space-time event of it. If the radio is in Chicago but the symphony is in New York - a different location in space and different time zone… if this radio is on the moon than its a completely different location in space and moment in time… if the radio is in another galaxy 100 million light years away than we are in a completely different location but also a completely different dimension of time… but the symphony by itself is non local and can not be localized in space or in time - that's what the word means - non local… So if we are not in the body than where are we? The answer seems to be that it's the wrong question! Because as soon as we say 'where' it implies a location in space to something that does not occupy space… and we also apply moments in time to something that is eternal and timeless. The soul is space-less, its dimensionless, its eternal, therefore timeless and we cant say where it is? Even birth and death are space-time events with locations in space and a moment in time. These are just parenthesis in our existence - Mortality in disguise! So we are space less, dimensionless, timeless without beginning and end… only that which has a beginning has an end but that which has no beginning cant die… there is no end to that… Because of this 'non local' condition, I don't believe time travel will be achieved in the terms that we may think of it… I think that time travel may be already occurring, in fact it always has occurred, but by way of the mind and soul touching base and intermingling with the ether worlds (dimensions) where we are privy to vast amounts of information if we know how to tap in… There is also a strong possibly that biolocation exists… This is where one can emanate a complete duplicate, or look-alike of themselves and be in multiple places at once, thanks to natures variances of non locality. Jesus tried to teach us this at the resurrection...Ok, I may be going off track here, but hopefully this will all join together… Getting back on track, the importance of this thread is about pyramids and I'm going to venture as far as to say that it's the magnificence of the shape alone… This is a symbol of a lost knowledge... In revealing this "shape", that we call a pyramid, I'd like to refer to as a Tetrahedron, that is shaped like a pointy thorn and has 4 sides. It is also the 'first platonic solid' in which all other life forms follow… This tetrahedron symbol was used in part as a seal that when we join with a higher power it becomes two merging tetrahedrons creating a shield… this is a widely known symbol as the Jewish Star of David… and this defining mark is used/displayed when one merges with Gd in unity for strength… It was used as far back as Moses time when they covered the holly ark of the covenant with a cloth using that symbol and it was later used again in history to depict King David's name. The ancient letter D/Daled/Delta was the shape of a triangle. And DaviDs name started and ended with a D thus forming a 6 pointed star. Though, there is much more that proceeds the intelligent design of just a 'single' tetrahedron. It also depicts the instruction given to natures growth sequence… It is known by many names such as the Fibonacci sequence, Golden Mean Spiral, Phi - call it whatever you wish, but it is any sequence of intelligent design that show a pattern that increases by units. Here is a picture of thorns. As they grow up and taper off at the tip they contain the Fibonacci growth sequence: http://www.buckcash.com/images/artphotos/Plants/thorns.jpg And now I know this is going to be appreciated by Ray, Zerub, Transient and OverLord… a most miraculous finding as if Gd had intended it to be found! In the very first verse of the Hebrew bible Genesis 1:1 in the act of creation when the Hebrew words are broken down and derived from Qabalah, and part of the 'Tree Of Life' lessons… The first word of Genesis 1:1 is Bara-shith is translated to mean in the beginning, but in Qabalah it also symbolizes and means - He created 6. ShITh, Shith, is the Chaldee (Chaldean Aramaic of the old testament) form of the Hebrew ShSh, Shash, six. It describes the "Seven Days of Creation", In Zohar B'reshith, it says that the entire cycle of creation is contained in the first verse of Torah B'reshith… In Qabalah (Tree Of Life diagram) the word B'shith can be broken down… the B represents the head (Malkuth) and the 6 others (Yesod, Hod, Netzah, Tifareth, Geburah, Hesed… Ironically! This also represents the Chariot or what some call the Merkaba (vehicle of light). http://www.rajunasrefuge.com/merkaba.jpg http://www.moreno-stone.co.il/catalog/merkaba/merkaba%20m20.jpg http://www.metatron-galactron.com/images/merkaba.gif http://www.flordelavida.com.mx/images/merkaba.jpg So now we can see that "time travel" or what is to be perceived as time travel has already been taught centuries ago in the form of Qabalah… Though, this teaches so much more as it opens ones mind and heart to the essence of Gd - which might be the only true reality any of us are ever going to find… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I think i'd like to take a ride, RMT! Do you have a guide for the three different pathways available to choose from? I think this might be interesting indeed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Right on, CAT. The kinds of information that CAT has discussed in her post represent ONE of the THREE different methods for approaching the knowledge of the "secret of the pyramids". Furthermore, Olly seems to have intuitive insight into how this thread will have to unfold... if each of us is to know which of the THREE methods is best for us to choose. But let me make one distinction so we are clear about something: CAT has discussed the Platonic solid known as the tetrahedron. This is related to, but NOT the same as, a pyramid. The tetra is a "regular solid" because all of its faces are comprised of the exact same shape (the equilateral triangle). We could say that the tetra is the pyramid in its most fundamental form. The pyramid is an "evolved" state of the tetra: It has four sides that are triangles, but the base of the pyramid is a square. Thus, we cannot call the pyramid a "regular" solid. It is a modification of the "ideal" tetra, and we often find that such modifications to ideal concepts to be necessary in order to manifest them on the physical plane such that they are practical. The Egyptians realized this as they progressed in their own method of reaching an understanding of the "secret of the pyramids". When they attempted to build tetrahedrons, they discovered that while it was the "perfect", originating Platonic solid, a tetra had some problems associated with its construction as a physical building. More importantly they realized that the shape of the tetra would not allow them to build the type of structure that they needed to build, namely a structure that could honor the four directions of the compass and their wishes to align this earthly marker with stellar constellations. The Egyptians realized that a square base was necessary in order to orient the structure equally along all four cardinal ("sacred") directions. This is an important lesson that they learned, and depending on which of the THREE methods you choose to pursue the "secrets of the pyramids", you may come to realize why this was such an important lesson for the Egyptians. So in closing this post, let me just say that learning about the tetra is included in ONE of the THREE methods I speak of. However, for this thread I will not be pursuing that method, and we will be focusing on the pyramid. New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 The THREE Methods - Categorized Yo Olly, Do you have a guide for the three different pathways available to choose from? Funny you should ask. It is a guide that universally applys to any balanced set of 3.(-) The Passive MethodThe person who wishes to understand the "secret of the pyramids" chooses this method when they demand they be given POSITIVE PROOF of any given pyramid "secret". They are fully passive, and they require someone else to ACTIVELY show them and convince them that a certain "secret" of the pyramid is actually true. The person who chooses this method invests an absolute MINIMUM of Time, Energy, Effort, and Money (TEEM) in their quest to understand the "secret of the pyramids". (o) The Neutral Method The person who wishes to understand the "secret of the pyramids" chooses this method when they remain honestly open and "neutral" with respect to the truth of a certain "secret". They are not fully passive, and at the same TIME they are not fully active. The person who chooses this method sees Time, Energy, Effort, and Money (TEEM) as "capital" that can be spent to achieve the level of understanding they wish to achieve. Such a person seeks to NEUTRALIZE the effects on their TEEM while they still hope to get to their stated goal of understanding. (+) The Active Method The person who wishes to understand the "secret of the pyramids" chooses this method when they ACTIVELY seek out the truth behindany given pyramid "secret". This person is fully engaged in the ACT of investigating and learning pyramid "secrets". The person who chooses this method invests an absolute MAXIMUM of their Time, Energy, Effort, and Money (TEEM) in their quest to achieve their stated goal. So... pretty simple breakdown of the methods available for one to choose from if they wish to learn the stuff I am offering to teach. Which TEEM do you want to be on? Any questions so far? :yum: New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized Howdy Ray, I'd like to be on the Active TEEM please. As the 'Passive' contains many negatives and the 'Neutral' is more balanced but still has its own pitfalls. However, theres no coming back from the 'Acitve', past a certain point. I have Selected my choice, Mr Time. What next? Kind regards, Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized XLNT Olly, I'd like to be on the Active TEEM please. As the 'Passive' contains many negatives and the 'Neutral' is more balanced but still has its own pitfalls. However, theres no coming back from the 'Acitve', past a certain point. I have Selected my choice, Mr Time. What next? Congratulations on your personal selection. I am certain it is right for you.But before we go on, let's query the others who registered interest in this thread, and see if they have selected which of the THREE methods they wish to follow. So I ask the following contributors if they know which method they might wish to follow?wa1ex? Tikmovado? iridium? CAT? Care to share any thoughts on this? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Another Euro Pyramid Yes the European Pyramid I totally forgot: Have you heard of another (ancient) pyramid being discovered on the European continent recently? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: Another Euro Pyramid Good gosh, I hope they hurry in replying with their choices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeline79 Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized Get on with it! In the immortal words of Monty Python... Get on with it! You either a.) Don't know what you're talking about ot b.) Claim to know what you're talking about to satisfy your own parrot ego. Which is your INTENTION? Timeline79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1ex Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized im interested..pyramid ..intelligent design.... RMT...eouropean pyramid was meant to be a humorous comment... specially with the da vinci hype....what will really shock me is if they find a pyramid in antartica.. Active. "all actions no theories" instead of "all theories no actions" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Scientist Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized They have it is serbia or somewhere near there, I do remembe reading about it. GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized timeline79, Get on with it! In the immortal words of Monty Python... Get on with it! So from this comment, I'd take it that patience and diligence in reaching a goal are NOT virtues you hold?You either a.) Don't know what you're talking about ot b.) Claim to know what you're talking about to satisfy your own parrot ego. Only those two choices, eh? Is this the way you are accustomed to speaking to someone who has something you want? Not only have you NOT selected a method, but from the sounds of it I doubt whether you are really interested. If that is true, your negative outbursts will only serve to FURTHER delay the information I CHOOSE to share with the others.Which is your INTENTION? Neither of the two you have outlined above. My INTENTION is to share information on a complex topic (I'm a teacher...teachers tend to do this). In case you did not read my initial reply to Tikmovado, let me repeat it here:But for anyone to come to understand this connection, it is not as simple as someone telling you "the answer to 2+2 is four." Those things that are valuable to know and understand do not necessarily come that easy. So now YOU need to make a CHOICE. Do you want to fish, or are you just going to be our bait-cutter in this thread? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 11, 2006 Author Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized Active. "all actions no theories" instead of "all theories no actions" That makes two active method seekers.I should point out the obvious: You are not locked-in with your choice. You are always free to change your choice. In fact, adopting the "neutral" and "passive" methods are often strategically useful as you approach whatever it is you wish to understand (in this case "secrets of the pyramids"). Furthermore, one will often find that they do not have sufficient amounts of TEEM (Time, Energy, Effort, Money) to expend as an active-method seeker 100% of the Time. For example: When one runs out of money, an active seeker cannot help but become a neutral seeker with respect to that particular measure of INTENTION (Money).Yes....measures of INTENTION...an important concept we should talk about. Does everyone understand how the elements that comprise TEEM represents measures of our INTENTION? For example, if someone selects the ACTIVE method and dedicates ALL of their Time, Energy, Effort, and Money towards achieving their goal, this would be the extreme application of that person's INTENTION to achieve what they seek (in this case "secrets of the pyramids"). So any reasonable person can MEASURE just how much INTENTION they are applying to their quest, at any given point in Time. Yes? Are we in agreement on this? As I mentioned earlier, a person who chooses a Neutral method will generally try to "balance out" how much they expend for any one measure of TEEM. The definition of a person who is "totally Neutral" would be one who expends (but also does not receive) any measures of TEEM as they follow the pathway through Time to achieve what they seek (in this case "secrets of the pyramids"). But that is an idealistic condition. Usually, one will adjust their expenditures ("outputs) of TEEM to be in line with their receipt ("inputs") of TEEM. The person who is realistically Neutral is always playing a balancing game among Inputs and Outputs of TEEM. For example: If all of a sudden I get a significant influx of "M" ($) then I can "afford" to expend part of my budget with respect to Time, Energy, and Effort. The person who chooses the Passive method, by definition, will never, EVER choose to expend any of their TEEM towards achieving the goal they seek (in this case "secrets of the pyramids"). On internet forums these people are called "trolls", because they only RECEIVE TEEM from others, but they have no INTENTION of using or applying that TEEM to something they are pretending to be seeking. Rather, they are collecting TEEM from others and using it for other purposes (other INTENTIONS). Now, since some folks in this thread appear to be a little impatient (timeline79) perhaps I should continue with my sharing of the "secrets of the pyramids". But as I do, let me make it clear that if the only thing you plan to "do" to reach an understanding of these secrets is to read this thread, then you are following more of the NEUTRAL if not PASSIVE Method. Because if you think about it, since I am the one willing to share this knowledge with all of you, I am expending a significant amount of my TEEM in doing so. Someone who is lurking along with this thread is (by our measures as active participants in this thread) expending very low amounts of TEEM. As such, if they never ask questions or even post at all, then their ability to progress in learning is limited, unlike others who have chosen a more ACTIVE Method. OK...so the FIRST "hint" about the "secrets of the pyramids" is that there are three distinct "domains" within which we design any sort of system that will possess INTENTION. These THREE domains (the same ones listed in my signature line below) can and are represented in the physical form of the pyramid. In fact, one might say these domains define the set of THREE mutually orthogonal "axes" for the system we wish to design. OK? Understand so far? Questions/Comments? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized Ray, I may have fallen off the Wagon already .... OK...so the FIRST "hint" about the "secrets of the pyramids" is that there are three distinct "domains" within which we design any sort of system that will possess INTENTION. These THREE domains (the same ones listed in my signature line below) can and are represented in the physical form of the pyramid. In fact, one might say these domains define the set of THREE mutually orthogonal "axes" for the system we wish to design. Is the Pysical Domain in your signature line - a product of the Operational and Functional domain;In that, the product of two orthogonal matrices is another orthogonal matrix (perhaps the analogy that you might use?). So the thrid of the 3 "axes" is a product that has to come into existance because of the combining of the previous two before it... The first manifested 'fundamental' form of intention in the 3rd Dimension is the Pyramid (tetra in this case)? The rest of the system is based from this first Intention. Consciousness within form tracks back to this platonic shape. Also, possibly a return link....? Kindest regards, Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1ex Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized I think I fell off the wagon as well... Where X = Operational y = Functional Z = Physical is this on track or did i fall off he wangon and hit my head way too hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyB Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized I think i may have fallen off the front end of the wagon. Then got run over by the wagon as i hit the floor. "Lets go and hide under a tree until Ray comes back, I dont much like been out in the middle of the road!" awaits RMT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: The THREE Methods - Categorized Ollyb: I may have fallen off the Wagon already wa1ex: is this on track or did i fall off he wangon and hit my head way too hard? Neither of you have fallen off the wagon. In fact, while you may not know it right now, both of you are helping to drive the wagon! :yum: Tell you what: wa1ex, how about you man the throttles and Olly you go about steering, OK? Ollyb:Is the Pysical Domain in your signature line - a product of the Operational and Functional domain; Yes, but let me caution you that this is but ONE (linear) way to interpret the relationship between the Operational, Functional, and Physical design domains. For example I could also describe it as "The Physical (hardware) and the Functional (software) domains come together, and their combined efforts serve to Create the final result in the Operational domain." Not to get ahead of ourselves, but we will come to learn that TIME (uhhh...ahem...as in TIME TRAVEL) is the central focus of the Operational domain. But Olly... your interpretation is interesting because it represents the LINEAR ORDER that design engineers follow when they decide to design any particular system. We first design the system in the Operational (Time & Frequency) domain. From there we have performance data that tells us how to go about designing the system in the Functional domain. Once we have modeled and designed the system Functions, we now have more data that will help us design the Physical elements of the system in the Physical design domain. This is how system design is accomplished in state-of-the-art engineering. In that, the product of two orthogonal matrices is another orthogonal matrix (perhaps the analogy that you might use?). So the thrid of the 3 "axes" is a product that has to come into existance because of the combining of the previous two before it... Again, very astute Olly. You are solidly on the wagon. But let me again say that this is ONE (linear) way to characterize the interrelations of these 3 system domains. But to show you how powerful this type of analogy is for describing any system, let me point out that the EXACT feature that you have pointed out (mathematical combination of two orthogonal dimensions to create a third orthogonal dimension) is the basis for our most famous "linear, 3-models" of science:F = m * aV = I * R E = m * c^2 M = I * alpha P = R * I^2 Any of those look familiar? All of them are scientific instantiations of the combination of Functional with Physical domains. We will discuss how as we move forward. The first manifested 'fundamental' form of intention in the 3rd Dimension is the Pyramid (tetra in this case)? The rest of the system is based from this first Intention. Consciousness within form tracks back to this platonic shape. Now you know why I asked you to steer the wagon, Olly! You're on the right track, but certainly you realize that it is much more complex than what is possible to describe in these few words. And yet in your words you have honed-in on a very important truth about how things combine with other things to create new things. Let's not lose sight of that as we progress.Also, possibly a return link....? Most definitely....without a doubt. Let's state this fact as "the INTENTION to create something in the Operational domain leads to a gathering & organization of energy in the Functional domain, which expresses itself as effort to morph and shape some result in the Physical domain. This result in the Physical domain provides feedback to the Functional domain, which in turn provides feedback to the Operational domain, which finally provides a means for measuring the result of your INTENTION."Consciousness is a closed loop. There is no doubt about that. Any other questions or comments?So far we have Olly and wa1ex fully engaged in our journey on "the wagon". Anyone else out there wanting to help get this wagon moving? New/Improved RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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