# Time Travel Game - Theory

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Time Travel Game:

Hi, I want to play a game with you, I will outline some basic facts and assumptions here and you will help to determine the possible outcomes. If you need the diagrams/pictures to aid you in this exercise then please suggest a place where I can upload them, alternatively post your email address here (if this is allowed) and I will email them (diagrams and text) to you in a word doc.

You are an exceptional scientist with the highest skills in numerous fields (you can decide the fields yourself, what ever you need for the point of this exercise) and are respected throughout the world of science as well as greatly admired for your ability to calculate mathematical equations and puzzles in your mind. Although you have an extraordinary gift to accurately know where you are on the face of the earth at any given moment (as if you had your own built in GPS system) you do not have any paranormal abilities.

You have a wonderful wife and two children who you love more than anything and you would never let anything happen to them or indeed come before them, your home is at the very center of point A.

Let's begin:

Let's assume that the time it takes point A to naturally reach point B with the rotation speed of the Earth is exactly 12 hours or 720 minutes or 43,200 seconds. For arguments sake the time now is exactly 00.00.00.

Note: Points A and B, are not fixed they are rotational but line C is fixed below is diagram 1 to aid the theory:

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In exactly 10 hours at time 10.00.00 the sun will discharge a lethal pulse of energy © unlike anything it has ever done before (as far as we know) that will reach the earth and strike the center of point D (the original point B, diagram 2 below), destroying an area the size of a small town or village and wiping out all previously known communication systems as well as killing thousands of civilians.

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It does exactly the same thing exactly 1 hour later at time 11.00.00 striking point E (diagram 3 below) so we now assume and therefore predict (based on the first two strikes (D and E) and their exact times and points of impact) that it may strike again in another 1 hour (time 12.00.00) at point A (point A would have now completed its 12 hour cycle to reach the line C where 12 hours earlier the original point B would have been).

We would not be able to alter this assumption or make any further predictions until we have more information determined by what occurs at time 12.00.00 at point A, unless of course something else occurs before that time which would create a new point.

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The time is 00.00.00 and you are currently sitting in a cockpit seat with excellent views, onboard a new revolutionary airplane (that your lab has helped to develop) awaiting take off from a top secret airbase just outside of Point A. You are there to monitor the highly sensitive and ultra top secret flight equipments functionality created by and on behalf of your lab.

Your destination (mission) is another top secret airbase just outside of point D; your flight speed will be approximately 400 mph outbound and approximately 800 mph inbound. You will stay at point D for approximately 4 hours before making your return flight to point A.

Your orders are to maintain strict and total radio silence during this mission and your total flight time (from point A to D and back to point A including the time spent in point D airbase) is approximately 12 hours and 30 minutes.

The time is 06.00.00 when you arrive at point D, everything has gone according to plan so far, you make your assessments and debrief a top level welcoming party at point D before returning to the plane and preparing for take off.

The time is 09.59.00 and your plane takes off, whilst the plane is still climbing to your target altitude of 15,000 feet you see what appears to be a huge explosion in the distance where the center of point D is.

The time is 11.00.00 your flight is traveling at 800 mph at an altitude of 15,000 feet (as per your mission requirements) when you see what appears to be another huge explosion in the distance where the center of point E is ahead of you.

The time is 11.15.00 you reach point E and can visually see the devastation over the center, you now begin to calculate all the information in your mind and come up with the same conclusions as we have outlined above.

Although your mission details are to maintain strict radio silence, yours and your crew's family's lives as well as thousands of other lives are now in imminent danger at point A. You decide to break radio silence and contact the airbase at point A; warn them and demand that your families as well as civilians are evacuated to safety.

The time is 11.40.00 and you have not been able to make radio contact with point A airbase or anyone else for that matter. Your airplanes top secret equipment has also analyzed and computed the information its sensors had picked up during the two blasts and determined it was caused by some kind of pulse ray from the sun. To your calculations that pulse will also hit point A in approximately 20 minutes and it appears there is nothing you can do to warn your family or indeed anyone else.

Now, lets presume that there is absolutely nothing you can do from where you are right now to alter the events that by all intensive purposes are still in the future, 20 minutes in the future to be precise. Yes you are technically in the present but from the perspective of point A (point A at 12.00.00) and the fact that you already know what is going to happen at point A in exactly 20 minutes, could we say that technically you are also in the past?

Certainly as far as the final outcome of the events at point A are concerned if you consider that at some point after 12.00.00 and therefore the event, it would make your present time frame of 11.40.00 and your knowledge of those events well and truly in the past.

Now; what about altering the future? Well in your present situation (time, knowledge of events to come) and the fact that you can be considered technically in the 'past' in relation to that event which occurs in 20 minutes, one would think that you could indeed alter some aspects of that future event, saving life's for example and the infinite possibilities those saved lives would have to affect future events thereafter.

But we can establish that you cannot alter or change this outcome (prevention of a future event) due to the present current restrictions on travel and communication, so other than having unconventional methods of travel (a faster form of travel that may enable you to get to point A at 11.42.00 for example) and communication (an ability to pre-warn using some form of physic or paranormal ability that we know you do not possess) you cannot help.

So lets now consider that if you had a faster form of travel or better still your airplane was in fact a 'proto type' time travel machine, but testing that was not part of this mission, would you consider using it?

For the sake of this example we will presume that you did use it and it enabled you to get to point A at 11.40.01 and with the remaining time you had left once you reached there, it was possible to at least save yours and the crew's families even if you were unable to save anyone else.

Then would this not be considered a form of altering some aspects of the future with knowledge you had from the past? and if so, would it stand to reason that theoretically you could also alter past events from the knowledge you had from the future, if it was also possible to travel back in time?

Lets look at a possible example, just as you were about to travel forward to 11.40.01 you suddenly remembered that your time machine could also go back in time, so you decided to go back far enough to warn everyone in points A, D and E and save thousands of lives as opposed to just a few family members belonging to you and the crew. You would now be altering not only the past (events that happened prior to 11.40.00) from the future but also in some respects the future (what occurs at 12.00.00 in relation to your present time of 11.40.00) from the past.

Lets even expand on this more, lets say that you could go back as far as you needed and by doing so calculate and prove that the suns lethal pulse ray was actually caused by factors created here on earth (global warming for example)? Would it then be possible if the whole world undertook and implemented the necessary changes required for averting those factors, to prevent the suns pulse ray from ever happening?

If so, let's now assume you managed to achieve everything you set out to do with the decision you made at 11.40.00 to go back in time, so now you set your course (to go back to your own time zone) for 10.00.00 (the point at which in the future in relation to whatever time in the past you went to achieve the prevention of the suns pulse ray) your airplane was still climbing to your target altitude of 15,000 feet when the first explosion over point D occurred.

But when you get there and at that exact time the explosion fails to occur, you and your crew optimistically determine you must have been successful in preventing it. You then proceed with the original mission and at 11.00.00 you do not encounter the second explosion near point E, you proceed further until you reach your airbase at point A at 12.30.00 with no other occurrences and debrief the whole day's events to your superiors.

Now when you go home to your loving wife and children, what is going to happen?

Is it that as you are walking up the path to your house you see your self mowing the lawn? because you have as some suggest (I read extensively last night about some of your time travel theories, which prompted me to write this post, although it is not the reason I am here, not yet anyway) infinite parallel universes and time lines? And this is not your time line.

If this is then the case, assume after going back in the past in your attempt to avert the suns pulse ray from ever happening, you had to go back even further traveling several or more times to get to the right time zone where it was actually possible to implement the changes required. You could now be in a situation where you possibly could never get back to your own timeline (I use this word as per the theory of multiple timelines) and even if you could you might have changed nothing.

If this is the case the Latin words - A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi â€“ spring to mind and would make time travel a dangerous enterprise for the actual travelers (possibly never getting back to their own timeline) with little or nothing to gain for the people who send them (possibly never seeing the time travelers or the time machine again).

So consider the fact that there may only be one 'time line' the one we are on now and everyone/everything before us and everyone/everything in front of us have and will also be on it. If this is the case then it is possible to alter events both in the past and in the future that can have direct consequences no matter how small or large on this one single time line.

To finish I would like to submit a simple but true example where this is possible:

A physic told police of a series of events that would happen in the future that would help them to prevent a serial killer from killing again. Acting on these events several months later when the lead police officer remembered the physics description of the chain of events, he was able to catch and apprehend the serial killer. In the basement of the killer's house he had; tied and gagged his next victim all ready to be murdered. The killer was jailed and the victim's life had been saved all thanks to the physics claims of events that would occur in the future several months ago in the past.

When interviewed about this from a local newspaper the physic informed the reporter that she was able to transport her mind not only into the future but also into the past, is this a form of time travel? And does the story enable us to gain insight as to how time travel and changing events can be possible? Consequently with results that will have effects on others and indeed our own futures?

Ecce Signum

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"If you need the diagrams/pictures to aid you in this exercise then please suggest a place where I can upload them, alternatively post your email address here (if this is allowed) and I will email them (diagrams and text) to you in a word doc."

I would like to receive the diagrams and texts. thanks.

Can I get some pictures of your time machine too??

-Pamela

Sent,

Thank you.

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got the diagrams. thanks. Yep you really need to have someone find you a place where you can post them because people reading this will not be able to understand the problem without the diagrams.

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i'd appreciate if i could see them. thanks

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ill tell you what, the whole topic is something i think about all the time. if i had a time machine, should i go and save my mother from being murdered? try to save my relationship with my wife?

as much as i want to, i know that chances are that it would change so many things, hence relativity. i would love more than anything to be greedy, but i couldnt accept the fact that i took another mans mother or wife away, or worse...

and about the "mind" time travel: i believe very much so that the mind can do some pretty incredible things. when your torn up inside and just wish you could get away from it all, you hear your favorite song. just what you needed to get by. you get lost in the music and before you know it, several hours have passed by, and you wonder where you went.

but thats just my opinion on it.

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ruthless pictures sent, thank you.

You may want to delete your email now.

Packerbacker - I can not access that link you gave.

Thanks for trying.

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Packerbacker,

I have never done this before but I think I figured it out.

Can you check and see if it looks right to you.

Hope you don't mind ECCE I downloaded the files you gave me on the

Thank you

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If you want to get my Ms Subspace2007, the complete link is www.badongo.com/file/2011740.

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Hello,

It appears enough people have viewed this so I will ask a few questions to prompt some of your views.

1. Do you believe the scenario is plausible?

2. If not what are your reasons?

3. Do you believe that in the scenario the people onboard the plane did indeed alter their own future?

4. Do you believe what they did was right?

5. What would you have done?

6. Can you make any case for a single timeline giving your reasons and using an example if possible?

7. Can you make a case for disproving that there is a single time line giving your reasons?

8. What are your thoughts on String Theory?

9. What are your thoughts on the Big Bang?

10. Do you have any general ideas on what the missing link between the four known forces could be?

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First of all....what's a scientist doing flying an experimental plane? Isn't that a highly trained pilot's job?

What's a lethal pulse of energy from the Sun? A solar flare?

How does one know based on two strikes that it will even strike a third time and at exactly one hour apart? That sounds like a machine not a sun. How is a suns activity even predictable?

Is there some kind of machine measuring an activity that takes a while to surface or peak so that

it can be determined at exactly what hour it will strike again?

A proto type time machine in a plane? Does the crew even have any type of training on how to work it? Forget the space-time physics...do they even know how to turn it on?

Doing what is right is a personal judgement call and it is obviously going to be determined in their superiors eyes once they return. The question I would wonder is are they going to believe them once they get back? Is the info recorded about the sun's activity still going to be there? They took a huge risk. Now they have to look at the outcome and ask was it worth it?

They are obviously going to be very confused for awhile if they have had no training in the area.

Go home to wife and kids right away? I don't think so. That is going to be one long debreifing.

Remember this though...If you are on another worldline how are your superiors going to even know if it wasn't part of your mission to use the time machine? lol (kidding)

On second thought that is only going to work if you have had training on how to use it.

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1. Do you believe the scenario is plausible?

For the purpose of the discussion we are having, yes.The details are a little far-fetched (such as the sun being the source of the distrubances), but it doesn't really matter. I understand the main idea behind your scenario, and it is certainly worthy of discussion. The details are not relevant.

3. Do you believe that in the scenario the people onboard the plane did indeed alter their own future?

No. It does not matter that the crew didn't succeed in maintaining radio contact. The plane still emits radio waves at the speed of light, some of which will reach point A (this is true even if the radio is off, because EVERYTHING emits radio waves). The fact that the crew can't harness these waves to send information, is irelevant.

4. Do you believe what they did was right?

It's impossible to tell without further information.Obviously, saving all these people is a good thing. But what was the price? The crew disobeyed a direct order from their superiors. This is bound to have some consequences. Without knowing why that order was given, it is impossible to say whether what they did was right.

5. What would you have done?

Again, that depends on the exact situation at hand. And quite frankly, I hope that I'll never be forced to make such a decision in real life.

6. Can you make any case for a single timeline giving your reasons and using an example if possible?

The laws of quantum mechanics, when applied to macroscopic objects, do not allow multiple timelines.A classical example is that of a billiard ball which falls into a wormhole and arrives at an earlier point in time. It can be shown, mathematically, that it is not possible to aim the billiard ball in a way which will cause a paradox (i.e. even if the ball hits its earlier "self", it won't prevent the ball from entering the wormwhole in the first place)

7. Can you make a case for disproving that there is a single time line giving your reasons?

The laws of quantum mechanics, when applied to subatomic particles, do allow multiple timelines.If you replace the billiard ball from the previous answer with (say) an electron, it could indeed deflect its earlier self, preventing it from entering the wormhole. The result will be a "mixed" state:

|electron fell through wormhole> + |electron didn't fall through wormhole>

8. What are your thoughts on String Theory?

It's an ingenious idea, but the current implementation is flawed. That's what you get when you mix the experimental data of feeble 20th century experiments with a theory which will become the Theory of Everything. You'll have to wait a century or two, before the pieces of the idea neatly click together.

9. What are your thoughts on the Big Bang?

The first great leap towards the unification of science and religion. Funny thing is, that the fundamentalists continue to attack Big Bang just because they don't like the idea of a 14 billion year old universe. Science have found direct evidence for creation, yet these guys won't put down their swords... Go figure.

10. Do you have any general ideas on what the missing link between the four known forces could be?

It all boils down to the topology of spacetime. For an excellent introduction to these matters, see Michio Kaku's Book "Hyperspace".
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Hello Ecce_Signum:

1. Do you believe the scenario is plausible?

-Dr. LaViolette Theories Scenario: Circa February 19 2012 8:00 EST

2. If not what are your reasons?

There will be a divided timeline (timeline split in two) the first one with the Catastrophe, and the second without it.

3. Do you believe that in the scenario the people onboard the plane did indeed alter their own future?

Yes, but the got to the another timeline....Timeline 2.

4. Do you believe what they did was right?

They don´t know about the changes in timelines, and the subsequent encounter with the Altervues....

15. What would you have done?

Maybe this Planes has a portable "Looking Glass" LG-Tech to "see" the changes before happen... in the timelines...anyway i will activate the Time Travel Device...

6. Can you make any case for a single timeline giving your reasons and using an example if possible?

No, the Timelines are overlapping right now...until 2012

7. Can you make a case for disproving that there is a single time line giving your reasons?

See 6.

8. What are your thoughts on String Theory?

That theory was/or will be remplaced by The subquantum kinetics Theory in this particualr timeline..

9. What are your thoughts on the Big Bang?

See 8

10. Do you have any general ideas on what the missing link between the four known forces could be?

Again "subquantum kinetics", Model G equations, etheron dynamics...

--

Regards

LG Tech 2T 2012

The Anunaki, Enki, Atlantean S-M or Lumerian L-M Starship parked on the moon?

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Ecce,

The scenario isn't plausible.

What you propose is that the Sun shoots out what for all practicle purposes is a ultra-high energy laser that only strikes a tiny portion of the sunward hemisphere of the Earth. And the blast only destroys a speck of the surface and doesn't interrupt all electromagnetic fields on the planet causing radio and electrical blackouts.

Thereafter the Sun not only shoots out hourly laser bursts but it seems to have a targeting computer on-board. The Earth is revolving around the Sun at ~29.5 km/s. Each hour it's ~104,400 km from where it was the previous hour. The Sun somehow adjusts its aim and hits the Earth again.

The matter of "to communacte" or "to not communicate" should be moot even with the laser scenario. A bolt of electromagnetic energy, powerful enough to destroy a city, slogging through the atmosphere would render communications impossible. The EMP would fry electronics on half of the globe - the sunward half.

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Hello Everyone,

As I have mentioned in a previous post-reply I have been away for a while. Please accept my apologies for these late replies.

PamelaM217 â€“ Wrote:

'First of all....what's a scientist doing flying an experimental plane? Isn't that a highly trained pilot's job?'

â€¢ Firstly I did not say the Scientist was flying the plane and secondly it is not inconceivable that a scientist in this realm of science could also be a pilot.

'What's a lethal pulse of energy from the Sun? A solar flare?'

â€¢ This is not really relevant for the purpose of grasping the exercise, however a 'solar flair', an 'Alien firing a laser gun' or just 'freakish bad luck' are possible sources of the energy.

'How does one know based on two strikes that it will even strike a third time and at exactly one hour apart? That sounds like a machine not a sun. How is a suns activity even predictable?

Is there some kind of machine measuring an activity that takes a while to surface or peak so that

it can be determined at exactly what hour it will strike again?'

â€¢ It is an assumption based on the calculation of strikes 1 and 2 and their respective exact times and geographical locations.

'A proto type time machine in a plane? Does the crew even have any type of training on how to work it? Forget the space-time physics...do they even know how to turn it on?'

â€¢ I believe we can assume with a high degree of certainty that indeed the crew do have sufficient training to fly this particular aircraft especially in light of the fact that they do indeed fly it and certainly for the purpose of this exercise.

'Doing what is right is a personal judgment call and it is obviously going to be determined in their superiors eyes once they return'

â€¢ Doing what is right although 'sometimes' a personal judgment is by far more accurately assessed by moral standards.

If I personally believed it was right to murder my neighbor for no reason this would not make it right, it would be a crime against the mass opinion based on moral standards that we abide by and subject to punishment under laws designed around those standards.

However if my neighbor was a serial killer and I had found out and then decided to murder him, although this would bring a great number of moral sympathy on my side it would still be against the laws created around the original opinion and of course 'Gods' laws.

'The question I would wonder is are they going to believe them once they get back? Is the info recorded about the sun's activity still going to be there?'

â€¢ To be believed in a scenario I listed would be difficult unless all the data from the planes equipment was in tact and could support the claim.

Without any data in this day and age belief is redundant, Just look at the claims (although practically 100% bogus) of time travelers here. No physical data to substantiate their claims, which begs the question of why would they want to be believed if it were true anyway.

A fundamental question here must be that if indeed a real time traveler was here in our time and wanted someone to know he was a 'real time traveler' then would we be the ones he would attempt to convince?

Would he not prefer to visit a research center that has an interest in these matters or visit a scientist that is predominant in this field and submit information that could unequivocally prove beyond doubt his claims?

The most plausible explanation must be based around the 'tourist time traveler scenario' as this offers no reason for traveling here apart from a vacation and this scenario is also littered with inconsistencies.

Why travel to 2007 for a vacation from the future unless you wanted to visit family here and if you wanted to do that one would have to presume their must be a genuine reason for doing so.

Let's say we went back in time (from this point in time) to visit our great great grandparents, what reception do you think we would get? Would they welcome us in with open arms or call the local police and have us committed.

Who knows?

But the practical implications of just visiting family for no other reasons than a vacation just do not make sense compared with the possible negative overall effects of the visit.

The only real explanation that is credible and for this reason time travelers here in our time can not be ruled out 100% is that they are collecting data that must be useful and/or unobtainable from their point in time in the future. They need to collect this data from 'john does' (such as all of us here) without alerting any government or scientific facilities of their presence.

But one could presume that they would spend their time asking questions and not so much answering them or designing methods to obtain the information other than just researching it on the internet.

Practical questions lead to practical answers and an ounce of practical knowledge is worth a ton of theoretical knowledge.

'They took a huge risk. Now they have to look at the outcome and ask was it worth it?'

â€¢ Personally I believe in the scenario I listed the 'was it worth it' factor is quite obvious, they saved thousands of lives and prevented the catastrophe from ever happening. Possibly more importantly (from their personal perspective) they saved the lives of their families, negating the consideration for obeying or abiding by any orders or instructions they may have received from their superiors.

'They are obviously going to be very confused for awhile if they have had no training in the area. Go home to wife and kids right away? I don't think so. That is going to be one long debriefing'

â€¢ In any situation similar to the one listed I would imagine there would be considerable confusion and possibly even disbelief within ones self ('I can't believe I just did that' factor). However the section about going home to ones wife applies no matter how long the debriefing takes.

â€¢ They would have to go home sometime and if you believe in 'Multiple TimeLine's you would still possibly be faced with the same question as I stated.

Sigo2507 â€“ Wrote:

'3. Do you believe that in the scenario the people onboard the plane did indeed alter their own future?

No. It does not matter that the crew didn't succeed in maintaining radio contact. The plane still emits radio waves at the speed of light, some of which will reach point A (this is true even if the radio is off, because EVERYTHING emits radio waves). The fact that the crew can't harness these waves to send information is irrelevant.'

â€¢ Thank you for the technical clarification, however it has nothing to do with the question.

'4. Do you believe what they did was right?

It's impossible to tell without further information.

Obviously, saving all these people is a good thing. But what was the price? The crew disobeyed a direct order from their superiors. This is bound to have some consequences. Without knowing why that order was given, it is impossible to say whether what they did was right'

â€¢ I find it difficult to believe that you are considering the 'orders of superiors' when you evaluate if they indeed did the right thing in this scenario?

Question: Would you consider orders from your boss (No matter what type of boss Army, Navy, Government or Civilian) when making moral or physical choices that effect either the general mass or your families well being?

'6. Can you make any case for a single timeline giving your reasons and using an example if possible?

The laws of quantum mechanics, when applied to macroscopic objects, do not allow multiple timelines.'

'7. Can you make a case for disproving that there is a single time line giving your reasons?

The laws of quantum mechanics, when applied to subatomic particles, do allow multiple timelines.'

â€¢ I am sorry I do not understand your answers? It seems you are offering examples to explain how multiple 'Time Line's' do not exist and then how they do exist?

Surely there should only be one answer, do they or do they not and when you have concluded your answer offer reason for the conclusion.

recall15 â€“ Wrote:

1. Do you believe the scenario is plausible?

-Dr. LaViolette Theories Scenario: Circa February 19 2012 8:00 EST

â€¢ I am sorry I am not familiar with this, is it a link to your answer of whether or not you believe the scenario is plausible?

2. If not what are your reasons?

There will be a divided timeline (timeline split in two) the first one with the Catastrophe, and the second without it

3. Do you believe that in the scenario the people onboard the plane did indeed alter their own future?

Yes, but the got to the another timeline....Timeline 2.

4. Do you believe what they did was right?

They don´t know about the changes in timelines, and the subsequent encounter with the Altervues....

15. What would you have done?

Maybe this Planes has a portable "Looking Glass" LG-Tech to "see" the changes before happen... in the timelines...anyway i will activate the Time Travel Device...

â€¢ Noted, you believe in Multiple Time Line's.

6. Can you make any case for a single timeline giving your reasons and using an example if possible?

No, the Timelines are overlapping right now...until 2012

â€¢ Please expand on this answer; you believe the Time Line's are overlapping until the dates you give. What happens to the Time Line's during that time period?

7. Can you make a case for disproving that there is a single time line giving your reasons?

See 6.

â€¢ See above also.

8. What are your thoughts on String Theory?

That theory was/or will be remplaced by The subquantum kinetics Theory in this particualr timeline..

9. What are your thoughts on the Big Bang?

See 8

â€¢ How does a 'replacement' of the 'string theory' effect your views on the 'Big Bang'?

Darby â€“ Wrote:

The scenario isn't plausible.

What you propose is that the Sun shoots out what for all practicle purposes is a ultra-high energy laser that only strikes a tiny portion of the sunward hemisphere of the Earth. And the blast only destroys a speck of the surface and doesn't interrupt all electromagnetic fields on the planet causing radio and electrical blackouts.

Thereafter the Sun not only shoots out hourly laser bursts but it seems to have a targeting computer on-board. The Earth is revolving around the Sun at ~29.5 km/s. Each hour it's ~104,400 km from where it was the previous hour. The Sun somehow adjusts its aim and hits the Earth again.

The matter of "to communacte" or "to not communicate" should be moot even with the laser scenario. A bolt of electromagnetic energy, powerful enough to destroy a city, slogging through the atmosphere would render communications impossible. The EMP would fry electronics on half of the globe - the sunward half.

â€¢ Thank you for the technical information regarding the Sun. However I feel your answer misses the point.

â€¢ The scenario is there to demonstrate a possible situation where by 'traveling in time' may be required and how by doing so would affect ones own future by changing the past. Indeed it also offers information on how it is possible to affect the future by altering the present.

â€¢ I could have said that there was an Alien shooting a laser gun at the earth at those exact coordinates and times. It's purely to demonstrate a requirement, followed by a decision based on the capability of making a decision such as the one required to alter the events.

â€¢ I would advise that if you wish to technically debunk the scenario you should focus your attention on the points of relevance and show caution to ensure you do not miss the general point.

The point of the exercise is to demonstrate and hopefully help you understand in as simple as possible terms that I can, how time travel can be used and in what instances you can alter events in the future.

Multiple 'Time Line's' do not exist in the context you understand, there is but one past, present and future.

When scientists are clearly able to understand this and detour their present attention of 'attempting to create alternative scenarios purely for the purpose of substantiating their own theories' the scientific world will move a step closer to understanding Time Travel in general.

As I have previously mentioned the scientific community will receive assistance in this by way of a discovery made on Earth. It will be one of the deciding factors in helping them to make a leap of faith in other directions initiated from a new understanding and belief.

Thank you all for participating.

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You have a wonderful wife and two children who you love

I get bored trying to read your post. Can you take out all the games and nonsense and just ask a simple question?
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bogz - Wrote:

I get bored trying to read your post. Can you take out all the games and nonsense and just ask a simple question?

I am sorry if my questions are too difficult for you to follow, but a 'simple question' is not easy to define.

To gauge ones accuracy in asking a 'simple question' one would first need to determine the intelligence ratio's of the questioner in comparison to the questioned or recipients of the question.

A question such as 'where do you come from' or 'what is your name' may be considered simple questions for example, but if either of those questions were directed at a Chimpanzee then the question becomes 'difficult' does it not.

One must also consider when asking questions to a general audience such as on a forum, that not all of the readers will be able to comprehend the actual question. Therefore consideration must be apportioned in respect of the questioner's intentions.

If the questioner is aware of that fact then one can now presume that the received answers/comments the questioner is most interested in are the answers/comments from the people who can actually understand the question or at the very least from people who attempt to understand it or indeed seek further clarification.

So as much as I would like to attempt to scale down my questions into a more 'simple' format for you to understand, it would defeat the object of me asking the question.

I have read several of your posts since I read your comments here and it seems you have posted more than your fair share of derogatory or dismissive comments. May I suggest you refrain from reading my posts and most certainly from replying to them, I am not of a medical or psychological background but it may help with your boredom?

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I am sorry if my questions are too difficult for you to follow, but a 'simple question' is not easy to define.

Actually I don't know if they are simple. I haven't bothered to read them because the post is so long and boring. I never said they were too difficult, you jumped the gun there. A little "premature" I guess. Patience, bra.

To gauge ones accuracy in asking a 'simple question' one would first need to determine the intelligence ratio's of the questioner in comparison to the questioned or recipients of the question.

Not at all, use simple grammar, compress it down to one sentence, tackle one question at a time. That makes it easy for busy people to contribute. It also makes it harder for us to tell how much spare time you have.I'll give you an example. Instead of this long winded response :

I am sorry if my questions are too difficult for you to follow, but a 'simple question' is not easy to define.

To gauge ones accuracy in asking a 'simple question' one would first need to determine the intelligence ratio's of the questioner in comparison to the questioned or recipients of the question.

A question such as 'where do you come from' or 'what is your name' may be considered simple questions for example, but if either of those questions were directed at a Chimpanzee then the question becomes 'difficult' does it not.

One must also consider when asking questions to a general audience such as on a forum, that not all of the readers will be able to comprehend the actual question. Therefore consideration must be apportioned in respect of the questioner's intentions.

If the questioner is aware of that fact then one can now presume that the received answers/comments the questioner is most interested in are the answers/comments from the people who can actually understand the question or at the very least from people who attempt to understand it or indeed seek further clarification.

So as much as I would like to attempt to scale down my questions into a more 'simple' format for you to understand, it would defeat the object of me asking the question.

I have read several of your posts since I read your comments here and it seems you have posted more than your fair share of derogatory or dismissive comments. May I suggest you refrain from reading my posts and most certainly from replying to them, I am not of a medical or psychological background but it may help with your boredom?

Try saying this next time?

I'm smart, you're dumb

See how I compressed the essence of your response into one line? Try it like that, bra.
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