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Darby I have no clue what your talking about. post a link and I may read it.

 

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PS: Titorite - did you actually read 2156 hrs. post before (or after) posting it? Much of it is almost unintelligible.

 

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Ah, you did get it. Thank you for cleaning it up. Know it makes sense.
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Titors story can be proven as false two ways. The short way is for the hoaxer to come forward and verify himself with his own hard drive or through Pam or both.

You are confusing the distinction between the story itself, and who told the story. What you are suggesting would not necessarily falsify the story. It would merely let you ascertain who told the story. And the very fact of the way the story was setup with "only Pamela" knowing Titor's "special song" is one form of unfalsifiability built into the story.

 

The Long way is to wait and see. Ultimatly, if C.E.R.N. fails to produce an artifical singularity or fails to utilize artifical singularites in the creation of a time machine then Titor will be proven false.

If this is your criteria for falsification (which is really not falsifying, given the other loopholes), this has already been done. You see, you wish to ignore the fact of the timing that Titor used for when CERN would create microsingularities. His own statements of that timeline already show he was wrong. If he was in this timeline, he could have done a little homework to figure out that even while he was posting it was well-known that the LHC at CERN would not be completed and online any time before 2007. But that is not the only place where the Titor story itself has already been tripped up. The next "official Olympics" did, actually, occur. There was no massive civil disobedience surrounding the last presidential election. There has been no civil war in 2004 or 2005. And no weekly Waco-like events. How many more missed predictions do you need (or wish to ignore)?

Honestly, I think you need to spend some time studying falsifiability, because you are clearly not understanding the scientific definition or its application. I'd bet Darby would even validate what I am saying with regard to Titor's story not being falsifiable. There is a loophole for anything, with the grandaddy of them all being "timeline divergence" (which he never defined).

 

What are you gonna do when america doesn't attend the 2008 olympics? Are you gonna say it was another lucky guess?

And as if all the above were not enough, then we have "true believers" like you who insist upon modifying Titor's predictions, which it seems you attempt to do right here. Could you please show me anywhere Titor said that the USA will not attend the 2008 Olympics? Hell, even show me where Titor said "2008 Olympics". He didn't. His precise words that referenced the end of the Olympics were as follows: "there were no official Olympics after 2004." So for a person such as yourself, who seems to wish to point to mathematics and science (which you cannot quote nor explain), you seem awfully loosy goosy with Titor's precise words. In fact, I would even suspect that you are trying to re-interpret his words to give them more leeway. But that just won't work.

You need much more attention to detail if you expect reasonable people to believe what you are putting out there on this forum.

 

 

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Wow, the happenings of 2012 have been known for thousands of years....at anyrate, time travel is impossible.

 

Just think about it

 

in simple terms:

 

You are a poor man. You realize that you could have invested in something and made millions, so you go back in time and invest. This causes you to be rich, which means in the "future" you dont need to go back in time to make yourself get rich in the first place, which would be impossible, and therefore you would rip a hole in the fabric of space and time and end existence.

 

 

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Indazona, I consider you an unreasonable person. So I do not expect you to believe what I am saying. You disreguard things like freespeech zones and the Patriot act. You only believe the physics that support your world view.

 

In fact I would say you are wasteing your time responding to me. You might be better entertained at www.randi.org

 

 

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Matt, You are not familer with the Titor story. There is no such thing as paradox. Basicly the multiple worlds theory is correct. You can never travel back into your own timeline nor can you return to your exact timeline once you have left the original. HOWEVER you can travel along timeslines that so closely resemble your original that the differences hardly matter.

 

As for 2012...Right now I think only me and a few select others I know of are aware of the 2012 event..And we all reached the same conclusion by going over Titors posts and trying to figure out what the 2012 event was..He said something would happen but that he choose not to speak of something that nobody could do anything about...not to mention he would never talk about something that would allow us to avoid death by probablility... We the lucky ones were just smart enough to figure it out. And who knows maybe thats exactly what titor thought was the right thing to do...leave just enough information to save the smart and let the rest remain on thier paths to destruction.

 

 

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im still kinda under the impression that time travels impossible. the reason being is that every single tt claim has now been proven a hoax, even titor.

 

im sure that you could reach an alternate dimension (supposing there are any alternate dimensions) through a black hole or something like that. and then, you wouldnt go to any time in the past or future, itd still be present even in the other dimension.

 

if time travel were possible, you could revert time all the way to the big bang, alter the big bang, and alter the entire universe.

 

on another note, magic is the art of illusion and deception. i could very easily make a story, make videos and physical evidence, and have everyone on earth believe i was a time traveler. but that still wouldnt make me a time traveler, now would it? :)

 

the universe has no modifier to reverse of fast forward time like a vcr. 'nuff said.

 

 

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Ruthless...Why are you so certian that Titor has been proven a fake?...Somebody here said it would be signifigant if Titor spoke of something insiginfigant and it happened THEN they would be impressed. When I learned from Darby that someone HAD written the poem "a soldiers winter" I myself was impressed. If it was named a soldiers summer or a soldeers fall or autum..He would of been wrong. If the poem was called A warriors winter he would of been wrong...If a civilian had written the Poem "a soldiers winter" instead of a soldier he would of been wrong...but he wasn't wrong. It was written in 2005/06 (the author could not remember exactly) and it was written by a soldier....and thier are no historical poems called "a soldiers winter"

 

A cold reader could say " there is somebody in this room who had a father pass away recently" A cold reader could not say "Larry Cluck died of cardiac arrest who here had a father named Larry Cluck?" Out of the infinity of titles and profesions he could of choosen Titor got both right.

 

Theres alot to be said for that.

 

 

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Come now...I have posted on that thread since post three or four....All I see is someone contacted her God knows it could of been BRA or itcould of been a crank..God knows that she will probably have many people messing with her as the years roll on. And what did she do except be kind and open minded?

 

But ruthless if you have empherical proof PM people tell us let the Truth ring out....or else let the debate continue...and I dont like to debate I just believe in defending what I see as truth.

 

 

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i understand that you see it as truth. believe me, i wish more folks were like titor, and i wish that titors story was true. as a matter of fact, i wish that i wouldve been here from the beggining. i promise this would not have gone on for the length that it has. im not saying i'm better than anyone, but my line of questioning wouldve been more... direct. look up joseph kasukagan or whatever his names posts, youll see what i mean.

 

 

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about the magma flow among other things,

 

ok, who all thinks the earth is a balloon and if it gets poked, bursts and zips around?

 

were you aware that there are people who believe that the earth is hollow? they even think beings live there, and that may be where atlantis is. i dont believe this, but there are some that do.

 

i, on the other hand, know that certain places are extremely pressurized, but there are alot of things folks arent taking into consideration. for instance, volcanoes usually spew so much ash because of the small diameter of the hole, and the extremem pressure. when/if yellowstone ever blows, the entire park will cave in, creating a massive hole. there will be no spewing and so forth. im sure there will be some ash, but nothing like what people are thinking, in my opinion. the diameter of the predicted hole, and the amount of pressure there tells me that its gonna be a dud, and it will have nowhere near enough psi to send ash high enough into the atmosphere. but alas, im no supervolcano expert, so feel free to make your own decision.

 

now, about the magma flow reversing: if the magma flow reverses, then thatd mean the magma would depressurize? or that the magma from the north would go to the south and vice versa? makes no sense to me, how would either make every voclano in the world "pop?" and if every volcano in the world popped at once, theres not enough pressure inside the earth to push em all. so it would be more like tons of volcanoes "oozing."

 

i'll give an example, imagine poking a knife into a tire. the tire makes a loud pop, and air rushes out of the small hole at great velocity for a minute or longer. much like a volcano. now, cut the tire all the way around the rim in one motion. you will hear a much smaller gurgle, and the tire will deflate in less than a second. its funny that the same theory that proved titor wrong to me also proved this wrong.

 

now, i have a question or two for everyone predicting an impending doom.

 

why are you so optimistic that these bad things will happen? do yall know that fear only reduces the quality of life, causes mental and health problems, and so on and so forth?

 

do yall realize that yall believe life as we know it will end in 5 years, yall believe this whole heartedly, and your wasting that last 5 years of good times here? cmon now...

 

i can understand peoples paranoia, but man... its not going to be that big of a deal. worry more about the solar maximum. that is something that is actually forecast to happen in 2012, and when it does, electronics as we know it, will be toast. a super volcano aint so bad if you have purified water, electricity, and an ac/heater with filtration. sure you use tons of filters, but your airs clean.

 

yes the solar maximum will cause chaos. but life will be back to normal 5 years after that. its a guarantee.

 

and i would bet good money that we do not see a supervolcano in our lifetime. after all, yellowstone hasnt blown yet. unless you count those itsy vents ;) any takers?

 

if you still worry about a supervolcano after this post, then i beg of you one thing to ponder on. how many years has it been since the last supervolcano?

 

either way, i lose more sleep over theives, gangs, low life mofos, and occasionally the government ;)

 

im tired, i think way too much...

 

 

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mmmmmyes I have heard about the hollow earth theory. Byrd wrote some strange things in his diary..god knows why and even less concern themselves with it.

 

as for the caldera...yellowstone isn't it...I like to think of yellowstone not as a tire but as a pimple. Pimples of the earth. Yellowstone is like an oozing pimple that you can't quite pop because all the puss is already on the surface leaking out semi constantly. The TOBA area is like a tight pimple..building with presure..especialy ever since the 04 9.0 quake where the over hang fell onto the bottom. It lightened the load on top and increased the weight on bottom makeing the subduction gap bigger so that the larger chuck of rock could go under and return to magma quicker....rapidly increasing presure...which we be realeased even more rapidly...I am not optimistic about it... I do not say good about any bad thing. 911 was an inside job but you will never find me saying that someone found a "good " peice of evidence...awsome,powerful,important, but never "good" nothing good happened on 911. We in america live in tyranny and only a hand full understand this but when some one new does It is never cool or good...it is a heart breaker.

 

These are the last five years of sun. Not the last five years of life. Life goes on. Always has always does. ....As for your ponderings of yellowstone and caldera...I think yellowstone may have been the last caldera..the most recent one. The erath has a record of extinction on a timetable...scientists say an astroid hits us every few million years...and that the hits trigger massive euruptions....what junk science...isn't it just more likely that the earth eurpts every now and again on a regular time table with out the aid of metors? Such massive eurptions that is covers the earth blots the sun makes life hard on herbavors but carnivors survive no problem...

 

Im a logical guy. I apply the theory of sherlock holms to life. After you disreguard every answer what your left with no matter how absurd is the answer. ... If you find that IP let the world know. My life wouldn't be a waste either way..god knows without it I never would of invested in a rife machine which I consider best investment of my life and two other peoples lives...So im better for it no matter what..but if it is all a lie. I wanna know with out a doubt. If it was all a hoax then I gotta stop prepareing for survival and get my ass to Ed Browns place and do my part to instigate a civil war.. lord knows that warrentless wiretap, freespeech zone, patriot act stuff needs to stop

 

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well, really cant argue with that. but this...

 

"If it was all a hoax then I gotta stop prepareing for survival and get my ass to Ed Browns place and do my part to instigate a civil war.. lord knows that warrentless wiretap, freespeech zone, patriot act stuff needs to stop"

 

may i ask why you think a civil war will make it stop? i think you know that theres nowhere near enough supporters and sympathizers to your cause, unless you want to go with the worse devil, which is terrorism. sure, you can use them to get what you want, but afterwards theyre going to behead you cause allah told em so. there is a way to stop all the bad that the government does, but people dont want to unite. they want to be divided until they have to unite. people are in what i call "the rush" its kinda like taking speed. people get so involved in so many things, that they think something that happened last week happened 6 months ago. their perception of time is totally different than mine. i try to always keep a clear mind, and a clear heart, take my time, and do it with honor and pride. that is one reason why i never leave my home, because the world in general clouds mens minds.

 

 

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Whoa its not good to stay indoors all day.. as for terrorists...no friend..the terrorists are BULL. www.wtc7.net if you still believe in terrorists your either watching fox news or reading fox news. don't trust fox...in fact don't trust the News www.wtc7.net there are so many of us willing to goto war..basicly every ron paul supporter you know. If ron paul should fail or fall we will not www.wtc7.net visit the website and ask the hard questions...and accept truth.

 

 

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also the fact that the bbc reported one of the wtc buildings falling a little early. the pbs thing of the owner admitting the smaller building was "pulled." the witnesses that said it sounded like bombs, the people trapped inside the stairwell saying they heard a bomb. a metal building burning down from jet fuel that was used up the second the plane hit. the fuel went poof! the videotape from the gas station pointed towards the pentagon. the fact that the hole wasnt big enough for a plane to fit. the fact that parts were found that were not from that type of aircraft. etc... theres too much to list.

 

 

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