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Although, I do not wish to take sides in this argument. TTA if you re-read what you quoted, you will notice something.


(Have you considered the possible adverse consequences the person might face that you had post them for you since you remain covert? or don't you care since it is not your world line. what about the people that read the information and attempt to build one? what if they get injured in the process because they are not knowledgeable enough to handle the forces they are playing with at this "time".)


Yes, I have considered it but it is very easy to remain hidden behind a veil of disbelief. The people who understand what they are seeing are not aggressive. Everyone else just finds them entertaining. The obvious first answer is that the only world line of consequence is my own and I don’t care what happens here. That however, is not the case. I have shown these documents in order that people might consider the possibility. I do not expect people to believe them.


TT_0 says that the obvious first answer to the question is that he must not care for what happens on any worldline except for his own. But notice immediately after that sentence he says that is not however the case. That the true answer is that he just wanted people to consider the possibility and that is why he posted the material. He never says that the only time line he cared to protect was his own.



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i dont understand why all these people are like 'TT_0 touched me and opened my eyes to the world'..


and TT_0 seems to change his opinion of the people of "this" time every other post of his.


first he despised us,now he admires us for shaping the things to come??




PS No tt_0 no questions were directed toward you in the making of this post.



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It has been fascinating to read your insights on the social flaws during this time period. Since you are not a part of this society (or at least new to it) it is more obvious for you than many of us.


Your observations strike a deep meaning with me, because I've spent the last 4 years writing a science fiction audio drama about the greed of humanity around the year 2000.


What disturbs me is that, yes, there are many who understand these problems of greed. Most of us know it exists, but cannot attribute the source. Some think greed is the necessary thread which tightly holds our economy together. There are the many that just accept greed as the normal way of life, even though they know there is something wrong about it. Action is never taken to fix the mindset of what money is really for.


There are always those who enjoy cheating, weaseling, and playing tricks to gain false respect. Those people thrive on knowing how to get ahead. As long as they win their steadfast race to personal satisfaction, they will always influence others. It doesn't matter how many of us become outward, collective, and self-less... the greedy individuals will always rise.


So TimeTravel_0, having lived through the self destruction of the human race, what sort of future do you imagine after 2036? Will humans colonolize and expand through the solar system?


Or will we be forever bound to our inward existance, measuring the past, fearfull of the future.



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With, I hope... *smiling*


Life is short and battles need to be chosen with care...


*little shrug* There are few concepts in my life I expend emotional energy on... The important ones gain my full attention. I simply believe that everyone has something to contribute...even if we do not like it...agree with it... or even understand it.


A personal value I hold.


Anything that challenges me to think beyond what I thought yesterday..opens doors for me now and tomorrow *little smile*


*little shrug*


Life is good *grin*


Be safe and dream sweetly.





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That's very nice of you Trott, answering for TT_0. But I'm sure he's a big boy now and can answer his own post, thank you very much.



By being the eccentric & aggravating guy in this community, do you mean the guy that brings up things that are in opposition to the common ideals of this board? Then sure, if you wish to define my actions like that, I really don't care.


As long as I am aware that what I am doing is looking at things from both sides, and advocating freedom. What people say won't make me give in to your followers.


You can tell which ones they are by reading their posts. All this praise, like if you were some God.


And further more, it's a good thing you don't know what my voice sounds like. Or you'd criticize the way I pronounce things too, because I have a slight accent.


After all, I am fluent in Spanish and English. Spanish is my native tongue though. And it's pretty hard to lose it, look at Ricky Martin, and Antonio Banderas.


See Me here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/9822/pic8x.jpg



There's not much we know about you. You made a little comment about your life, but that's just it. No real insight as to who is giving this wisdom (since your so good at giving it). Don't you think we must first know who is giving it? And how has it helped you? You just preach, even church preaches give examples about their lives and others how it's helped them. Think about doing that, might make your posting seem less creepy (at times) and make your words more effective.


Gotta Go,

Javier C.



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Nahhh I'll read. Observe. ... and draw my own conclusions based upon what is presented here. Like many others, I gleen alot out of everyone's postings.


I am a nobody *little smile* If others gleen something from my sporadic postings...wonderful...if not...not.


Be safe and dream sweetly.





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To borgus


Greed is a compass that points to The Conspiracy. It is a conspiracy of secrecy to hide/deny the fact that Homosapiens are as a species SELF-PREDITORY. Period.


Oops! I just spilled the beans. Ah, what the heck we all know the truth, we are just a little shy in admitting it.



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eah TT_0, OK.


I'll go ahead and run with the way you want to tell it.


You are obviously a thinker on social issues, a contemplator of paradox, and hypothesizer of possibilities.


Correct me if I'm wrong here but I see you as a Libertarian who expounds on the need for humanity to get back to certain basics. Like the issues defined by the Constitution and your comments earlier on firearms tend to make me believe you are a Gun Rights activist.


So, no critisism intended here but...

(and you know I see your scenario as pure fiction on your part), could you give us your thoughts on how us "less enlightened" ones here in this worldline of the here/now can solve the technical problems of time travel so that we may be able to enjoy the same first hand knowledge you have that gives you these social insights?


I mean, EVERYBODY hates a tease right?





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Mr. TT_0,

Let us assume you are a time traveller. I do not see any viable way for you to return to your own time line then. I say this because that you mentioned the difficulty with time travel in the sense of divergences. You said that you travelled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable. Now if I understand your plan, you say you will once again travel back to 1975 before you arrived and then go forward as to avoid going into the future of our time line, which by your presence here would be an alternate future from your own. But what I would ask is, if you plan to go back to 1975 from 2000, you should incur a certain non-zero percent divergence just as you did going from 2036 to 1975. I would surmize that it is impossible or technologically improbable for you to go back to the exact world line you departed from then. Even if you are able to travel back with a 0% divergence, which by your previous words would be mythological, what would ensure you that the future you travelled into was exactly the world line you left. Since there are an infinite number of possible world lines departing from 1975 into the future. I suppose the key point of this argument is that any trip through time with your technology would result in a non-zero divergence, and in order for you to arrive in your own world line you must create a 0% divergent trip. This is amusing in the sense that the harder you try to get to your own world line the more divergences you incur and hence the furthur away you get. I believe I see the birth of a new temporal paradox.



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OH great. good going guys! now we will have a whole page of just rgrunt's postings,double and tripled spaced with seperating topics and paragraphs and chapter numbers! HAHA


just joking,Rgrunt your postings are very interesting.


TTO-thankyou for answering my questions.



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Hey Everyone!! While I've been following this thread from the beginning and even conveyed a few thoughts on the topic matter as it evolved, I have been, for the most part, been following the topic discussion to TTO's answers to everyones questions. I have come to a couple conclusions. First of all I want to commend TTO for provoking much thoughtfull and insightfull discussion on, even the probability much less the possability that what he says is true. And I would like to commend those that treated this topic discussion with respectful scrutiny and thought provoking questions for TTO. I understand that for TTO to reveal himself as a time traveler in this timeline on this board was a matter of great risk on his part and I commend him for it!! Who are we to say he's not for real!!! Being a Druid MAGI I've also conveyed thoughts and realities that have fallen upon great scrutiny and rightly so. It is when we stop asking how and why that we are truely doomed as a race!! We have to open our minds and get peoples heads out of the sands of disbelief and ignorance, only then can we truely be ready for the next level, as a race. Individually, some are already at the doorway of the next level!! As a race there's too much hate and greed for this to happen on an evolutionary scale for a while. That is a sad state of affairs!!


As far as I'm concerned, GODSPEED TTO!!!!




Draco the Druid



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That was funny,


Now that I will be double spacing my posts


this string should be twenty pages long


within the next couple of days making


everyone think that there is something


really interesting being discussed on this


string. Just one question, once this string


of pages is long enough to be a book who


reserves the right to become a million-uhh-I


mean author of the book?


Ha Ha!


Edwin G. Schasteen



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that is amazing. I read a book entitled "Druids" by an Irish female author, I don't remember the name. The story was set back in roman times and was based on the early life of a chief druid by the name Ainvar...meaning 'one who travels far'.


The events in the story were centered around the conflict between celts and the romans. The story finishes off with the defeat of the celts by the romans in one fantastic battle.


I was going to ask if you have ever heard of the story of Ainvar in the order? Is this a true story based on history or is it just a fictional book?




Edwin G. Schasteen


p.s. Is this ok for double spacing?



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Hey RGUNT!! Actually I believe I may have read the same book you did.. I don't have the book anymore and it's been along time since I read it... The final battle resulted in the Celtic Cheiftain being put in chains and taken back to rome, where the drug him through the streets and stuck what was left of him on a pig pole... As far as a Druid from the Order named Ainvar it sounds familar but the true spellings of names was fully contingent on what language you are using....


~ Draco



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