Where was Titor born?

[SamuelT]

Where and when was John Titor born? Please give me the exact answer he gave you, I would appreciate it greatly. Just want to check reliability.

 

Sam.

 

 

[DCLXVI]

I can't find an exact date (and i don't have the time to sort through all the posts to look for one) but Titor was born sometime before July 27,1998, the day 38 year old Titor showed up at his parent's house. Reading the introduction to "John Titor - A Time Traveler's Tale" states that in January of 2003 Titor was 5 years old, meaning his birth date falls somewhere between Jan 1997 and Jan 1998. In one of his posts, Titor specifically states he was born in 1998, narrowing a birthday down to sometime in January 1998. As for location, it's somewhere in Florida where he lived up until 1999.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

[Kanigo2]

John Titor states to have been born in 1998 in Tampa, Florida USA. (Note: This is the first controversy that appears about the truthfulness of his accounts due to the fact that investigations carried out by his supporters show of no family with that surname that lived in Tampa during that period).

 

Source:

 

http://www.time-travel-portal.org/st-001.htm

 

It doesn't matter what site you go to it will always be the same story.

 

I did not speak to him personally.

 

Exactly what were you trying to reliably check?

 

 

[Darby]

SamuelT,

 

Here's part of Titor's post on 6-FEB-2001 ("I am from 2036", Post-2-Post ):

 

Posted by John Titor on 02-06-2001 06:35 AM

Yes I am with the 'me' on this worldline and he is three now. I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don't bring it up directly. This is the second time I have 'met myself'.

(Italic added)When Titor started posting in November of 2000 he said that his younger self was two years old. In December he was still refering to his younger self as being 2 years old.Here's part of Titor's 10-DEC-2000 post here ("Time Travel Paradoxes"):

 

pamela

Member posted 10 December 2000 11:32

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

from an e-mail to timetraveler_0 and his answers. (TTO-If any of this is different from what you sent me please let me know.this is copied and pasted.)

 

>20.do you feel any connection at all to your other 2 year old self on this world line? does it seem like you or someone totally different? who does he think you are when you talk to him?

 

He calls me uncle. Yes, there is a connection. He fells like a younger brother. Sometimes I get mixed emotions watching him and realize I'm watching the origins of my personality. I tend to playfully criticize my father about that

On 10-DEC-2000 he's still refering to his younger self as 2 years old (or more precisely, he's accepting the the premise that his younger self is still 2 years old).If his birthday was in December of 1998 he would have been 1 year old when Titor started posting in November and not 2 years old as Titor stated in his November and December, 2000 posts.

 

Therefore for him to be 3 years old on 6-FEB-2001 the birthday has to be between 1-JAN and 6-FEB 1998..

 

 

[Darby]

SamuelT,

 

Titor/TTO didn't actually indicate where he was born. He said that he lived in Central Florida, was stationed in Tampa and went to school at "Fort UF" (University of Florida) and that he lived on a large river with access to the Gulf.

 

Tampa is on the West central coast, the University of Florida is in Gainesville in Northern Florida and Orlando-Celebration-Kissimmee is Central Florida.

 

 

[SamuelT]

Thanks very much. I find such a hoax very interesting, though the name John Titor still puzzles me.

 

Kanigo2: Don't worry, you wouldn't find what I'm checking that interesting. Though one question for you, what makes you think "Titor" was his real name?

 

In addition, perhaps one could answer me this. Apparantly you've had other people claiming to be time travellers. Do any of them claim to be recreational time travellers? Perhaps from the 2080s or onwards?

 

 

[pamela]

I think it is really interesting that MY birthday falls within the same frame referrence.

 

"the birthday has to be between 1-JAN and 6-FEB "

 

 

[recall15]

I think it is really interesting that MY birthday falls within the same frame referrence.

 

"the birthday has to be between 1-JAN and 6-FEB "

 

RV DATA:

 

if you get the right "date", its open the posibility that the Rouge Timetraveles wants to Erease him and You for 4th Time!!!

 

1st Time that "reality" chage:

 

You and John Lives Togheter ever after, but the Council erease this reality...When they contacted John and find that he is too old.

 

2d Time that "reality" chage:

 

John and You moved to another reality, the things that john said happens "by the book, and the council restore all back to 1998...but you remember all like a "dream" that you never post here or at anomalies...

 

3th Time that "reality" chage: Is the reality that we are experimenting...

 

4th Time that "reality" chage: If you post the exact date....

 

 

 

[recall15]

Note: in the 3th change you got the "mail" read it and shifted...

 

 

 

[SamuelT]

Sorry... who are you Pamela (aside from Pamela)?

 

Sam.

 

 

[Kanigo2]

Though one question for you, what makes you think "Titor" was his real name?

I use the name Titor as a frame of reference. So we all know who I am speaking of.

 

Kanigo2: Don't worry, you wouldn't find what I'm checking that interesting.

Explain?

[SamuelT]

I just wanted to make sure I am reading about the right guy. That's all. See, not that interesting. Oh, and by the way, by my first question I was referring to how you said there is no Titor family in Florida. That may be what you meant, and if so sorry if I misunderstood.

 

Sam.

 

 

[TimeNot_0]

Titor was born according to him (her) in 1998. (and he also visited Disneyland when he was young.)

 

It's a Disney World.

 

Now, really don't you think that in a similiar fashion, the political candidates for Presidency look somewhat similiar to Mickey Mouse? Now really, take a close look when President Bush is smiling also.

 

 

[Darby]

SamuelT,

 

Notice in my post above where I quoted from the 10-DEC-2000 "Titor" post that it's not Titor who posted it. Pamela posted the item for Titor (and explains it in her post).

 

To answer your question to Pamela: She's that Pamela.

 

 

[Darby]

SamuelT,

 

Re. Titor's name:

 

He was TimeTravel_0 on this site. In his second post he asked about posting his photos on a site where he didn't have to register or reveal personal data about himself. When he started posting on this site we didn't have to register ito post. We could just pick a handle and start posting.

 

Later on he wanted to post on Art Bell's forum, Post-2-Post. But that site required a first and last name in order to register as well as an email account from a "regular" Internet provider. No HotMail accounts allowed. In order to register he chose a first and last name - John Titor (Time Travel Or) and had a friend allow him to use her AOL email account. AOL allowed five email accounts per Internet account. He chose the email name [email protected]. He used that email account to register on Post-2-Post.

 

Titor said a few times that John Titor wasn't his birth name and he asked members not to start annoying people in Florida whose last name was Titor by emailing them, calling them, snailmailing them or knocking on their front door.

 

BTW: Why he chose to use an AOL account in 2001 is a bit of a mystery. At that time AOL's internal security was...shall we say...a bit lax. At that time, while I wasn't posting on this site I was also involved in a massive online game. The AOL accounts had time limits. After exceeding your monthly minutes you started paying a premium per hour charge. I knew people in the game who would spend anywhere from 5 hours a night during the week and 12-18 hours a day on weekends and holidays in the game. In other words, for the hardcore player who was really into developing their in-game character it was expensive. Many of us were paying $100-$300 a month to play. We knew of a few people who had AOL accounts who also had inside contacts at AOL - boyfriends, girlfriends, pals, etc. - who could get into their accounts at the AOL side and either change them to comp accounts or delete the online time.

 

With that sort of security how hard would it have been for one of those same people to have the friend get into the [email protected] account and provide them with the owner's information? Not very hard at all.

 

 

[pamela]

You were paying 100-300 dollars a month on AOL??? Dang glad I wasn't on AOL back then that really sucks. John didn't use an AOL account when he emailed me.

 

Maybe he didn't use that AOL account much. Maybe he even knew that account later would be exposed by Art Bell. Maybe he even got someone else to email it to Art. The possibilities are endless. LOL

 

 

[pamela]

I have to admit I do not really understand what you are trying to say.

 

 

[Darby]

You were paying 100-300 dollars a month on AOL???

I was paying at the low end of the range. It was a combination of AOL premium charges and the game charges (which also had hourly premium rates after the monthly "allowance" was used up).Through market forces (competition) both the game and the ISP's went to flat rates sometime in 2001.

 

 

[recall15]

I have to admit I do not really understand what you are trying to say.

Quoting SamuelT @ 07/28/08 11:51 PM : Did it ever occur to you that the units were timelocked? Mainly because their instructors thinkbthey're all high and mighty and don't trust you even AFTER the full 60 hours of time training.

 

I've done what I needed to do. I'm jumping ahead a week. What's that about 168 hours?

 

See you in a week.

 

Sam.

 

and quoting Ray @ 07/29/08 07:22 AM

 

 

You seem to be toying with the line between TT discussion and making a TT claim. If you wish to continue to pretend you are a TTer, then I suggest when you "return in a week" you land in the TT Claims forum. OK?

 

RMT

 

Pam:

 

A Rouge Time Traveler...

 

 

 

[Kanigo2]

I prefer jumper recall- he stays on message.

 

Jumper

 

Sorry if I am not posting much folks- the content is a little on the low side.

 

 

[3636seaton]

Who is Jumper? Are his posts coded?

 

 

[Darby]

Seaton,

 

They're coded in a sense. "Back in the day" when people sent telegrams instead on email they paid a flat rate for a certain number of characters. Thereafter they paid by the character in the message. Thus they developed a shorthand "code" to save characters in the telegram. The word "Stop" was a freebee. It is a "period" (.) indicating the end of a sentence. Western Union (and the like) started charging by the character because it was time consuming, in the beginning, to format a telegram. The sending station operator had to manually send the message in Morse code. The receiving station operator had to listen to the code, write it down, type the message on a telegram form, call for delivery, etc. In short, it was expensive.

 

Current text message shorthand saves key strokes instead of saving money but it isn't a new idea. It came from telegram shorthand.

 

That's the code that Jumper was using.

 

 

[TimeNot_0]

Actually we can not give you exact information. According to what JT stated, he was born in 1998. But! We do not actually know what exact year it is.

 

There is inherent mayhem perhaps in the Universe, and the brains and minds of humans.

 

There definitely is chaos in the computer systems and processors.

 

http://www.physorg.com/news135938428.html

 

http://www.physorg.com/news135864149.html

 

http://www.physorg.com/news135862196.html

 

http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8372

 

http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5784

 

So, all of it, the year that we have agreed on by others who are in authority, and the inherent chaos in the computer systems, is just something we all have to live with, including doctors, who also can claim a person is iron deficient for unknown reason, except not eating spinach and being Popeye the Sailor Man or looking like Mickey Mouse and leading the world of humans as it is.

 

Thus no human can actually tell anyone the truth as it is nowadays, as no one actually can know the truth, I guess, or I am in chaos because still other people want to be more important to another person and again, there is only approximately the 24 hour day.

 

Thus, any Election you may come across coming up in this world, can not be done accurately, because again, there is inherent chaos in the Universe, and also in humans.

 

So, if there was anything posted here that was really important here, you did not read it here, and the links above are what they are, explaining partly part of the problem with the built-in chaos.

 

 

Well, I guess I should have other things to do and to go on with - life - but then again, it must be metaphysical or in that metaphysics which for some reason should take away the chaos, but then again I may have to think about it, if I had any time to really do that.

 

So, again, there are people on this Planet who all think or claim to be 'time travellers' and again their only goal I guess is to make other people mad or angry.

 

Again, computers are not in complete chaos as these other seemingly anti-social people seemingly are, so again, your govmit does not work for you, you work for your govmit, which only seeks to increase their own paycheck lately, and raise up real-estate prices to perhaps not really help others but to increase their own wealth and again perhaps punish others called foreigners to make those people not seek to buy America. Well, science may yet prove someday, as well as religion, that it was not a dream but the Acts of certain people who could not really seek any sort of resolution to continue on with, and the only physchology was one of death in the end.

 

I applaud their efforts but I do not think that inherent chaos can actually be made by humans in the future to influence an economy - it is called the Law of Dimishing Returns - and the first rule or law of economics - in which case -- where did their college education really come from - the unethical rules they still cling to after all these years. Well, going backwards seemingly by some humans may not actually help humans to avoid anything like war in the future, or anything else like disease or hardship or anything else.

 

It still just gives the idea that if the Universe is evolving, there may be something better than humans in the Universe in the future that is more intelligent, than what some humans appear to be nowadays.

 

It may be proven someday, since it already probably has been proven, not to have too many humans think like those other humans in the end or like some people in Congress. It actually does not pay the bills or allow humans the Right or Freedom to exist.

 

Complete chaos in any brain of a human does not mean intelligence.

 

 

[3636seaton]

Interesting Darby thanks, that explains all the "stops"... sorta

 

So to it looks like he is posting in txtin language, but why write stop at the end of each sentence that defeats the purpose of the short form no?

 

His sentences don't make much sense ethier... out of the 3 posts he has made, i could sting together a few concepts but am lost as to what he is trying to convey.

 

Maybe he is ESL?

 

Care to jump in Jumper?

 

 

[Darby]

According to what JT stated, he was born in 1998. But! We do not actually know what exact year it is.

Say what? He said 1998. Therefore we know exactly what year it was - 1998.