pondfish Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Simply because we would be having many people coming from near and distant future. John titor theory is only possible only if there is infinite parallel universes. Even assuming it , if humanity dies in one , they all die in other universes. BALANCE! Only think that makes us to think multiple universes is "Deja Vu". Every one had experience that they have already been there. It almost seems like somewhere in someuniverse time is running faster and here it is slower. I am more interested in UFO than time travel. Time travel is convoluted and will be in a self loop to crush everything. If 1 billion people started to travel backwards in time ? what happens?. They mess up up everyones future. There will be many criminal , psychotic people can come from future. Even though titor 'idea' fascinated us , i do not think time travel or multiple universe is possible unless we all die soon in future. In that case John titor may be our last time traveller. And time travel can be possible only if there are parallel universes with matter. Based on enormity of our universe who can say parallel universe is not possible?. The only thing that fascinate me is who started it all? I do not even care about the end...Who started the starter?... Are our universe is inside a atom of other universeses?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelT Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Are you saying that time travel is too powerful for mankind to manage? Or are you merely trying to disprove John Titor? Or the worldline theory? You seem unclear on the difference between parallel worldlines and parallel universes. Regardless, is your entire proof not irrelivant to those who do not describe to this theory? And regardless further, John Titor was a hoax, no new information there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLord Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr It sounds like the old argument, "if time travel ever will be invented, then we will be surrounded by time travellers now; since we don't see any time travellers, it must mean that time travel will never be possible." It's very simple-minded thinking, and inherently flawed. It's like going to the most untamed wilderness place and saying cars have not been invented since you don't see any there. This modern era is a dark age of the soul. It will not attract most time travellers looking for a good time and worthwhile adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondfish Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr I really doubt that. if time travel is ever possible. it will be infested with many even with billions of parllel worldlines. You all keep forgetting future is billion years old , there is always someone one wants to go past. if everyone alter it to some extent , whole parallel universe will not resemble each other. you need to understand addition of all universes has to unity. I really want to believe in parallel universes because of "deja vu " occurences but i seriously think there is no chance of time travel unless if someone goes back 10 years back hide a ipod in taj mahal so that we can wait there find it. Also to test parallel universe concept someone goe sback kill their dog in their past and come and see their dog is still alive in this present. This all after we have develop this donut blackhole. Hey atleast john titor makes you all go and think and swim in a sci fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelT Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr Your theory, however, whilst an interesting argument, is almost useless without the existence of parallel universes. Parallel universes and time travel are completely different - you shouldn't combine them like this. It is best to imagine time not as a line that is forever getting longer, but as a constant shape. The entire of time is in existence, just as the entire of space is in existence. It's just not the same everywhere. Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLXVI Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr if time travel is ever possible. it will be infested with many even with billions of parllel worldlines. The who idea behind different worldlines is that there are an infinite number encompasing all possible outcomes, so there is no way we can get "infested" with them. You all keep forgetting future is billion years old , there is always someone one wants to go past. How do you know that the future is a billion years old? What if the universe was destroyed tomorrow and life as we know it ended? There is no guarantee as to how long our species (or others for that matter) will continue to survive.You need to think out your arguments a bit more and narrow your topic. As eveyone has already stated, you seem to be trying to disprove time travel and enlightening us to the fact that Titor was fake all with irrational arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticdan Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr I wouldn't worry too much, as there would be absolutely no point to travelling back in time, and I would be surprised if anyone can give me a valid reason to do so. Also to physically travel back or even send a forum post back would obviously change the entire population of the planet within a few generations a risk I doubt anyone would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recall15 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr To visit parallel time-worlds with no human presence...only Nature!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanigo2 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr Tailing piles from a mine? That would not be without a human presence there recall. What were they mining? Always another question about timetravel I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr To visit parallel time-worlds with no human presence...only Nature!!! How could a human visit another world with "no human presense"? And if we accepted the above photo as a valid description of the caption...who took the photo? Fido the dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainmanTime Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr To visit parallel time-worlds with no human presence...only Nature!!! Newflash to recall: Humanity is part of Nature. :)RMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recall15 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr Ok, see definition 4 of Nature @ http://www.answers.com/topic/nature A primitive state of existence, untouched and uninfluenced by civilization or artificiality: as some TT said: The worldline visited has to be around 25% divergent which would typically be a worldline with a breatheable atmosphere and non-intelligent life. There is some concern for messing up worldlines and this is to prevent groups of people from inadvertantly harming one. The reason why I said "non-intelligent" life is because in some divergence "zones," namely between 8-15% the intelligent life isn't always human. and: Lin to Enterprise mission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Re: If time travel is possible , humanity is destr Recall15 John Titor claimed 2% divergence when he went back to 1970's to get the IBM computer. So it does not just depend where you go but when. Also the biologist in plants also had a small divergence also when he was collecting plants from our time line for his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recall15 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Re:Divergence Definition: as SamuelTT define it around here: I am not quite sure what you mean by "definition" in this respect, but off the top of my head I believe somebody said once that it was the 'natural uncertainty of causality on the scale of a significant timeline' or something along those lines. Personally, I would have thought that you could sort of figure out the meaning - the words "temporal divergence" were somewhat self-explanitory, but maybe its just me and the way I've been lectured on it (and actually given a couple of lectures on it) so many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thfold99 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 "It goes through one slit, both slits and neither" Therefore in relation to what you have stated; "It is destroyed, somewhat destroyed, and not destroyed at all" Such a blantant surmise of the effects of a variable towards which the entity itself has a ruleset which allows for all, is pure pessimism and only fact towards the individual's contributory thought set. (Meaning if it's truth to you, you'll create that reality). Optimism makes this experience much more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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