Skarpz Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I was just thinking, can different realities exist at the same time or even run into each other every once in a while. Can yourself in a different reality steal batteries from a store, but they happened to be in your reality at the time they did it and you get blamed for it? Could your brother, that looks similar to you, that isn't from your reality happen to walk near you and you didn't even know it? Can realities merge? And also go back the way they were? Can some beings or objects come into our reality from another? Would it be possible to see something that's in another reality in your reality? I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this and if maybe any of this could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpz Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 What if this was what was really happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 can different realities exist at the same time or even run into each other every once in a while According to quantrum mechanics the answer is no as to "different realities...running into each other" and both yes and no as to "different realities exist at the same time", depending on which major school is QM is correct (if either is actually correct).Both the Copenhagen Interpretation and the Many Worlds Interpretation state that once a quantum system is "observed" a reality emerges. In Copenhagen only one reality emerges. In MWI multiple realities emerge but they are not entangled - they no longer interact. If they did interact then a host of conservation laws would be violated and MWI would no longer make any sense. From the above you see that MWI postulates many realities. Notice that I didn't further state "at the same time". Stating that they exist at the same time makes no sense because they are not interacting with each other, we know from special relativity that the idea of "absolute simultaneity of events" fails even in our own world. If the universes can't communicate with each other there's no way to determine what time it is in the other universe. In the Copenhagen Interpretation the statement obviously makes no sense because there is but one reality. Just as an aside, Many Worlds in a popular Internet alt-sci view of reality as well as a sci-fi plot tool but in physics it is accepted as a minority view of how QM works. String theory is a third interpretation of reality that postulates that maybe gravity leaks across "branes" from one universe to another but my understanding is that no actual information leaks across the bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpz Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 If that can't be true then it makes me think of something else and just arriving at a different conclusion. But I'm not going to get into it at the moment and instead have something else to mention and Don't know what to think of it. Maybe you can help me understand what's going on in terms of science and maybe it could be true or not or some explanation. ------- Just remembering something else. Don't know if it means anything at all. People have said that they've known me and have memories of me and some background, but that information doesn't fit with the way I've lived or who I really am. This has happened at least 4 times that I recollect. Each with different interpretations of my reality or what in their minds was my reality. I don't know how to really explain that. It was as if information leaked from different realities. Even though it happened, the quote below, you said wasn't the case. String theory is a third interpretation of reality that postulates that maybe gravity leaks across "branes" from one universe to another but my understanding is that no actual information leaks across the bound. I saw a video on that and I think he was explaining that the information didn't cross into the black hole or something like that.----- I think this is all I can say for now. I'm going off of personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I saw a video on that and I think he was explaining that the information didn't cross into the black hole or something like that. You may have seen a video concerning Steven Hawking's "black hole information paradox".Its a highly technical part of the quantum mechanical aspects of a black hole but a very incomplete explanation goes something like this regarding the paradox: Part 1: Anything that crosses the event horizon if a black hole is forever trapped behind the horizon and is no longer a part of the world outside the black hole. Information falling into a black hole is destroyed as far as the universe is concerned. Part 2: Information is defined by a "unitary operator". Techno babble sounding, yes? What that means is that if you take all the information about a system, no matter how you fiddle with or manipulate the information it will always add up to 1 (or 100%). Never more and never less. Information can't be destroyed. It can change form and can be tied up in the system in a way that disguises it but it's still there. The Paradox: If Part 1 is true then Part 2 must be false. If Part 2 is true then Part 1 must be false. Part 1 AND Part 2 can't both be true. The video may have mentioned that Steven Hawking has reconsidered this position and now believes that it might be possible for the information to leak out through Hawking Radiation. This doesn't mean that if you drop an astronaut into a black hole that the original person will some day pop back out. His subatomic particles will pop back out and the information about their original QM states will also pop back out. It will be a random mess but the original information will be conserved - the unitary operator is still present but the poor astronaut will be just as dead as he was when the gravitational tidal forces ripped him into individual atoms, then squashed them into an energy soup and finally whatever happens next after the situation goes beyond the limits of general relativity and QM theory and becomes some form of a gravitational singularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpz Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Sounds good. Something I didn't quite know. Thanks for sharing that information. I'm also trying to figure out how people's perception of my reality is different than mine. Their reality is different than mine although we exist in the same reality. 1.) I walked into a store and a lady kicked me out saying that I stole batteries from the store even though I have no recollection of it, no use for it and definitely don't have any at home. Though she was sure it was me that stole the batteries. This was close to present time, at that time, when she thought it occurred. 2.) Another lady turned around to look at me, in a bus transit center, and said that my brother was just in the bus mall not too far away. Neither of my brothers were in town and live far away. They drive and wouldn't be in a bus mall and therefore what she thought was my brother, couldn't have been. This thought was close to present time. 3.) A girl I went to high school with, although it was my first time seeing her, she remembered me from years ago before high school. I was only in that town since my sophomore year in high school and she was telling me of times before then, when she remembered me, that couldn't have been. This was of someone's thought of a past time that never happened in my reality. 4.) A guy has memories that go back to a middle school that I never been and couldn't have been in that school with him at that time because of the age difference. Past thought and not my reality. People had different perceptions of realities of me that are different than my own. I don't know how to explain it and it just seems like The Twilight Zone to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'm also trying to figure out how people's perception of my reality is different than mine. Their reality is different than mine although we exist in the same reality Three people just saw "something". A few minutes later you question each of them and ask them what they saw. One says that he saw a tiny pink blob on the horizon. Another says that he saw a large pink wall. The third one says he saw an elephant.How can three people see the same thing and describe it so differently? One was too far away, one was too close and the other one was at just the right distance. It's a matter of perspective. Give three people a chance to describe the same event from three different locations and you get three different descriptions. Each one's perception of reality was valid - they just didn't share the same perspective of the same event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpz Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 These people weren't seeing or saw the same events, but they were different events that including me. I didn't encounter any of these events. It was all theirs. They were all seeing different things but it wasn't the same event and I didn't see the event either, so I don't know or see how your example works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 They were all seeing different things but it wasn't the same event and I didn't see the event either, so I don't know or see how your example works. Add a fourth person. He said that he saw a giraff. He was facing the wrong direction and didn't see the elephant.Of course its a simplistic analogy of your situation. Real people are a lot more complex. Who knows for sure what they actually saw, thought they saw, were erroneously influenced into believing that they saw something based on someone else's statement, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpz Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Of course its a simplistic analogy of your situation. Real people are a lot more complex. Who knows for sure what they actually saw, thought they saw, were erroneously influenced into believing that they saw something based on someone else's statement, etc. Yeah the examples don't quite explain it because it's more complex than it really is.To me it can't really be explained. ----------------------------------- Hopefully I can explain this right: I saw a video on a "double-split" experiment where light particles go through two slits in a sheet. Light particles (might be only one) went through the two slits and on the other side showed more than two results. It seemed like on the other end there was more than two slits (because something like 5 lights were shown on the wall) even though there wasn't that many. Now when there was something observing the Light before the slits, on the other side of the sheet was showing only 2 lights shown on the wall on the other side. That's what makes me think that we can only observe one reality, but there could be more although we can't observe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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