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My own personal opinion, is that time should not be changed. I believe that everything happens for a reason. If you avoid one tragedy, what's to say that another separate tragedy won't happen in its place? What if the new scenario is actually worse than the original one? In any case, time will always find a way to catch up to you.

 

 

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This is a more complex scenario than we can thought in my opinion. If we go back to the past to change something then our action will influence in some way our present right? Maybe we won't even exist? This is the perfect example of the paradox issue. For me, if it possible of course, it would be right to change something in the past if this has the aim to modify the things in a better way.

 

 

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Would it be right to go back to try to stop Hitler from going into power?'

How do you know that stopping Hitler from getting into power would be the right thing to do ? Hitler had a mental disorder of some sort, he lost the war because of his mistakes. So maybe if you eliminated Hitler a leader which actually wasn't insane might have gotten into power. Germany and Japan would have won WW2, and things would have been even worse.

 

Modern American foreign policy is an example of this. USA attempts to fix a problem, but to fix it usually they cause a bigger problem. The whole middle east is an example of this.

 

 

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This is a question that is always pondered in time travel. Do we have the right to stop a tragic event from happening knowing now what we didn't then. For example would it be right to try to go back and stop the events of September 11, 2001? Would it be right to go back to try to stop Hitler from going into power?

Try this for perspective.

 

Let's assume that on the day your parents first met they were out for a walk two blocks from each other. They were on separate streets walking in opposite directions. Tragically there was a traffic accident that occurred between them somewhere in the neighborhood wherein the occupants of the cars died. Your parents were drawn to the sound of the accident. They're good people so they rendered first aid at the scene. That's how they met. The rest is love, marriage, your birth and history.

 

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Mr. Sad Face has a time machine. He also witnessed the accident and as a result suffers from PTSD because he saw it happen and couldn't do anything to stop it. He's decided to use his gadget to change history by saving everyone from the accident. And so he does.

 

There's no accident; there's no sound drawing your parents to the scene - they continue walking in opposite directions. They never meet and you are never born. In fact, they each marry someone else and have entire sets of children that were never born in the original history. A hundred years later all of the hundreds of resulting progeny have engaged in hundreds of marriages that never existed in the original history resulting in thousands of children being born that never existed in the original...et sic in aeternum.

 

Do you really want to change the past?

 

 

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Mr. Sad Face has a time machine. He also witnessed the accident and as a result suffers from PTSD because he saw it happen and couldn't do anything to stop it. He's decided to use his gadget to change history by saving everyone from the accident. And so he does.

 

There's no accident; there's no sound drawing your parents to the scene - they continue walking in opposite directions. They never meet and you are never born. In fact, they each marry someone else and have entire sets of children that were never born in the original history. A hundred years later all of the hundreds of resulting progeny have engaged in hundreds of marriages that never existed in the original history resulting in thousands of children being born that never existed in the original...et sic in aeternum.

 

Do you really want to change the past?

 

While I agree changing the past is not a good idea, I tend to believe fate would still bring your parents together. As @Einstein points out, "It probably doesn't matter if you change anything. If all the possibilities already exist, then you would merely just be following an alternate path through time." Or in the case of the OP and the suggestion of stopping Hitler, if not Hitler, someone else. After all, it was not a one man show and the tragic events were bound to happen either way.

 

 

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One of the reasons I pursue Government and Military technology in regards to Time Travel are because, quite frankly we, as interested researchers, need more information as to what can, and cannot be done. For instance: How far can an entropy advance before it becomes far too chaotic to reverse?

 

You pour a bottle of green dye into your swimming pool-it dissipates, never to be able to be un-dissipated. Same with an explosion. How long after an explosion can it be reversed.

 

I suspect there is a very short time in which you could actually reverse an event/decay/entropy/chaos.

 

 

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even if we did ..no one would know... people with time travel abilities might be doing this all the time and we will never know because the time line would change,,.. and as far as we know , thats the way its always been...your memories of your past would change and your world would change and this could be happening several times a day and we would be totally unaware of it,,, as far as I know , I could have been a millionare , living on my yatch yesterday... but if someone changes the timeline, I suddenly become a nurse, and as far as I'm aware.. I have been for 25 years !

 

 

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I would say that its possible but not advisable to attempt to change anything the universe will have all things as it should, as hard as it would be to not to interfere in the 9/11 tragedy it was ment to have happened I know its not easy for the families to comprehend that but I think it was supposed to happen

 

 

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I did some research into the time slip phenomenon and found that quite a few reported time slips imply physical time travel, so the possible effects of the witnesses' interactions (mostly in the past) on the present was an issue I had to consider. The scientific consensus is that such effects are possible, but the present is what it is as a result of all possible causative influences, including the present and the future, so if you know that Hitler existed and did what he did, you can't alter that. Therefore your attempt, assuming you still try, has already failed, and you cannot do anything to make it succeed. I did come across an interesting report of a telepathic effect on the past in the book "Journeys with a Sufi Master" by H. B. M. Dervish, where a dervish community demonstrated that they could change someone's life by making his son a financial success.

 

 

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The key fact about this particular case is that the dervishes weren't changing a known situation (as in the Hitler example). Very briefly, the author was visiting a dervish monastery and expressed scepticism about their powers (to get a response!). In response, he was told to go a long way to a nearby town and mentally select a particular individual. He walked to the town and in the bazaar he picked an old man selling watches. He walked back to the monastery and when he got there was immediately told to return to the town. He must have been feeling a bit irritated by the time he returned to the town the second time, but when he went to the old man's stall it was closed. The guy on the next stall told him that he just missed an emotional reunion. The old man's son had arrived unexpectedly from South America where he had made his fortune, and offered his father a new life with him. The old man had obviously jumped at it and gave away his stock of watches to the other stallholder.

 

The author didn't think the dervishes had really altered someone's life but it looks like it to me!

 

 

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