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well you're just another time traveller who came to our time to save our future! how cliche!!!!

uh...don't mind me I'm actually curious if you're real or not....so I just can't believe it is true until I can get some solid proof!

so yeah...it would be great if you could do it:)

 

Hello Anonymous_2099,

 

You'll have to excuse me for thinking your writing tone is too presumptuous, and that I owe you personally no proof.

I also am not here to save your future, as well as I have little care to interfere with established geopolitical events.

--I hope the above helps illustrate the point that your affirmation on whether I'm real or not does not matter.

 

As stated, my primary purpose for being here was to attend to an SOS. I have 7 members in my squad, all of whom fell out of communication with each other. No matter what timeline or deviation, if there's a TTI we can always find our ways back to each other. My mission is to locate the remaining 3, and then get us all out of here. Using TTI helps me accomplish that objective sooner than if I were to use other media.

 

I hope all of this helps you understand the things I value, and why you'll never see me dropping lottery numbers to appease strangers.

If you have any better questions regarding the nature of traveling in general, I'll gladly answer them!

-Oz

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Hello Anonymous_2099,

 

You'll have to excuse me for thinking your writing tone is too presumptuous, and that I owe you personally no proof.

I also am not here to save your future, as well as I have little care to interfere with established geopolitical events.

--I hope the above helps illustrate the point that your affirmation on whether I'm real or not does not matter.

 

As stated, my primary purpose for being here was to attend to an SOS. I have 7 members in my squad, all of whom fell out of communication with each other. No matter what timeline or deviation, if there's a TTI we can always find our ways back to each other. My mission is to locate the remaining 3, and then get us all out of here. Using TTI helps me accomplish that objective sooner than if I were to use other media.

 

I hope all of this helps you understand the things I value, and why you'll never see me dropping lottery numbers to appease strangers.

If you have any better questions regarding the nature of traveling in general, I'll gladly answer them!

-Oz

Yeah I’m sorry for being rude

But i am also rational by nature so I can’t believe stuff easily and/or with no proof

Also by giving out proof I didn’t really meant to give out lottery numbers....wait!

I’ll get to it straight....actually I’m curious so if you are real....a real time traveler then I really want to study your methods and all!

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Is this John Titor different than the one people most associate with time travel?

Also am I missing the proof that he's a Freemason (what was I supposed to be looking at as proof?) A logo alone is not indicitive.

-Oz

 

This is the original John Titor a.k.a. Oliver Williams a.k.a. Mike from 2037". The only proof is the Freemason logo on his graphic. I think it is very indicitive as people who are not Freemasons don't normally use that logo to identify themselves. You can also see that John Titor is about 3 things. Engineering, Military and Hollywood. He also went to the South Dakota School of Mines and Engineering.

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Hi Oz! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and taking the time to write. I often wonder how the Grand Architect figures into time travel. I’ve never considered chaos being such a significant aspect to a spiritual side. I’ve always believed the order ultimately wins, but I see the beauty of the chaos and appreciate the insights. Do you believe there is a destiny to your journey in time? Do you find a sense of purpose through all the adventure? Does that purpose change with each alternate timeline? Safe traveling!

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Yeah I’m sorry for being rude

But i am also rational by nature so I can’t believe stuff easily and/or with no proof

Also by giving out proof I didn’t really meant to give out lottery numbers....wait!

I’ll get to it straight....actually I’m curious so if you are real....a real time traveler then I really want to study your methods and all!

Hello anonymous_2099,

 

It's not unreasonable at all to want proof. Everyone should take each other with a grains of salt no matter what. That's best practice.

We can review each others postings and come to our own determinations, but irrefutable concrete evidence that some people sometimes ask for is not always possible. It's not much of a stretch to say it requires no small amount of faith.

 

Lets take the lotto test for example: "Tell me what lotto numbers will be pulled tomorrow" is fatally flawed. The predicted numbers would almost never be the same, due to chaos theory. It is possible to pull off, but true foreknowledge of lottery numbers indicates a different type of traveling (a very dangerous kind)

 

I may need to post an update in the near future about the best tests to use!

-Oz

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Hi Oz! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and taking the time to write. I often wonder how the Grand Architect figures into time travel. I’ve never considered chaos being such a significant aspect to a spiritual side. I’ve always believed the order ultimately wins, but I see the beauty of the chaos and appreciate the insights. Do you believe there is a destiny to your journey in time? Do you find a sense of purpose through all the adventure? Does that purpose change with each alternate timeline? Safe traveling!

 

Greetings m0nique23,

 

The way I see things, the secrets of Eternium are pretty much out in the open. I used to think that order ultimately wins, but really, reality tends towards disorder (chaos / entropy). It may seems counterintuitive, but entropy is natural. There is beauty in uncertainty.

 

Destiny? I believe in it. For my role? I'm sure there's something above my head going on that I don't understand, which is where faith comes in.

I would also say that one's purpose can change across time and space depending on circumstances. Prior to my most recent adventure I assumed I was finished & could retire...but things didn't work out that way.

-Oz

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Greeting Oz!

Thank you for your reply. Interesting perspective. It is good to know someone like yourself can still incorporate an element of destiny to fulfill throughout the chaos and randomness. Although I am unsure what you mean by “Eternium”. Creativity is at the heart of my journey now. I am constantly looking for symbols that tell a story. I just so happened to name a recent work with Oz in the title, so I felt compelled to write to ask some questions. Coincidental timing? Is there something more to the alignment of art and time travel? Is there a frequency beauty can connect to those in the future? I like how you refer the TTI to a rudder. Were you able to find the rest of your team? Do they know you are looking for them? Travel safe!

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Hello Oz,

 

In your above response you wrote that there are still things in your time that people don't know about the universe. Would I be correct in saying you still don't have a clear answer to how the big bang happened/the beginning of everything?

 

Greetings Inferno,

 

There are always mysteries to be solved by science. I love cosmology, and at least in the near future we receive confirmation that we're riding along in just one of many universes in a vast multiverse. I don't have an answer for exactly HOW the big bang happened--just that it happened, and that ours is not particularly special. The Freemason in me is content with feeling the big bang is just a part of the Grand Architect's design.

-Oz

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hey _Oz

 

what's your take on the following statement,

 

"Fish that lives in the sea know nothing of the land. If they had that wisdom they, would be ruined. For humans to exceed the speed of light is more foolish than for fish to start living on land."

 

PS:this statement was made in a fictional animation about time travel.

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Sorry for posting on this dead thread, I just had a though about dreamfaring. I think it might have something to do with moving your conscious to another timeline with little or no technological assistance. I know you said you wouldn't elaborate any further on this, so I'm not really expecting an answer. I'm just sharing my thoughts.

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Hello _oZ,

Why would you expose you're a time traveler while in this day and age you can be tracked on anything, in fact, why would you even go on this exact forum you should have a protocol in a place. like a wave transmitter that transmits @ current wavelength, only a TTI can receive. It should take you a week or 2 to get your fellow colleagues back.

 

Also about the different timelines frankly if you say something in this timeline you're you are affecting this timeline but your timeline will still be intact therefore if you told us about your time machine not only are you telling us how to make one or either how it works your timeline will never be affected but ours would. To everyone else, if you don't know how the timeline looks like a timeline is basically a tree it starts at the same spot but differentiates when moving forward different types of other lines that merge, unmerge.

 

its seems like you have moved forward hope u read this soon ✌

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Hello _oZ,

Why would you expose you're a time traveler while in this day and age you can be tracked on anything, in fact, why would you even go on this exact forum you should have a protocol in a place. like a wave transmitter that transmits @ current wavelength, only a TTI can receive. It should take you a week or 2 to get your fellow colleagues back.

 

Greetings NCOLO#3,

 

Why TTI? Because it's the reliable gathering place & is super low tech. The squad did get back together as well ^_^

Why expose myself? Because all of this matters little within 8 years anyway.

 

You're also correct about actions taken here not impacting my original timeline. For the same reasons, my very presence here causes divergences from whatever other travelers (which there are many from my observations) have been planning / doing. I'll be here for the next few years at least. Even if I wasn't posting things people were afraid of others knowing, I'd still intermittently visit TTI because I like the conversations / people.

-Oz

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You're also correct about actions taken here not impacting my original timeline. For the same reasons, my very presence here causes divergences from whatever other travelers (which there are many from my observations) have been planning / doing. I'll be here for the next few years at least. Even if I wasn't posting things people were afraid of others knowing, I'd still intermittently visit TTI because I like the conversations / people.

-Oz

 

So, Oz, you will never go back home? You are "missing" in your original timeline? That must really suck, having to let go of all family and friends.

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So, Oz, you will never go back home? You are "missing" in your original timeline? That must really suck, having to let go of all family and friends.

 

It's an existential problem...On one hand, in my home universe I'm a missing person to my friends / family. On the other hand, I still get to see them (a version of them at least) which brings me comfort. I do feel bad sometimes for the ones who probably still worry & will never receive closure. There'd be almost nothing I can do to get back to that worldline since we're so far deviated from when I grew up. Not that it's impossible--I just don't have anywhere near the tech or bearings to do it.

 

I always feel like instead of dwelling on that which is out of our control, it's best to live in the moment & be grateful for that which we have.

-Oz

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Hello _Oz!

 

If this timeline doesn't matter because these conversations will be irrelevant in 8 years , then why wont you send evidence? Have you sent any photos? Also, what type of time travel do you claim to be using? What year are you theoretically from? (I've probably missed this) Do you believe in fate? One last thing, is Robert Malett someone you know? (not personally).

 

PS: How is a random person allowed to time travel? The only reasons I could see are A: Time Machines or Devices or whatever they are called are common, B: You are illegally here, Or C: You are allowed to be here (with some restriction) The reason I think this is because if anyone came here, all sorts of paradoxes are destined to arise.

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Why do you have trouble replying to some of the private message I sent you?

 

You messaged me about my time machine, and then tried to steal (something? Tachyons from this board??) from me and failed according to the notifications I got. I just hadn't felt like replying after that.

 

I will elaborate a little further though in my next update

-Oz

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Hello _Oz!

 

If this timeline doesn't matter because these conversations will be irrelevant in 8 years , then why wont you send evidence? Have you sent any photos? Also, what type of time travel do you claim to be using? What year are you theoretically from? (I've probably missed this) Do you believe in fate? One last thing, is Robert Malett someone you know? (not personally).

 

PS: How is a random person allowed to time travel? The only reasons I could see are A: Time Machines or Devices or whatever they are called are common, B: You are illegally here, Or C: You are allowed to be here (with some restriction) The reason I think this is because if anyone came here, all sorts of paradoxes are destined to arise.

 

Greetings,

 

Even if it's just a game, no good or great chess player should ever telegraph their moves in advance unless it was intentional. Time Travel (which I use that term loosely) becomes more common the farther into the future you go. I don't mind sharing more details, but I also wouldn't want to get into the nitty gritty for the same reasons. In an exponentially divergent multiverse only a couple clicks away, the common associations of time travel is literally a tourist attraction. The way this is accomplished with minimal divergence, is through a nifty service called VesselShare

 

VesselShare brands themselves as service used to visit periods or places in time of significance. The elevator pitch is that you can send your conscious mind back in time to one of VS's home grown vessels--which enables you to experience the events of that era, while at the same time minimizing divergence. It was found to be significantly easier to send a consciousness backwards (primarily using advanced waves) AND less risky--since the death of the vessel means the trip ends early & your mind goes back to its proper time. As it happens, the death of a vessel is also a flexible point (not quite a fixed event, but guaranteed to occur) which means visitations between fixed points will have almost no impact on the worldline at large.

 

While they SAY there is minimal divergence, I would argue otherwise. In fact, I've been riding in one of their vessels since 1989. Some fixed events remain the same as I remember them from history, while others (like Trump being President) are totally uncalculated for. Hopefully you're not uncomfortable with paradoxes, because they're super common. Most of them go completely unnoticed, which only occasionally causes some people to recall events with different accounts. It's usually chalked up to shoddy memory or the Mandela effect.

 

Anyways, this timeline is a major mess & I originally only came back to this era to grow into an old man out in the mountains in peace. Over time the divergence became more and more noticeable, until 2016....at that point I stopped being just a passive observer & started to pay more attention. By 2018 I realized I probably was going to need to do something, and this year I've been more brazen than ever. I still don't think it'll matter much within 8-10 years, but I'm also not trying to hasten things any faster than they seem to be.

-Oz

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Greetings,

 

Even if it's just a game, no good or great chess player should ever telegraph their moves in advance unless it was intentional. Time Travel (which I use that term loosely) becomes more common the farther into the future you go. I don't mind sharing more details, but I also wouldn't want to get into the nitty gritty for the same reasons. In an exponentially divergent multiverse only a couple clicks away, the common associations of time travel is literally a tourist attraction. The way this is accomplished with minimal divergence, is through a nifty service called VesselShare

 

VesselShare brands themselves as service used to visit periods or places in time of significance. The elevator pitch is that you can send your conscious mind back in time to one of VS's home grown vessels--which enables you to experience the events of that era, while at the same time minimizing divergence. It was found to be significantly easier to send a consciousness backwards (primarily using advanced waves) AND less risky--since the death of the vessel means the trip ends early & your mind goes back to its proper time. As it happens, the death of a vessel is also a flexible point (not quite a fixed event, but guaranteed to occur) which means visitations between fixed points will have almost no impact on the worldline at large.

 

While they SAY there is minimal divergence, I would argue otherwise. In fact, I've been riding in one of their vessels since 1989. Some fixed events remain the same as I remember them from history, while others (like Trump being President) are totally uncalculated for. Hopefully you're not uncomfortable with paradoxes, because they're super common. Most of them go completely unnoticed, which only occasionally causes some people to recall events with different accounts. It's usually chalked up to shoddy memory or the Mandela effect.

 

Anyways, this timeline is a major mess & I originally only came back to this era to grow into an old man out in the mountains in peace. Over time the divergence became more and more noticeable, until 2016....at that point I stopped being just a passive observer & started to pay more attention. By 2018 I realized I probably was going to need to do something, and this year I've been more brazen than ever. I still don't think it'll matter much within 8-10 years, but I'm also not trying to hasten things any faster than they seem to be.

-Oz

How did vesselshare get the growing equipment back in time?

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How did vesselshare get the growing equipment back in time?

 

I mentioned to Paula that I'm very much not familiar with the intricates of how VS is able to do what they've been doing. From what I do know, some time (many many years) after traveling became more common, a corporation saw fit to "grow" bodies at specific periods / places in time. The vessel is able to be used by any number of travelers until it expires. Planting "seeds" (the term for a vessel that is not yet ready for transference) is not very difficult. The challenge is not injecting something back in time, since there's hundreds or more functioning machines hidden across the planet all the time. The challenge is the transference of consciousness, which also requires phlashing / preparing the vessel in between uses.

 

I suspect it really is just a cleverly controlled usage of dreamfaring, because from the perspective of the traveler---they lay down in what feels like & kind of resembles an MRI machine. There's no noises, and only a throbbing pressure in the temples after a few seconds. It gets very heavy very quick. The feeling is similar to the heavy feeling from being heavily intoxicated. You can't help but fall asleep within 10-15 seconds, then immediately wake up in your shiny new vessel. Kind of like the movie Avatar, except the avatar / vessel is at a different spacetime than the one you're in. It also makes sense from the perspective that dreamfaring is as close to 0 divergence as you can get.

 

The reason why I disagree with them, is because very few people know that dreamfaring is an incredibly powerful tool to begin with. It boasts close to 0 divergence when you're not doing anything crazy, but near (or possibly actually) infinite divergence when you're willingly looking to exploit it. It's very possible that this timeline only appears messed up to me because I'm about 29 years past due on mine. Were I to suddenly die, it's possible that everything as I remembered (or at least close) will be the same when I wake up. Who knows fore sure though, and I'm not NO hurry to go back to the last universe >_<

-Oz

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@_Oz I still need to collect all these questions I ask you for that project I mentioned. lol. How is posting on a forum allowed? Why wouldn't a time traveler be 100% private unless their goal is to make a change in the time line? Any tiny interaction can change things drastically.

 

No worries! There ARE laws, regulations, and rules of thumbs....but they're more like guidelines than actual rules. There's more than a few laws & regulations I've broken, and I'm certain that I'll probably get at least a slap on the hand in the future....but the consequences that people talk about, usually arise from their own actions. I've come to accept divergence as a part of life, which is why I don't stress much about things.

-Oz

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“Time travel” sounds like a lot of fun for people, until they’ve experienced serious deviations or loss. We are in an unfortunate deviation currently, and it takes a lot of work to rectify if at all. My squad of 7 had become separated, and forgot how to find each other again. Low tech is always best.

 

If I could go further and impart a little knowledge to someone—I would have them understand that grandiose ambitions lead only to tragedy, and that it’s never too late to change for the better.

-Oz

 

that said - what change brings about the greatest potential for an individuals foot print on their and others timelines?

 

how does one change the trajectory of tragedy?

 

how does one get the best help when you say others are refusing to allow help?

 

If others aren't helping would it be a sign to chill and let the universe drive, or is more required to sustain positive change?

 

whats the cost of doing nothing?

 

There are times I look around and am just waiting for everyone's mask to drop, and what we thought were monsters were actually angels, or clowns or just bits of cosmos shooting by (no not Cosmos on the boards - then again - maybe) (attempt at humor)

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