I have info on John Titor

[Time Travler_0]

Thanks

[Darby]

I have info on John Titor

 

John Titor is and is a real person I know this because I'm John Titor's step son.

While that is absolutely correct it is only trivially so. Of course Boomer, the author, aka John Titor/TimeTravel_0 is a real person and 22 years later may very well have a step son. A human being did write the posts. But that was never the question.

[Darby]

Habers, I don't think I've read that could you send that to me.

Haber, not Habers. Larry Haber, Celebration, FL, Attorney at Law, specializing in entertainment industry law. Formerly an executive at Disney and Universal Studios.

 

He was Titor's attorney. He was (is?) Kay Titor's attorney (Kay Titor, ummm...your step grandmother perhaps? She is Titor's mother) He filed the copyright for Titor's mom's book. He is President of the John Titor Foundation. He basically owns or legally controls "Everything John Titor."

 

That Larry Haber.

 

I take it that you didn't have a particularly close relationship with your step dad considering you never heard of any of this. Ouch!

[non sequitur]

The intricacy and effort of the deception is equally as important as proving it false, and in this example the effort was sadly lacking. Time_Travler_0 gave up before it began..

[Cosmo]

A human being did write the posts. But that was never the question.

I'm sure someone has at least suggested the possibility

[PaulaJedi]

Haber, not Habers. Larry Haber, Celebration, FL, Attorney at Law, specializing in entertainment industry law. Formerly an executive at Disney and Universal Studios.

 

He was Titor's attorney. He was (is?) Kay Titor's attorney (Kay Titor, ummm...your step grandmother perhaps? She is Titor's mother) He filed the copyright for Titor's mom's book. He is President of the John Titor Foundation. He basically owns or legally controls "Everything John Titor."

 

That Larry Haber.

 

I take it that you didn't have a particularly close relationship with your step dad considering you never heard of any of this. Ouch!

 

We found that his brother Morey Haber was also involved.

[Darby]

You are a fraud. If John Titor is indeed real and what he told us back then is true then you in fact can not be here as he told us several times that it would be impossible for a time traveler using the same machine that he used to come back in time to this exact “Worldline.” So based off what you are saying that makes you a fraud or more importantly John Titor is now proven to be a fraud because what you are saying isn’t possible. Nice try

 

Yikes! Easy big fella. "Fraud" is a rather strong word; it is used to describe a certain criminal act. Surely you don't mean that the poster is trying to separate people from their money, right? Whether or not Time Traveler_0 is actually what he claims to be is subject to debate that does not have to devolve to ad hominem attack. We went through that in 2000 through 2003 (look back at the old the threads here on TTI from that period to see how bad it could get.)

 

And John Titor/TT0 was likewise never proven to be a fraud. It was an Internet meme posed in the very early days of the World Wide Web. It was just an online game, not a crime. The only disappointing part of the show was John Titor, Inc. copyrighted our posts by publishing them for profit in The Book (A Time Traveler's Tale). I thought that was a bit much. It was done in poor taste but it wasn't a crime.

 

Anyway, sharpen your debating skills. Look at the posts, analyze them, reply. If nothing else it can give you a new skill set.

[Time Travler_0]

Yikes! Easy big fella. "Fraud" is a rather strong word; it is used to describe a certain criminal act. Surely you don't mean that the poster is trying to separate people from their money, right? Whether or not Time Traveler_0 is actually what he claims to be is subject to debate that does not have to devolve to ad hominem attack. We went through that in 2000 through 2003 (look back at the old the threads here on TTI from that period to see how bad it could get.)

 

And John Titor/TT0 was likewise never proven to be a fraud. It was an Internet meme posed in the very early days of the World Wide Web. It was just an online game, not a crime. The only disappointing part of the show was John Titor, Inc. copyrighted our posts by publishing them for profit in The Book (A Time Traveler's Tale). I thought that was a bit much. It was done in poor taste but it wasn't a crime.

 

Anyway, sharpen your debating skills. Look at the posts, analyze them, reply. If nothing else it can give you a new skill set.

Well truly I created a second account just to do this test and to try to find some of the true believers and get their opinion or if they would you the act but yeah I probably wouldn't use fraud for like impersonating or something it was like a social experiment I needed before i came to a conclusion.

[HououinKyouma42]

Yikes! Easy big fella. "Fraud" is a rather strong word; it is used to describe a certain criminal act. Surely you don't mean that the poster is trying to separate people from their money, right? Whether or not Time Traveler_0 is actually what he claims to be is subject to debate that does not have to devolve to ad hominem attack. We went through that in 2000 through 2003 (look back at the old the threads here on TTI from that period to see how bad it could get.)

 

And John Titor/TT0 was likewise never proven to be a fraud. It was an Internet meme posed in the very early days of the World Wide Web. It was just an online game, not a crime. The only disappointing part of the show was John Titor, Inc. copyrighted our posts by publishing them for profit in The Book (A Time Traveler's Tale). I thought that was a bit much. It was done in poor taste but it wasn't a crime.

 

Anyway, sharpen your debating skills. Look at the posts, analyze them, reply. If nothing else it can give you a new skill set.

I am very interested in his book, but I haven't found a way to get hands on it, but what you write looks kind of like you have read it/ or have access to it.

Oh no I'm definitely not a time traveler but I do know that CERN will most likely make time travel

But didn't you said earlyer that you are?

[PaulaJedi]

I am very interested in his book, but I haven't found a way to get hands on it, but what you write looks kind of like you have read it/ or have access to it.

 

But didn't you said earlyer that you are?

 

Titor was solved already with a confession. I'll let you look for it.

 

Yeah, stalkers, I said I'd stay out of it, but I'm tired of lies in the world and propaganda and other falsehoods.

The Habers created Titor. It is now an urban legend. I believed it once, but I cannot ignore the confession that was made

just to fulfill a fantasy. Yeah, I'm in a bad mood today, and nothing I say is personal, but please just study the facts. Anything not in the posts was never mentioned. People are making up wild stories on another forum about how his device was made. How do they know? They don't. They're making it up.

 

Why am I here? I love Time Travel. The urban legend was fun while it lasted. I think the legend should be preserved to teach us a lesson. It is a part of our history now. I just don't recommend getting carried away. There are other true mysteries out there that haven't been solved.

[Cosmo]

Maybe he changed our timeline ...just enough... to kick the can down the road another couple decades

 

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[Time Travler_0]

I am very interested in his book, but I haven't found a way to get hands on it, but what you write looks kind of like you have read it/ or have access to it.

 

But didn't you said earlyer that you are?

I have a pdf on the book here hope this helped it was a hard copy to find basically it has all john titors post and alittle more

cupdf.com_the-time-travel-tale-of-john-titor-5649a23b8ea22.pdf

[Cosmo]

I have a pdf on the book here hope this helped it was a hard copy to find basically it has all john titors post and alittle more

This is outstanding. Do you mind if I add it to the resources section? Been meaning to put something like this of my own together; could release an updated one.

[Time Travler_0]

This is outstanding. Do you mind if I add it to the resources section? Been meaning to put something like this of my own together; could release an updated one.

Sure

[Dizzie]

Titor was solved already with a confession. I'll let you look for it.

 

Yeah, stalkers, I said I'd stay out of it, but I'm tired of lies in the world and propaganda and other falsehoods.

The Habers created Titor. It is now an urban legend. I believed it once, but I cannot ignore the confession that was made

just to fulfill a fantasy. Yeah, I'm in a bad mood today, and nothing I say is personal, but please just study the facts. Anything not in the posts was never mentioned. People are making up wild stories on another forum about how his device was made. How do they know? They don't. They're making it up.

 

Why am I here? I love Time Travel. The urban legend was fun while it lasted. I think the legend should be preserved to teach us a lesson. It is a part of our history now. I just don't recommend getting carried away. There are other true mysteries out there that haven't been solved.

Been thinking about this recently - I thought it had kind of been laid to rest, or at least attempted.

[Time Travler_0]

Been thinking about this recently - I thought it had kind of been laid to rest, or at least attempted.

That's cool if you want to believe that but qouldnt be interesting to think if John Titor was real from another time line not this John Titor that we all now but one that can actually time travel if you think about it too much you come to a conclusion that it's possible but the odds could be low or might be in our favor I mean John Titor predict a war would happen around this time (I think) and look whats happening with Ukraine and Russia I've heard alot of theories and this could possibly lead to WW3 if it gets out of hand but you should know for a fact time travel is definitely possible and the things this John Titor said are pretty accurate but not all we know is true.

 

Side note for true believers: I did alot of research about John Titor and someone saying he made it up. If it is true it's always possible there could be another one, theory they were forced to tell a lie so companies looking to time travel don't get too much attention from which might have already happend (with CERN) I did a pretty big theory about this that I don't feel like listing but basically there is a pretty good chance John Titor's real.

[Mayhem]

This is what ive been thinking lately.

 

It seems like some want to believe it was real, and go around corners to keep the romanticism alive.

 

At times ive wondered if someone at Disney threw around some open ideas on the floor and Haber thought hed have a go at a story. To see if they would take it on for a production, dont forget Universal released BTTF in 1985 so possibly later on Disney might have been looking for something similar to develop.

[Time Travler_0]

This is what ive been thinking lately.

 

It seems like some want to believe it was real, and go around corners to keep the romanticism alive.

 

At times ive wondered if someone at Disney threw around some open ideas on the floor and Haber thought hed have a go at a story. To see if they would take it on for a production, dont forget Universal released BTTF in 1985 so possibly later on Disney might have been looking for something similar to develop.

Interesting theory

[PaulaJedi]

Been thinking about this recently - I thought it had kind of been laid to rest, or at least attempted.

 

It has. I was in a bad mood this morning (lol). But people just discovering the John Titor topic don't know this, yet. I vowed to the lurkers not to interfere, but I broke my promise. Sigh. I just wish there was more truth in the world right now.

[Cosmo]

Titor was solved already with a confession. I'll let you look for it.

I have never seen a confession I would consider legitimate or even worth examining. HUNDREDS of posts here are filled with people claiming responsibility, and hundreds more trying to continue the story. For it to be believed, any "confession" should also include original copies of these:

 

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[GALLERY=media, 9][/GALLERY]

 

[GALLERY=media, 5][/GALLERY]

 

I would also expect this to have been kept intact (after all, it assisted the world's greatest internet LARP):

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[GALLERY=media, 3][/GALLERY]

 

[GALLERY=media, 8][/GALLERY]

 

[GALLERY=media, 11][/GALLERY]

 

If not the device itself, then at least specific information on the components used to create the machine for the photographs taken. Show me someone who has those things and can confirm the secret song with Pamela. At that point I'll have more questions

 

I don't think Titor was a time traveler. Still, someone posted those messages, and the messages posted have resonated with quite a few people. That he claimed to be "from the future" is secondary at this point. What I'd be more interested in is this person's belief structure, and how their mind works. Whoever made those posts is someone I would like to talk to and discuss what's going on today, time traveler or not.

 

If TimeTravel_0 is still reading this site, we would love to continue speaking with you. Even anonymously. I'm not interested in the fantasy, I'm interested in the perspective that created it.

[Dizzie]

Titor was solved already with a confession. I'll let you look for it.

I thought it had kind of been laid to rest, or at least attempted.

I have never seen a confession I would consider legitimate or even worth examining.

Cosmo, maybe you blocked it from your memory for good reason, but this is your thread I was thinking about where everything went off the rails and TTI was temporarily shut down - John Titor's identity revealed to be Morey Haber

I did a pretty big theory about this that I don't feel like listing but basically there is a pretty good chance John Titor's real.

Very convincing! (Not.)

[Cosmo]

Cosmo, maybe you blocked it from your memory for good reason, but this is your thread I was thinking about where everything went off the rails and TTI was temporarily shut down - John Titor's identity revealed to be Morey Haber

TTI was shut down in 2018 because people were using this site to make bomb/shooting threats, and I didn't have time to deal with that kind of thing. Reported that person to law enforcement and took a break. Nothing to do with Titor, I've got kids and a wife and this place is meant for enjoyment, not violent perverts.

 

Anyhow, I remember this video quite well, I actually reached out to Razimus directly to ask if I could feature it on the site at the time. That said, I was hungry for "news" to put on the site in the infancy of my ownership, so jumped on the bandwagon. That's not to say anything in the video isn't true, but the admission is thin and one can draw their own conclusions without me directing it. Where's the machine? How'd they make those documents? What was the secret song? Simply because they're probably/obviously involved doesn't mean they're telling the truth here, either. There's more to be learned.

 

Even then, the mind that created this narrative and the perspective they had on the world at the time is interesting. You don't have to be from 2036 to have an interesting opinion (but it helps).

Edited March 16, 2022 by Cosmo

[Dizzie]

I am very interested in his book, but I haven't found a way to get hands on it, but what you write looks kind of like you have read it/ or have access to it.

Here's the intro page from an eBay auction where someone is trying to sell it for $1,200 lol. Someone actually coughed up $300 for it in this auction Then again, this seller would like to purchase a new car with the proceeds from the sale of the book!

 

via https://www.ebay.com/itm/313801338945:

 

Table of contents for posterity:

 

[Cosmo]

Here's the intro page from an eBay auction where someone is trying to sell it for $1,200 lol. Someone actually coughed up $300 for it in this auction Then again, this seller would like to purchase a new car with the proceeds from the sale of the book!

 

via https://www.ebay.com/itm/313801338945:

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Table of contents for posterity:

 

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Is there commentary in this book, or is it just the posts?

[Dizzie]

TTI was shut down in 2018 because people were using this site to make bomb/shooting threats, and I didn't have time to deal with that kind of thing. Reported that person to law enforcement and took a break. Nothing to do with Titor, I've got kids and a wife and this place is meant for enjoyment, not violent perverts.

 

Anyhow, I remember this video quite well, I actually reached out to Razimus directly to ask if I could feature it on the site at the time. That said, I was hungry for "news" to put on the site in the infancy of my ownership, so jumped on the bandwagon. That's not to say anything in the video isn't true, but the admission is thin and one can draw their own conclusions without me directing it. Where's the machine? How'd they make those documents? What was the secret song? Simply because they're probably/obviously involved doesn't mean they're telling the truth here, either. There's more to be learned.

 

Even then, the mind that created this narrative and the perspective they had on the world at the time is interesting. You don't have to be from 2036 to have an interesting opinion (but it helps).

I would have done the same! While I felt it had context to this conversation, sorry to bring up bad memories. To your earlier point, it wasn't a confession - it was a "debunking" of sorts. I never watched the whole thing, but it did seem like the guy was pushing for a solution with a bit more certainty that the research showed - there was still reasonable doubt.

 

I agree that there is more to learn! While there is nothing wrong with retaining some sense of mystery, it would be cool to learn more about what was behind it and "pull back the curtain". If the original poster simply created a very captivating story that resonated and sprouted legs, it could work to their benefit to come forward, as long as they could provide definitive proof of authorship. Who knows what it could lead to for them? Then again, maybe they just don't care for the publicity.