Dizzie Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Is there commentary in this book, or is it just the posts? I'm unsure! Some Amazon reviews seem to say it's just posts. Goodreads reviews seem to say otherwise. And evidently there was a 2001 edition and an '03 edition per the ebay auction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzie Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 @Cosmo You might be aware of this compilation of posts I saw on the Internet Archive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I agree that there is more to learn! While there is nothing wrong with retaining some sense of mystery, it would be cool to learn more about what was behind it and "pull back the curtain". If the original poster simply created a very captivating story that resonated and sprouted legs, it could work to their benefit to come forward, as long as they could provide definitive proof of authorship. Who knows what it could lead to for them? Then again, maybe they just don't care for the publicity. You inspired me to watch this video live when I do the Twitch stream and see what I think watching it fresh after a few years. I'd LOVE to talk to the original TItor people. I'd even like to get some better photos of the time machine. Imagine high-res photos of that beauty. I'd build a Lego set out of that bad boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 @Cosmo You might be aware of this compilation of posts I saw on the Internet Archive. Bookmarked so I can add it to the resources section. I love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Travler_0 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 Cosmo, maybe you blocked it from your memory for good reason, but this is your thread I was thinking about where everything went off the rails and TTI was temporarily shut down - John Titor's identity revealed to be Morey Haber Very convincing! (Not.) Fair point you can most definitely say that this John titor is not real but if you believe in his theory than you should now out of infinite world lines title time stops there could possible be time travel and a person who was named John titor if we talk about time travel we eventually began to go into theories about parcel universe, parcel (near) world line and of course could add quantum physics to alot of stuff we could discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Travler_0 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 I'm unsure! Some Amazon reviews seem to say it's just posts. Goodreads reviews seem to say otherwise. And evidently there was a 2001 edition and an '03 edition per the ebay auction? I'm not really sure haven't read through all of it but it looks like the book written by the name John Titor just had all post from what I've read so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non sequitur Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Pretty sure it's just full of posts lifted from BBS.. Not even sure if it was done with permissions. Im assuming that anyone wanting to mount a legal challenge ie: copyright infringement COULD (in theory) get access to the whole Titor details. Im not sure how the legal system over there works but here we just drink a lot of Kava, pass-out, and wake three days later not remembering a damn thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Travler_0 Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Pretty sure it's just full of posts lifted from BBS.. Not even sure if it was done with permissions. Im assuming that anyone wanting to mount a legal challenge ie: copyright infringement COULD (in theory) get access to the whole Titor details. Im not sure how the legal system over there works but here we just drink a lot of Kava, pass-out, and wake three days later not remembering a damn thing! He I found another one with all art bell posts including all the other ones. Apparently it's the complete postcomplete-posts-from-art-bells-post-to-post-message-board (1).pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 He I found another one with all art bell posts including all the other ones. Apparently it's the complete post This is outstanding, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Travler_0 Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 This is outstanding, thank you! Your welcome to be honest this time I was actually searching and managed to find one in a library (online) sadly it's like on the other side of the country. For this pdf all I did instead of try doing a deep search and Google it I asked on a redit server and found this I'm not sure if it's the book but I can say it's very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finding timetravler_0 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I have info on John Titor John Titor is and is a real person I know this because I'm John Titor's step son. Really so please inform him to meet me or reply me on this Gmail [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 what is a convergence factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 what is a convergence factor nevermind i found out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Is there commentary in this book, or is it just the posts? Cos, In order to avoid a copyright strike Team Book at the John Titor Foundation wrote the book as a sort of stream of consciousness from the POV of Momma Kay Titor. That way they didn't simply copy & paste our posts into it. Momma Kay's stream of consciousness just happened to be almost direct quotes of our posts. As I said in an earlier post, Raul (MOP) did assert his propriety ownership of the forum and its contents (specifically referring to the Titor posts) so he wasn't kidding around about who owned the posts. Boomer may have invented Titor and may have written his posts but he didn't own them. I'm assuming that you now own them unless Raul retained ownership of the database when you took possession of TTI. I received a free copy of The Book from the John Titor Foundation. Anyone who would pay more than $9.95 would be getting ripped off. THere's no story that can't be gleaned from reading the posts, for free, right here on TTI because we've posted all the threads from TTI, Post-2-Post and Anomalies.net. It is cheaply bound using very low quality paper guaranteed to decay to dust in a decade or so. At one time Rick Donaldson and I did some tracking on the sales of the book on eBay when the ask was $1,200 and the supposed bid was over $300. It very suspiciously appeared that the people who "paid" the $300 were the sellers' sock puppet accounts. They were paying the $300 to themselves less eBay's cut in an attempt to pump the price. Edited June 18, 2022 by Darby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Cos, In order to avoid a copyright strike Team Book at the John Titor Foundation wrote the book as a sort of stream of consciousness from the POV of Momma Kay Titor. That way they didn't simply copy & paste our posts into it. Momma Kay's stream of consciousness just happened to be almost direct quotes of our posts. As I said in an earlier post, Raul (MOP) did assert his propriety ownership of the forum and its contents (specifically referring to the Titor posts) so he wasn't kidding around about who owned the posts. Boomer may have invented Titor and may have written his posts but he didn't own them. I'm assuming that you now own them unless Raul retained ownership of the database when you took possession of TTI. I received a free copy of The Book from the John Titor Foundation. Anyone who would pay more than $9.95 would be getting ripped off. THere's no story that can't be gleaned from reading the posts, for free, right here on TTI because we've posted all the threads from TTI, Post-2-Post and Anomalies.net. It is cheaply bound using very low quality paper guaranteed to decay to dust in a decade or so. At one time Rick Donaldson and I did some tracking on the sales of the book on eBay when the ask was $1,200 and the supposed bid was over $300. It very suspiciously appeared that the people who "paid" the $300 were the sellers' sock puppet accounts. They were paying the $300 to themselves less eBay's cut in an attempt to pump the price. Yeah, that's what I gleaned from the little tidbits I've seen about it. 1200 bucks for a copy of already freely available content is just dumb. But then, it's the internet, and it takes all kinds. Here I am, having spent real money on a time travel forum (not a one-time expense, I can assure you), so I can't throw many rocks from my glass house. Raul sold me everything, though, domains and content and whatnot. One of the domains was john-titor.info, which I let lapse years ago (it was a redirect domain that just pointed back to the main site). I held on to all the others, though. I've had it in my mind for a while to gather the posts into a neatly organized PDF, add some notes throughout to clarify different things, then distribute it as a free eBook, or a cheap one to cover the cost of getting it onto Amazon or something. I never bought TTI to make any real money. I bought it because I love the idea of the legend and the little slice of internet history I got to hang on to (for better or worse, depending on who you ask). I want to be able to do something with the story at some point beyond just distributing the posts, though. Life tends to take priority; moving to Arkansas, for instance. But I'll get to it sooner or later. Many ideas and too much going on all the time to truly focus my efforts. That'll hopefully change quickly, though. I don't mind if other people republish the Titor posts on other sites... It's unavoidable anyhow (it was happening long before I came around), and making a fuss about it is an asshole thing to spend my time pursuing. All I ask is that TTI is given a link or a shoutout and that one doesn't use the content as a money-making endeavor. The posts are here for free. An idea I've had is to integrate the events of the Titor saga into a top-down Zelda-esque RPG of some kind where you happen to fulfill the role that Titor played as part of the overarching story. Titor isn't the focus, but the events you play through mirror the bits we know seen from a different perspective. I bought a couple of domains for that, timetravel.quest and timetravel0.quest, and have enough of the "TTI Expanded Universe" figured out to start working on it. There's a semi-defunct trademark on the John Titor name from someone in Arizona (I think; I haven't bothered to look in a while). I'm not worried about that, TTI is the defacto originator, and it'll never make me any money. It's for fun, sharing weird ideas and keeping my programming knowledge from clouding over. Things are too chaotic trying to balance all the spinning plates one needs to spin in 2022, living a few miles from a big city on the west coast with three kids and both parents working (even though I "retired" last August to be a stay at home dad). It makes me lose track and jump around too much. Moving to the country will slow things down to where I can get this stuff out of my brain and into the world for people to rag on or enjoy as they see fit. I also own lunchladysimulator.com, but that's another story for another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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